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As cool as this sounds, it’s a solution in search of a problem, and just another reason for Apple to hike prices.
Eh? I travel a lot, and often find myself switching to the cellular service via the built in modem in my HP dragonfly.
note: dragonfly is an i7 work issue. The battery life compared with an MacBook is absolutely appalling. If it can make three hours using teams it is doing well. Can’t tell the diff on modem though, it is just too bad.
 
Do you think such MacBooks will be ESIM-only?

I imagine that the provision of a SIM card slot would be relatively expensive and, by then, we can expect ESIMs to be more widespread than now.

Indeed, it would be quite neat if you could grab an installed ESIM from a phone and put it in your MacBook for as long as you need. Whether carriers would like that... (Maybe not if you have only one ESIM - but reasonable for a second ESIM.)
 
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It's probably the licensing cost. Apple complained that Qualcomm charges a percentage of the device price. If they complain about that on the iPhone, I imagine they really wouldn't want to pay the same percentage on a $4000 laptop.

With their own chip, they only have to pay for manufacturing and patents.
But didn't laptops used to have slots for a BYO cellular thingy? What happened to that? Took up too much space? But seems worth it for a lot of people, but maybe not enough people since hotspot is an option. I’m personally not looking to add another cellular line.
 
I hope they strap a massive battery to it. Cellular crushes my iPad Pro battery like nothing else.
 
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Very overdue.

Also we need to have multi-device data plans that use the same single bill and share the same data pool. I don't know why we haven't evolved to that yet.
That'd probably be ideal for consumers, but comm companies are making a lot of money with separate data lines, so probably no motivation to change.
 
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Not sure why a modem needs to be on the SoC. That will not bring any speed improvements and will make it impossible to replace a broken modem.

And charge us more for hardware? No thanks.

What’s next Apple? Going to add an Ethernet port?
Yeah if it’s built into the SoC, does that mean it’s not an option? People will get it (and pay for it) whether or not they need it?
I guess you could choose a cellular version of each ASi SoC, but seems like it adds a lot more SKUs for Apple.
 
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Never understood why laptops didn’t have a mobile chip for the last 10+ years. Surely if it can fit in an Apple Watch, it could fit in a laptop
If you mean a modem then ThinkPad's have had them as an option for over 15 years and I had them on a few Sony Vaio's I bought back in the day. Most enterprise focused PC manufactures have had them as an option for well over a decade - it's nothing new.
 
WOW. 2028?? That long?

I bet all the new ARM snapdragon windows laptops will all come with a built in 5G modem. As early as 2024

It does not surprise me. How long Apple is also taking for simple OLED screens for the MacBooks.
 
WOW. 2028?? That long?

I bet all the new ARM snapdragon windows laptops will all come with a built in 5G modem. As early as 2024
That's exactly what is happening:


Certainly impressive. The only issue is support for Windows Arm apps & the Windows OS itself. However, that's what Windows 12 will solve.
 
iPad could have cellular service a decade ago. How hard is that for MacBooks?
 
Having no wifi tends to coincide with not being able to charge.
Absurd. Myopic.

There are...

Vast swaths of the US where a lack of broadband is a serious issue.

Other countries where public wifi is rare because cellular plans are regulated like utilities, 500GB on 5G is sub-$20/mo, and everybody tethers.

Travel hubs with terrible and/or extortionate wifi.

Field research/production situations with generators and power banks.
 
Yep. Obviously. It would add a lot of value even if it wasn't the most advanced. A hot spot is always the last possible option in a pinch. A hot spot is never a good option.
Minimal if any value and will add to your monthly mobile phone bill. Hotspot is automatic and as fast as a 5G in real world speeds not the hypothetical max speeds.
 
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Personal hotspot should be good enough for most people though.
No! I don’t want to have to lug my iPhone around everywhere, worry about it being charged, fiddle with the settings, occasionally have to restart this or that, etc. I used to work on an iPad just for portability and built-in 5G, but missed the full functionality of a Mac. I can’t wait for Apple to finally offer cellular Macs.
 
Personal hotspot should be good enough for most people though.
Definitely.

Mind you, I think it’s a great idea to give customers the option, just like the cellular iPads, and it should have been implemented earlier (perhaps Qualcomm’s royalties were a problem), but I totally agree that using the iPhone hot-spot is the most convenient solution for many people, myself included.

When I bought my iPad Pro, I thought about getting the cellular model because I use it a lot outside my home, and I refuse to connect to public WiFis for security reasons. But then I was able to see how easy is to content my iPad to my iPhone. And when I had an iPhone 8, maybe that was a decent hit for the battery, because Intel modem and such. But now with the SE 3, with its very efficient 5G Qualcomm modem, using the iPhone as my personal hot-spot is very, very convenient.
 
I have been wondering for a while, why they haven't added 5G to the laptops. Is it cost, space or power requirements? But when they do, I will upgrade!
This^. I switched to using a 12.9“ iPad Pro because I wanted cellular on my “laptop” device, primarily to avoid having to not just tether my iPhone and power it while using it as a hotspot, but at one point my cellular plan had a max number of GB’s I could use for hotspot use. I love the fact that I can pull out my iPad Pro at any point during the day (while on the road) and just use it, not having to get my iPhone out as well.
 
Personal hotspot should be good enough for most people though.
Most but not all. I probably wouldn't spend extra on dedicated wireless myself, but I could see company-owned laptops being spec'ed with wireless modems so there's a simple and secure way to stay connected without going through an employee's personal device.
 
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Also we need to have multi-device data plans that use the same single bill and share the same data pool. I don't know why we haven't evolved to that yet.
Not for the first time, I wish Apple had bought up a cell provider at some point just to tie everything together.
 
I am baffled with Apple taking this long to design/build it's own 5G cellular chip when Chinese chip company SMIC/Huawai already build it and in use in phones.
 
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