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Apple is putting together a team of robotics and data-collection experts who will use drones, and "new indoor navigation features," to bolster and further improve the quality of Apple Maps. The move is said to be positioned as a method to catch up with Google, the longtime leader in the mapping field (via Bloomberg).

The drones will be able to capture and update Apple Maps at a far quicker rate than Apple's collection of GPS data-collecting minivans, which began appearing in the United States in early 2015.

In addition, a new feature is said to be coming to Maps that will let users view the insides of buildings, thanks to its Indoor.io and WifiSLAM acquisitions, and overall improvements will be made to navigation within the app.
According to documents gathered by Bloomberg News, Apple already filed for an exemption from the Federal Aviation Administration to be able to fly drones for commercial purposes, and was granted approval to "operate an unmanned aircraft system to conduct data collection, photography, and videography." According to current rules, Apple's drone fleet would be restricted from flying over people and buildings, would be designated to operate only in daytime, and could only be flown by licensed pilots.

One of the pilots is said to have already been hired from Amazon's fledgling Prime Air program, and they will join the Apple Maps drone team at its base in Seattle, Washington. The indoor mapping initiative is said to be moving forward at the same pace as the drone fleet, with Apple's hope being to help customers navigate airports "and other high-traffic buildings like museums" using their iPhones. This feature, along with a Maps update that will provide users "better guidance for changing lanes while driving," is believed to launch next year.

Article Link: Apple Plans to Use Data-Collecting Drones in Order to 'Catch Up' With Google Maps
feelings of "oh good" and paranoid all at the same time
 
I'm sorry but if you need your iPhone to navigate the interior of an airport...you are just useless and sad. There are things called signs that have worked for hundreds of years. If people looked away from their phones for five minutes they might learn how to move from room to room.
The last airport that I went to made it quite difficult to find the airline that I was looking for. No signs whatsoever. Walk around, ask some employee who has no idea, until you find it. And that with two floors.
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And before signs people used the stars. Thank goodness I and the rest of the unwashed masses have your guidance.
Navigating by stars doesn't work well in a shopping mall :-(
 
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Dear Tim Cook,

Please update your satellite map. It's 4 years behind. We don't need another Apple Store opening so please make this top priority.

Sincerely,

US cities
 
Let's face it, even hardcore Apple Map fans will use Google Maps for the simple fact that they have street view.

If Apple can replicate this feature through drones, in a timely and accurate manner, it'll be a horserace.
 
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Just allow users to choose their own default map service and *blam*, you just caught up. Then the maps team could be reassigned to making more ports disappear.
 
I'm sorry but if you need your iPhone to navigate the interior of an airport...you are just useless and sad. There are things called signs that have worked for hundreds of years. If people looked away from their phones for five minutes they might learn how to move from room to room.

There are lots of people who cannot and will not ever learn to read a map. Some people have no sense of direction, and a map would do them no good anyway.(*)

-- Not just airports:

As for interior mapping, one major usage will likely be for shopping malls. Many map makers already include interior maps for those.

However, those companies that Apple bought (some of which started with Android devices) are really about mapping non-public spaces, such as office buildings. So, for example, someone could get directions directly to a new doctor's office on a certain floor. (My wife could use such help a lot lately.)

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(*) I've noticed that one of the major differences with various people is what kind of directions they need. Some like coordinate directions such as "go 2 miles north on highway 5, then go east on route 100".

Others need visual directions, like "go up highway 5 until you see a Burger King on your right, then turn right there". What's amazing to me is that no major navigation provider has yet to cater to the latter type. (There was a tiny company that used to sell such directions.)
 
It would be nice if Apple just buys the Waze app, and replace Apple Maps with it. At least for driving, Waze is so much better than Apple Maps.

I agree a 100% that at the moment Waze is a clear leader for driving. Unfortunately, it has already been bought by Google. Apple could have snapped it a while ago, but somehow decided it did not make sense. A missed opportunity.
 
It would be nice if Apple just buys the Waze app, and replace Apple Maps with it. At least for driving, Waze is so much better than Apple Maps.

Waze is only good for people who are interested in saving a few minutes by driving through residential streets. Google bought Waze years ago, but they were smart enough to know that it wasn't good for masses, so they kept it apart from Google Maps.

I want to share a few news articles about Waze that clearly show that Waze is not good for mass usage.

How directions on the Waze app led to death in Brazil’s favelas
If you use Waze, hackers can stalk you
Is Google’s Waze app making traffic worse?
 
Because Google is going to stop working on their Maps?

Why on earth is Apple still pouring so much money into Apple Maps? What is the end game? It's not one of their primary products, Google will have an advantage for the forseeable future, and even diehard Apple fans like me prefer Google Maps over Apple Maps.

It's not going to help you sell products, it's not going to generate significant revenue. It's just a waste of time and money.

Stop, and put the money elsewhere.
This is just stupid and ignorant. The whole reason Apple built their own Maps app is because Google was deliberately withholding features from their iOS app to give Android an advantage. Google only released a full featured iOS app after Apple built Maps and Google lost access to all of that data. Why would Apple go back to relying on a rival company for one of the most used features of their product? If Apple shut down Maps, what's preventing Google from stripping features out of their iOS app again to try to push people to Android?
 
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So, Apple should have bended over backwards and given in to Google's demand to more access to user data?

What demand was that?

What is known is that Google wanted a couple of things:

1. Branding on their maps (they used to say "Google" in the corner but Apple apparently wanted that gone).

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2. The ability to offer their Google Latitude service. That's the one which let users opt into sharing their location (general or specific) with friends and family. However, as is well known, Apple dislikes any competition with their own core services, and Family Sharing and Location came out in iOS 8.

It's not like Apple is really against anyone making money from user info. Heck, for a decade Apple has made over a billion dollars a year, sharing in Google Search ad revenue, in return for letting Google be the default search engine. Sometimes access to Apple customers is indeed a product to be sold.
 
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fixed that for you
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minivans are for mapping, user data is for traffic.
Maps already is good enough, it just need the next step
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I suppose it would be, if there were any actual customers who cared about these things.

It's a tech blog thing. Not a real world thing. In the real world people get where they're going with Maps, and don't know what bezels are.
I'm a customer and care about all those things.

If people really don't care about these things, then sales should reflect it...right?
 
Cue the apple map apologists... Apple maps sucks compared to the competition, not sure why Apple is hell bent on making their own but maybe one day it will be useable. Last time I commented how bad the maps were people replied that not only was I wrong, but they're perfect. :rolleyes:
 
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I'm sorry but if you need your iPhone to navigate the interior of an airport...you are just useless and sad. There are things called signs that have worked for hundreds of years. If people looked away from their phones for five minutes they might learn how to move from room to room.

And don't bother telling me Airports are hard to navigate...I've been to many Airports all over the world and in the US. I've never had a problem finding my way. They are not hay mazes.
Not gates. But perhaps for shops in different terminals etc...?
 
Nope. its barely good atm.

Nope. It's just missing a few things that I like from google maps - like lane alerts and biking directions. Besides that, Apple maps is fully usable and better than Google maps aesthetically speaking. It's just a smoother and better experience.

I would consider it good versus 'barely good'. It's a couple features away from being head to head with Google.
 
I moved to a small town of 28,000 people 6 months ago, lots of cafes and restaurants. I have had to submit 100+ changes to Apple Maps as the data was so bad, loads of closed businesses still showing, wrong location by a mile, no opening hours or no website, they use Yelp and Trip Advisor for this data, its lousy. The reason I'm helping is I hired a car and it had CarPlay, amazing experience but if Maps are so lousy its pointless.
 
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Apple could use a few human editors. When I find an error in Google Maps, I report it. Soon after, Google updates and let's me know, "you are right!".

I have reported several errors to Maps and Apple never makes the change. Among them, Apple insists that I live in a town not near me, rather than my town and postal address. I have sent Apple numerous corrections including copies of addresses mail to no avail. Delivery people have trouble finding me. So I have stopped using Maps and have warned delivery people and visitors not to use it. But my photos are still identified by Apple with the wrong town.

Go away Apple Maps.
 
What demand was that?

What is known is that Google wanted a couple of things:

1. Branding on their maps (they used to say "Google" in the corner but Apple apparently wanted that gone).

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2. The ability to offer their Google Latitude service. That's the one which let users opt into sharing their location (general or specific) with friends and family. However, as is well known, Apple dislikes any competition with their own core services, and Family Sharing and Location came out in iOS 8.

It's not like Apple is really against anyone making money from user info. Heck, for a decade Apple has made over a billion dollars a year, sharing in Google Search ad revenue, in return for letting Google be the default search engine. Sometimes access to Apple customers is indeed a product to be sold.
Anyone using a web search in a browser is giving the search provider information (how much depends on the search provider and the technical means, starting with cookies, that are used). Any web page has the same access and the same technical tools available to them. Providing web services via an app (as the Maps app in iOS does) can be much more restrictive in regards to what information the web services provider has access to.

There is a huge difference between making something the default (search) URL in a browser and letting non-web-browser apps give out the same amount of information (or even more) than what a browser would. You cannot restrict a web browser too much without inhibiting a lot of websites. A web browser is a general purpose tool that is the fallback solution if no other options exist to access a given web service. You can restrict things much, much more within an app that only has to provide a very narrow amount of information.
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They were for the first few years not sure why no one was complaining then
Except that they didn't of course. Google upped their demands significantly in return of implementing new features like turn-by-turn directions and vector-based maps.
 
Delete / Hide whatever.....Out of sight, out of mind :p
As long as people complain about default apps taking up space when they cannot hide them but don't complain anymore about that space when they can hide them, I cannot take their criticism seriously. In fact, I rather feel the need to point that they are irrational and are misinforming others and thus harming others.
 
Apple's map UI with Google's data would be a nice merge. Google's map UI has become a complete FUBAR on both their web and native apps.
Couldn't agree more. Maps has a pretty streamlined and intuitive interface, for the most part, while Google Maps more than ever just feels like another ad platform (which of course it is).
 
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