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Do you use Apple or Google Maps for navigation when driving ? I mean, paper maps have been used for decades and there are signs all over the place to help people get to their location.
Apples and oranges. You can safely slow down and use your eyes to use an airport's built-in wayfinding systems -- navigating in a car leaves a whole lot less margin of error when you're hurtling down a road at 60mph surrounded by traffic. When driving, audible turn-by-turn directions are infinitely safer than peering at a map or hunting for road signs, but not so necessary walking through an airport.
 
I'm sorry but if you need your iPhone to navigate the interior of an airport...you are just useless and sad. There are things called signs that have worked for hundreds of years. If people looked away from their phones for five minutes they might learn how to move from room to room.

And don't bother telling me Airports are hard to navigate...I've been to many Airports all over the world and in the US. I've never had a problem finding my way. They are not hay mazes.
Why are you so mad about someone besides you, using indoor navigation? You don't need it so it's useless to everyone? Jeez get over yourself
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Why are you so mad about someone besides you, using indoor navigation? You don't need it so it's useless to everyone? Jeez get over yourself
Lol signs in airports for hundreds of years. There were signs in airports before there were even airports.
 
How is it they can get an exemption? And seriously, who needs "interior maps"? Buildings have signs and floor plans. IMO, people walking and texting or mapping are as hazardous as texting drivers.

Until I started using interior maps, I was unaware how beneficial they can be. Especially true for large complexes, stations, and similar locations. Far simpler than finding a map display.
 
LOL. People are just gonna use Google Maps. When are you gonna admit that Apple?

Users want to use what they want, it's rude to force feed them to use your sub-par maps.

#GoogleMapsDefault2017
 
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What's shocking is that Apple has better Updated satellite photos in some areas I travel, more accurate Traffic, and better directions in some cases. I am really starting to see the attention they are putting into their maps.

They still have a long ways to go, but the attention is great to see, and noticeable.

It is good to see the improvement - I only play with AMaps periodically. What I do find painfully poor is the map search results. That could really use improving.
 
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It would be nice if Apple just buys the Waze app, and replace Apple Maps with it. At least for driving, Waze is so much better than Apple Maps.

Google bought Waze years ago, lol.

Google bought waze couple years back.

Not sure whether Google would be willing to sell Waze to Apple:

"In June 2013, Google bought Waze for $1.1 billion."

Google owns Waze :p

I agree a 100% that at the moment Waze is a clear leader for driving. Unfortunately, it has already been bought by Google. Apple could have snapped it a while ago, but somehow decided it did not make sense. A missed opportunity.

Google owns waze.

Just to be clear, who owns Waze?

All jokes aside, even though Google owns Waze, it doesn't mean Apple can't buy it. Now, it may not be likely Google will sell, but they could.
 
Crazy idea to have internal spaces of large buildings and structures like airports or malls mapped out to make things simpler, kind of like crazy ideas to start cars without having to put a key into them, or change the channel on a TV set without getting up.

Imagine you go into a building and read the directory and follow the easy to read and follow signs, while your phone says no service or only gives you one bar, due to all the concrete, bricks and metal framing in buildings.

And, since nobody has their hands full with luggage in airports while traveling, it's just better to pull out and hold a phone.

Even more crazy to assume or ask people to read signs, we totally agree!

Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not any simpler!
 
Imagine you go into a building and read the directory and follow the easy to read and follow signs, while your phone says no service or only gives you one bar, due to all the concrete, bricks and metal framing in buildings.

And, since nobody has their hands full with luggage in airports while traveling, it's just better to pull out and hold a phone.

Even more crazy to assume or ask people to read signs, we totally agree!

Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not any simpler!
Imagine you go into a building and the directory and signs are missing here and there or are outdated and aren't all that helpful. Imagine that what you are looking for is perhaps not something that is on most signs because it's not important enough or perhaps is new or recently changed. Imagine you are in another country and don't really know the language. Imagine you lookup the building information prior to leaving for the building or while you are on the way to the building (let's say you are taking public transportation or something like that). Quite a bit to imagine--much of it based on what happens quite a bit in reality--beyond just a small limited set of things.
 
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Actually they are behind in both and playing catch up now
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He isn't a sheep that will follow Apple off a cliff, it's sad to see people support Apple even when they do things wrong.
Just to be clear, who owns Waze?

All jokes aside, even though Google owns Waze, it doesn't mean Apple can't buy it. Now, it may not be likely Google will sell, but they could.
Well yea theoretically but google already use Waze reports in their google maps app. So HIGHLY unlikely.

From what I read google lets Waze run independently.
 
Nope. It's just missing a few things that I like from google maps - like lane alerts and biking directions. Besides that, Apple maps is fully usable and better than Google maps aesthetically speaking. It's just a smoother and better experience.

I would consider it good versus 'barely good'. It's a couple features away from being head to head with Google.
Maybe in DC.
 
Apple wants to fly drones around to do things like examine street signs, track changes to roads and monitor if areas are under construction
[...]
According to current rules, Apple's drone fleet would be restricted from flying over people and buildings
Doesn't this seem like a bit of a problem?
 
Except that they didn't of course. Google upped their demands significantly in return of implementing new features like turn-by-turn directions and vector-based maps.

I just listed the two things that Google wanted in return for navigation. Branding and Latitude. Hardly significant.

Do you know of any other?

I think Apple simply no longer wanted to be in a position where someone else could dictate any terms to them. Also, Apple decided to try to get into Google market areas because of Jobs' "thermonuclear war" kick.

Thus Apple decided to make their own ad network, maps, etc. The only thing missing is Apple trying to come up with their own search engine, although it looks like they took Microsoft's money to set Siri's default to Bing.
 
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I just listed the two things that Google wanted in return for navigation. Branding and Latitude. Hardly significant.

Do you know of any other?

I think Apple simply no longer wanted to be in a position where someone else could dictate any terms to them. Also, Apple decided to try to get into Google market areas because of Jobs' "thermonuclear war" kick. Thus Apple decided to make their own ad network, maps, etc. The only thing missing is Apple trying to come up with their own search engine, although it looks like they took Microsoft's money to set Siri's default to Bing.
Apple rightfully so got an enormous amount of back lash,

Imagine you update your phone and find suddenly you can't look up transit anymore?
I remember how furious people were here in NYC.

Apple took away google maps and replaced it with a broken piece of crap. It ended up getting Scott Forstall fired.
 
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It's very simple. Maps are very important to a lot of different and popular smartphone/tablet/pc functions. If Apple leaves the field to Google, all those functions become hostage to whatever Google feels like doing with their IOS map app. The whole reason Apple developed Maps in the first place was because Google wasn't keeping its iOS app as up-to-date as the Android version. That could become a massive competitive DIS-advantage to Apple, hence Apple Maps.


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Because Google is going to stop working on their Maps?

Why on earth is Apple still pouring so much money into Apple Maps? What is the end game? It's not one of their primary products, Google will have an advantage for the forseeable future, and even diehard Apple fans like me prefer Google Maps over Apple Maps.

It's not going to help you sell products, it's not going to generate significant revenue. It's just a waste of time and money.

Stop, and put the money elsewhere.
 
As long as people complain about default apps taking up space when they cannot hide them but don't complain anymore about that space when they can hide them, I cannot take their criticism seriously. In fact, I rather feel the need to point that they are irrational and are misinforming others and thus harming others.
Space is not the issue here but having an annoying useless program like Apple Maps being there and popping up every time I want to use it's alternative is. Being able to delete / hide / nuke whatever to get rid of it is better than nothing.
 
Why are you so mad about someone besides you, using indoor navigation? You don't need it so it's useless to everyone? Jeez get over yourself
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Lol signs in airports for hundreds of years. There were signs in airports before there were even airports.
You have some reading issues. I did not say there were signs in airports for hundreds of years, I said signs have been around for hundreds of years.
 
I'm sorry but if you need your iPhone to navigate the interior of an airport...you are just useless and sad. There are things called signs that have worked for hundreds of years. If people looked away from their phones for five minutes they might learn how to move from room to room.

And don't bother telling me Airports are hard to navigate...I've been to many Airports all over the world and in the US. I've never had a problem finding my way. They are not hay mazes.

I agree and disagree. I agree that many airports (and like) try their best to have good signs/symbols to help navigation. And they general work.

I disagree at the same time.. because there are many languages and situations (eg, stores) where signs don't work that well. If you are Japanese and travelling in Egypt (or vice versa). Most signage is in the local language plus English, combined with some symbols to help non-English speakers. I'm not referring to just airports.

Just like signs for streets can be confusing.... signs in airports, terminals, malls can be confusing too. Having a device could be helpful.
 
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