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Apple Plans to Repurpose Mesa, Arizona Sapphire Plant to Preserve Jobs
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It's awsome, too bad more companies won't do it though. Gotta slob the shareholder knob all the time now. I miss the good old days when employees and the local communities came FIRST and the Wall Street Neanderthals came a distant third. That's how it should be.
Apple never called off the deal. GTA filed for bankruptcy (Chapter 11) and their CEO and possibly other execs made money by selling their stock before the announcement. Apple was taken by surprise when it was announced. Also Apple owned the building. They financed or loaned the money to GTA to build their facility in Arizona. Apple has said they are NOT interested in going into the sapphire business, but rather buying their supplies from 3rd parties. GTA would've been their almost exclusive sapphire partner had GTA produced a sapphire to the quality of Apple's standards. The product GTA produced didn't pass the quality test for Apple. GTA went into a deal biting off more than they could chew. They schmoozed Apple into thinking they, GTA, could produce high quality sapphire. All GTA was good at up to this point was making the ovens and equipment to produce the glass. So no it's not like what MS did. Apple never bought out GTA, they owned the facility as they paid for it, GTA is still a company that went back to what they originally started as, making the equipment for sapphire production.
Your looking through rose coloured glasses. Do you know this? Its what Apple said so its true? Don't state your opinion as fact, thats all I can say. And I am an Apple fan.
Nice to see a Apple step up here and try to repurpose the Mesa facility. I wonder just how big this place actually is? Maybe it could suffice to manufacture smaller individual components, much like Apple and its stateside suppliers have already been doing at various domestic facilities for the iPhone, iPad and Mac product lines?
http://iphone.appleinsider.com/arti..._apples_supply_chain_increasing_us_production
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But it is true. That's what's been stated in the press from both sides. Not sure what you're getting at?
http://iphone.appleinsider.com/arti..._apples_supply_chain_increasing_us_production
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But it is true. That's what's been stated in the press from both sides. Not sure what you're getting at?
What I believe is that the relationship was not healthy from the start and if something does not start well it will not end well and my impression is that more than propaganda Apple is doing a quiet "mea culpa". In other words, it could have been avoided.
I think the nMP and the way it was designed (with the thermal core) and manufactured is very impressive engineering. I don't consider it to be a gimmick at all. You can be critical of the form factor and still be impressed by the engineering (which many were when it was announced).
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Curious when Apple took over GT Advanced? I must have missed that.
If you understand the causes of the lack of quality (Apple's choices having seized operational control), and the post-processing problems that had nothing to do with GTAT, and the manically punitive contract terms, Apple's fault would be evident but fanboys generally have a problem with impartiality.
Sounds like it was Apple's plan all along, from reading up on the whole story. Apple forces GT to make rushed decisions and then sets up the stage for their demise.
I wonder though. Is it going to cost Apple less with this strategy? Perhaps they wanted to set up a manufacturing/assembly plant there in the first place but figured that it'd be cheaper to get a company to build the buildings and have the city put up the power plants and then BOOM -- convert it all.
Nice move Apple. I'm impressed. A little more and you'll be wearing the same perfume that Samsung wears.
I wonder though. Is it going to cost Apple less with this strategy? Perhaps they wanted to set up a manufacturing/assembly plant there in the first place but figured that it'd be cheaper to get a company to build the buildings and have the city put up the power plants and then BOOM -- convert it all.
Nice move Apple. I'm impressed. A little more and you'll be wearing the same perfume that Samsung wears.
I don't think this was the intended outcome by any parties beforehand. GTA agreed to a contract they probably shouldn't have as the payoff was too good to dismiss if they could fulfill. Apple, for whatever reason, drove an especially hard bargain.
The real issue is when things started not working out. We simply aren't privy to who was responsible for missing targets, and then failing to find a way to negotiate new terms. There might be mal intent, simple incompetence, or just over promising.
The losers sound like the people of Mesa who fronted much of the utility and build out to lure the plant.
I don't put any stock in Apple's commitment to Mesa. Such vague language has to simply be PR because they don't have any such plans at the moment. Maybe they will find a way to keep the plant, we'll have to see.
The real issue is when things started not working out. We simply aren't privy to who was responsible for missing targets, and then failing to find a way to negotiate new terms. There might be mal intent, simple incompetence, or just over promising.
The losers sound like the people of Mesa who fronted much of the utility and build out to lure the plant.
I don't put any stock in Apple's commitment to Mesa. Such vague language has to simply be PR because they don't have any such plans at the moment. Maybe they will find a way to keep the plant, we'll have to see.
Sorry, but that's a Poisoning the Well fallacy.
Surely you don't have to rely on debate tricks to support your stance?
Unless of course Apple hasn't taken over the company & you literally have NO idea what you're talking about.
That seems like another viable option. =P
Lol, I don't mean to be a jerk...
Actually, had Apple done that... your comment would be valid. Just had to bust your chops a little for posting without reading the article!!!! Hope you realize it's in jest & not meant maliciously.
Nope. Jobs has been cryogenically frozen all this time and this facility will be converted to either bring him back to life when a cure is found for his cancer or to clone him. Embalming is NOT an option.
There is nothing political about what he is saying. He's speaking the truth and pointing out what the terms really do mean. They are very specific and regulated terms that are relevant to the discussion and it appears that you are the one that doesn't understand that and he is trying to clarify this rather important point to you.
Assembled in the USA is good. Made in the USA is better. There is a difference.
Supernovas?
Please don't bring in space statements. Mesa can start by manufacturing Apple's designer watches. Later, they can expand to Apple's designer footware, couture lines, cosmetics.....
Umm. No. If the contract was as "punitive" as you state it would have been voided by the court as GT asked. And my original post is as an atty, not a "fanboy" as you put it. Funny, how around here anyone that supports an Apple action is labeled a "fanboy" regardless of the context, and only those who oppose Apple are "impartial."
Umm. No. If the contract was as "punitive" as you state it would have been voided by the court as GT asked. And my original post is as an atty, not a "fanboy" as you put it. Funny, how around here anyone that supports an Apple action is labeled a "fanboy" regardless of the context, and only those who oppose Apple are "impartial."
That's pretty much how it works anywhere on the internet. Anytime you choose Apple, you are an "iSheep". Anytime you choose anything but Apple, you are a well informed consumer making the best decision for yourself.
Honest question: do people really believe these stories? Apple pushes GT to build new plants they know they can't afford, then slyly works into the agreement that Apple owns the facility if the deal falls through. It's blatantly obvious Apple had no intentions of working with GT ever; they basically stole their technology to create Sapphire and now people see Apple as "the good people" saving jobs. I'm not saying it wasn't smart on Apple's part, they're kings of business, but stop painting them as some savior when they purposely ruined GT.
Exactly. All the debt is discharged by the previous company and Apple gets everything for pennies on the dollar while being praised for 'preserving jobs'.