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Unless of course they can maintain some sort of x86 compatability.

I think I will hold off on that iMac Pro now. Time to reconsider a PC? This will be the longest I have not upgraded a computer in decades (>4 years old).
 
Would this finally give them a reason to go to macOS 11? It's insane that we're on 10.13, just make it like iOS, have macOS 11 and then a year later macOS 12 and so on.
 
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Apple is slowly moving toward the now abandoned Ubuntu goal of docking the phone and using it as a desktop PC. You folks in the USA have no idea how many people in the world cannot afford both a computer and a smart phone. The demand for this if offered economically would probably be a billion units.

I used to say that whoever successfully developed this would become the next Apple. Maybe it will be apple, because the rest of the tech world is too stupid to figure this out. Apple realizes it has reached peak phone revenue, and is looking for new directions.

Apple now has the capability of adding a GPU to their systems using a doc. There is already a monitor and USB connector on these docks. They only need a slot for docking the phone. You can bet your ass apple has one of these running in a lab.

Apple's handheld chips have had desktop computing power for the last three iterations. The iPhone X has more computing power than the first Cray computer.

Think about it, plug your $300 (or less) phone into a dock with a $100 monitor and a $10 keyboard, connect to the cloud and you have everything wherever you go. If you need graphics, you just buy/rent a more expensive dock. Schools would buy these docks and phones by the millions.
 
All I care about is if I'll be able to play (real) games 5+ years from now when my gaming PC is on it's last legs.

Especially with crazy PC component prices, mainly DRAM and GPU, some say the "Future of Gaming" is in Streaming:


So platform won't matter.

Hence why you see Sony is more into streaming old games rather than backwards compatibility like MS....
 
If Apple is crazy enough they will phase out x86, but if they are not they will co-host both architectures and somehow make bridge between the chipsets.

Anyway there is no way in hell Mac will ever get the prosumer app developers to commit to this. What Apple wants is some sort of UWP that Microsoft is pushing but unlike Microsoft they already have the decent chunk of tablet marker. So they are willing to sacrifice desktop market in order to get even more services on their tablets. That cannot be the case.

Meet your future Photoshop: there is blur tool, there is paintbrush, there is stamp tool. And that's about it. That's exactly how it's gonna go down.

Apple is crazy so I'm would not be surprised if they do it but unless there is some huge financial subsidiary fund reserved for developers on their end this will never work. Just ask Affinity how great their Photo app is selling on iOS, they've invested quite a lot in it and it's not getting anywhere near they hoped it would in terms of sales.
 
Why is it exciting? They need to convince Adobe, Microsoft and other major developers to re-write their desktop apps, or will they just port their iOS apps to the desktop?

The developers are going to need to reprogram their apps anyway. Microsoft is moving their computing to cloud based, off device with ARM processors coming to their lineup. Mac going to ARM is no surprise. It is inevitable. We are moving to an always connected tech world.

Developers will support Mac, especially with Microsoft moving in a similar manner.

The potential far outways the risks. Early adoption will be painful in some ways but will be well worth the growing pains.
 
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I cannot see Apple making this transition and leaving 3rd party devs like Adobe and hundreds of others in the dark. I imagine this would be done in some sort of a seamless fashion with no downtime. Otherwise people would be jumping ship to PCs in droves don't you think?
 
Wow. That would be terrible.

Higher prices, less compatibility, no upgradability, all epoxied together, and will probably require a Courage loan.


Lol. Like the mac pro, or mini, or macbook pro that were stagnant for years through many intel chip revisions?

Gimme a break.

Having had a Powerbook G4 go obsolete after they switched from Powerpc to Intel don't think I'll be buying a Macbook pro or any other mac laptops that might be only good for a year and a half. As much as my son was looking forward to a MBP when he goes to HS in the fall, looks like a windows 10 pc is in his future.
 
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I really feel this is part of Apple's long term plan for VR. Things like Oculus Rift are NOT available on MAC. Apple being Apple, they are going to do VR their way or at least provide the way for others do VR on their system. VR apps to the App store in say 5-7 years?. That time frame will also give time for internet speeds to catch up to make VR experiences that much smoother. I dunnno, just may take..
 
I am not sure why anyone needs to use Windows on a Mac anymore? If you use MS Office it is better than it has ever been on a Mac. Also many other apps in the Windows world are now either on a Mac, web/browser based or have excellent alternatives. Example as a network engineer, I ran a Windows VM on my Mac just for Visio. Then I made the move to OmniGraffle Pro (Better than Visio IMHO) and killed off my VM.

If they do this slow enough then I can easily see most if not all of the Mac software vendors making the move. I have no doubt Omni would do it as they also have excellent iOS apps. Also MS Office is on iOS and porting their Mac version from Intel to something else would probably not be that hard.
Games.
 
I cannot see Apple making this transition and leaving 3rd party devs like Adobe and hundreds of others in the dark. I imagine this would be done in some sort of a seamless fashion with no downtime. Otherwise people would be jumping ship to PCs in droves don't you think?

How do you know that these companies and Apple haven’t already been testing stuff behind the scenes?
 
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Its an operating system from a small startup called Microsoft. That OS has a tiny marketshare of 90%, so its quite understandable that you never heard of them
Yes, but I am sure the number of Mac users using Windows has dwindled to a rounding error. Apple cares about their hardware and OS and everyone else’s third party software. Windows on Mac is on its way out the door.

My office runs on Windows 7 in the cloud. There is a Mac app and I can even run my whole system in a chrome tab if I want. This is where the industry is going.

And didn’t Microsoft just pretty much lay off their Windows division?
 
What will be Apple's excuse for not updating the Macs then?

Being in control of the development of their own in-house designed advanced architecture CPUs/GPUs, there will be no excuses. Count on loads of scalable processing horsepower going forward not being beholden to Intel's incremental improvements.
 
I think iOS is going to be jettisoned very soon. Not for the variants used in the Watch or HomePod (because you don’t need a full-blown OS on those devices), but for TV, iPhones and iPads.

Apples processors have been getting ridiculously powerful lately, challenging Intel at the low end already. iOS has also been getting more and more powerful. Carry these through to the end and soon iOS will be as useful as macOS and running on devices with processors that rival Intel.

When this happens I have to ask what the point is of having two separate (but similar) OSes that are so close together in featuresrunning on two different types of devices that are equally powerful. Seems like a lot of waste/redundancy.


I think we’ll only see macOS in the future and no more iOS. Your iPhone and iPad will run a full version of macOS and the only real difference is the UI on top for interaction. You can bring full-fledged macOS Apps to your iPhone/iPad and previous iOS Apps to your Mac (which is coming). Both App Stores will be merged into a single store.
 
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