By 2028 won't the satellite systems like Space X and others be available? Will people even want a MBP with cellular connectivity?
Many carriers impose data caps on all "Unlimited" plans (Verizon laptop data plan is 30GB of fast data then it slows to unlimited unusable speeds).For occasional work yes, but many carriers impose data caps on hotspots, whereas a dedicated modem for a laptop could have unlimited data. A photographer working in the field you could easily blow through a hot spot data cap in no time.
They would have to give Qualcomm a percentage of every machine sold with their cellular chip. It’s why iPads and Apple Watch with cellular have a price bumpI have been wondering for a while, why they haven't added 5G to the laptops. Is it cost, space or power requirements? But when they do, I will upgrade!
Wifi (public or private) can be connected to the internet via a 5G modem. Maybe that isn’t common in the US?Vast swaths of the US where a lack of broadband is a serious issue.
I didn’t say that cases where you have power but no wifi don’t exist. I meant to say that cases where you have neither (which in my personal, non-US experience are the vast majority) are common enough to warrant cellular support in MacBooks.Other countries where public wifi is rare because cellular plans are regulated like utilities, 500GB on 5G is sub-$20/mo, and everybody tethers.
Travel hubs with terrible and/or extortionate wifi.
Field research/production situations with generators and power banks.
I can see Apple eventually creating their own wireless network. It’s just a matter of time.
You are in the very, very (very) small minority.Eh? I travel a lot, and often find myself switching to the cellular service via the built in modem in my HP dragonfly.
note: dragonfly is an i7 work issue. The battery life compared with an MacBook is absolutely appalling. If it can make three hours using teams it is doing well. Can’t tell the diff on modem though, it is just too bad.
And 16gb of minimum ram?? Please… please…
Apple eventually plans to build its own custom modem into cellular MacBook models that could arrive in 2028 at the earliest, according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman.
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Apple has reportedly been working on its own modem since 2018, as it seeks to move away from Qualcomm's component currently used in iPhones. The timeframe for launching the modem has slipped several times and is now expected to be ready around 2026, and Gurman now hears that Apple has plans for the chip appearing in other Apple devices further down the line.
Writing in his latest Power On newsletter, Gurman says that Apple's custom technology aspirations include integrating an in-house modem into its system-on-a-chip (SoC), which would eventually see the launch of MacBooks with built-in cellular connectivity.
Gurman says Apple will "probably need two or three additional years to get that chip inside cellular versions of the Apple Watch and iPad – and the Mac, once the part is integrated into the company's system-on-a-chip."
Apple has explored the possibility of developing MacBooks with cellular connectivity in the past. Indeed, the company reportedly considered launching a MacBook Air with 3G connectivity, but former CEO Steve Jobs said in 2008 that Apple decided against it, since it would take up too much room in the case. An integrated SoC would solve that problem.
Gurman's latest newsletter also said some of Apple's other ongoing in-house chip projects include camera sensors, batteries, a combined Wi-Fi and Bluetooth chip that will eventually replace parts from Broadcom, Micro-LED displays for Apple devices, and a non-invasive glucose monitoring system.
Article Link: Apple Plans to Equip MacBooks With In-House Cellular Modems
I guess I don't understand the aversion to using the hotspot that I already pay for in lieu of adding yet another entire cellular line. The process to connect to my iPhone hotspot is exactly the same as connecting to a wifi network.About time. I think in 8-10 years the average consumer will think it ridiculous to use a hotspot when using a laptop computer. I could never figure out why this is just now happening - it's been present in tablets for over a decade.
Where is the iPhone during this time? Just connect away, the phone doesn't care if it's in a bag or something.I love the fact that I can pull out my iPad Pro at any point during the day (while on the road) and just use it, not having to get my iPhone out as well.
A broken modem? Like you may get a broken GPU or Neural Engine?Not sure why a modem needs to be on the SoC. That will not bring any speed improvements and will make it impossible to replace a broken modem.
I use and hate the hotspot feature - why drain two devices when you can just drain 1.IMO if they haven't done it yet, they won't.
They missed out on 20 years of being able to offer commercial users the ability to use Macs instead of PC's in the mobile terminal/workstation space that isn't reliant on a phone or anything else.
I use and love my hotspot features of my iPhone, but it's main downfall is that it goes to "sleep" very quickly when unused, and you have to physically toggle on/off.
completely agree!I use and hate the hotspot feature - why drain two devices when you can just drain 1.
Because Apple is terrible with RF design. Look at their problems with Bluetooth and WiFi.My only question is: how did this not happen already like 10 years ago?
Personal hotspot should be good enough for most people though.
Won’t most people just use a Hotspot on their phone? Paying for an extra data line doesn’t sound ideal.
The new version from Apple will only have the same range as WiFi. But at that range it will work better than any other Cellular modem every created.Aren't cellular modems primarily for outside the house?
eSIM only likely in the US.Do you think such MacBooks will be ESIM-only?
I imagine that the provision of a SIM card slot would be relatively expensive and, by then, we can expect ESIMs to be more widespread than now.
Indeed, it would be quite neat if you could grab an installed ESIM from a phone and put it in your MacBook for as long as you need. Whether carriers would like that... (Maybe not if you have only one ESIM - but reasonable for a second ESIM.)