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I think most reviewers usually respond negatively as they're the most vocal, but it would be true for all companies.
 
Lol

Siri still sucks. And maps is one of many stock apps I lob into a folder

[?] I Bug anyone? MacOS Sierra root bug?

Dec2 boot loop bug? To name a few recent ones



Forstall was doomed to fall on the chopping block for political reasons, and they eventually found their justification (IMO)

Spot on : his head was on the block.

Since he left the software has just got worse - love it how so many hear ....choose .... not to look at the facts and rewrite history when it came to Scott - gone for political reason .
 
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You don't . Cause if you actually believe it was all his fault , and he was was the fall guy, you are ignoring the facts - sorry .

Anyway , so we don't get off topic , I'm referring to his removal . Under jobs conflict resulted in innovation and great products .

That’s the extreme leftist way (Tim Cook): if you disagree, it must be chaos. Discourse is not permitted whatsoever.

Everyone must be on the same page these days. Even when they aren’t: fake it.

I agree it results in lack of innovation if the echo chamber walls get thicker.

Coupled with stellar ground breaking sales

You got little to no INcentive to deviate from the plan
 
It's plunged since Steve departed this earth for heaven. We miss him.
I was wondering if anyone else noted the steep plummet of the ranking a bit over a year after Jobs died. During his period of ill health, from 2009 until his death in 2011, the ranking hovered between 19 and 22. The year after his passing, 2012, saw the highest ranking - 10 - which might correlate with a certain esprit de corps among employees mourning his passing. Then in 2013 the ranking falls 24 whopping points to 34, likely as the company was reorganizing upper management and corporate culture in the post-Jobs era. The fall the last couple of years from 36 to 84 is really astounding, particularly given that Apple corporate profits have soared at the same time. Whatever new directions Apple has taken the last several years don't appear to have been commensurate with employee satisfaction. Perhaps it's just coincidence, but it's interesting.
 
I don't understand why the wealthiest company in the world can't supply proper tools and coffee & snacks to the people on which their success is built on. Maybe these are silly remarks. But it really gave me the feeling that working at Apple is not a very great experience and that you're not really cared for as an employee.
The Apple profits were needed to pay the bonuses to the executives and fund the construction of those show piece stores and Headquarter building. Also keep in mind how little Apple executives have decided to pay the retail sales employees.
 
In practice, those who espouse "Tolerance", are quite intolerant to anyone who disagrees with them.

If Tim could manage to get Apple OUT OF POLITICS (much like Jobs did); and instead of focusing on all that energy on product development, perfecting the OS, and creating better support and environment than the competition, they would not only improve their sales, but accelerate the growth across the market. Then focus on supporting the Mac Pro, which was a very well received, expensive desktop; and take the Mac Mini back to the 2012 design - so people have the option to increase the DDR3 RAM, add a second hard drive. The 2012 i5/i7 Mac Mini can easily be modified to be much more powerful than the top of the line 2015 Model - and this is ridiculous.

Standing up for LGBT rights and green energy hardly undermines their product and those issues are only controversial because conservatives use them in their own culture war. Not to mention that Apple’s market isn’t rural for the most part.
 
Any company in the Top 100 is considered a very good place to work.

It’s also fake news, the top 100 list as a concept:

Bad middle managers can easily ruin any experience, even “the best,” that have no idea what they’re doing beyond being authoritarian as can be in roles they don’t understand in the most basic sense.

I like your avatar of Ive w the notch hairdo haha
 
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Tim Cook is widely hated within Apple. I mean, he basically used to run the stockroom, and now they’ve given him the whole company. It’s really sad. No vision, no quality control, no leadership.

He’s spent the last few years repainting Jobs’ old toys, but people are getting tired of that. Occasionally he tries to get involved with politics, and comes across as hopelessly naive. I think he does this to distract from his directionless leadership. When will the board get rid of him?
 
I visited Apple's campus in SF a few months ago (during WWDC) and met up with a designer who had worked there for over a year.

I was surprised to learn that his work phone was an old scrappy iPhone 5C, and that workers at Apple are never prioritized for getting the latest gear to do their work on.

We headed over to Café Macs where I was again surprised to see that every worker had to pay for a simple coffee, as if it would have been a commercial café. I would have expected free snacks, drinks, coffee and meals for working at such a successful company and I don't understand the nickel-and-diming here. I know that the work culture in the US is a bit different than where I'm from (Sweden), but it really tarnished my idea of Apple as a "magical/amazing" place to work at. It felt very cold and big-corporate. In contrast, I've visited the Spotify HQ here in Stockholm and you have access to free coffee, snacks, nuts, protein bars, catered meals, salads, sandwiches, drinks, sodas, energy drinks, etc 24/7 at no charge, you get the latest mid-high specced Macbook Pro and iPhone Plus/X, etc.

I don't understand why the wealthiest company in the world can't supply proper tools and coffee & snacks to the people on which their success is built on. Maybe these are silly remarks. But it really gave me the feeling that working at Apple is not a very great experience and that you're not really cared for as an employee.

This is an interesting comment.
I think when the small signs that you pointed out show a certain overall attitude of the company.
Top execs get absolutely staggering payouts, stock options etc. Guys at the bottom who do the crucial work are overlooked and perhaps undervalued.

I imagine it's the sort of place you spend a couple of years working at to build a great CV.
Free coffee, snacks etc doesn't cost all that much if you buy bulk and claim it back as an expense, so I don't know what Apple's excuse is? The company is started to smell of extreme greed from my perspective.

Again the latest Apple tech should be a given for every engineer/designer etc. Especially when Apple can essentially supply them at cost and then write it off as an expense. Plus you would be keeping your workers very happy. I don't really understand that corporate logic - my only answer is greed. But I'm not an executive so what do I know?
 
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I’m kinda surprised in a way. I thought Tim’s complacency would have made it easier on employees. On the other hand, Apple seems so mismanaged these days it’s not so surprising.
 
Tim Cook is widely hated within Apple. I mean, he basically used to run the stockroom, and now they’ve given him the whole company. It’s really sad. No vision, no quality control, no leadership.

He’s spent the last few years repainting Jobs’ old toys, but people are getting tired of that. Occasionally he tries to get involved with politics, and comes across as hopelessly naive. I think he does this to distract from his directionless leadership. When will the board get rid of him?

I do agree. He's a good bean counter, poor visionary/CEO.

I don't even care if I agree with his politics or not. It really is cringeworthy when a tech company starts virtue signalling. Unless it's tech related they should stay out of politics.

Also if Apple really did care about doing the right thing, why didn't they massively speak out against over turning net neutrality? A voice like Apple could have really made a difference. Yet silence.
 
Look at the companies at 4, 6, 41, 49, 51, 53, 61, 64, 70-73, 75, and 79-81. They all have retail workforce components. I probably missed others in there as well. Every issue you mentioned exists for all those companies.

@iJon Lot's of companies have retail.

I should have expanded, my fault- Its not about just having a retail component, as those are primarily retail organizations and do not have as much operational diversity, and also not nearly as expansive in numbers as Apple. Apple would now be more similar to a department store than to Lululemon, being that the smallest Apple store will have many more employees than the largest Lululemon. How many people go into a store to complain about yoga pants? Ever overhear someone complain about phone signal or storage?

I'm just saying that despite a several spot drop in the rankings, this does not at all equate to Apple suddenly becoming a bad place to work. Its all about perspective and if you compared that same perspective, year over year, you likely will not see a commensurate drop.
 
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Standing up for LGBT rights and green energy hardly undermines their product and those issues are only controversial because conservatives use them in their own culture war. Not to mention that Apple’s market isn’t rural for the most part.
One of the few things I admire about Cook is his liberal political outlook. My main difficulty is in correlating his liberal politics with his corporate policies - outsourcing to entities such as Foxconn and depressed wages of retail employees. I realize other CEOs in large corporations, such as Dell or Amazon and other multinationals, have similar corporate practices, but no one could ever accuse Michael Dell or Jeff Bezos of being "liberal" politically - quite the opposite.
 
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I see a lot of comments mentioning the fact that there may be a lot of retail employees commenting, and that's why the score is low. But there will have always been retail employees leaving reviews, it's not a new thing. I worked in Apple Retail between 2011-2013 and still know some people that work there. The vast majority of people that I worked with across 2 stores no longer work for Apple, and the remaining ones I talk to say it's ****.
 
You don't . Cause if you actually believe it was all his fault , and he was was the fall guy, you are ignoring the facts - sorry.

Actually, I do, very well. And I know the "facts," to the extent not being on the inside and needing to rely on rumors forums. How about you, where do your "facts" come from?

Wasn't Forstall the senior VP in charge of those efforts?
 
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Tim Cook is widely hated within Apple. No vision, no quality control, no leadership. When will the board get rid of him?

1.) How do you know Tim Cook is hated with in Apple? Did somebody tell you that? Have you specifically worked within Apple to make that statement?

2.) No leadership? How so? Please explain why you believe Tim Cook has no leadership at Apple?

3.) Why would the board get rid of him? For what reasons? Under Cook, look how Apple as a Company has grown in their overall success Since Jobs passing in 2011.
 
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To me, it's just business. Apple can't be accountable for social problems or the larger economy. The jobs they create in China are actually some of the most sought after because the workers actually get paid.
You deserve to be a Chinese farmer's son in your next life.
 
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