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Well, actually, yeah, probably. If you look at any other music player, it's a mess frankly. And if you put one next to an ipod, there's just no comaprison, no matter what the feature gap.. No one esle seems to get the simplicity and design, and itunes, which is what makes the ipod work. So yes, the more other companies freak & tweak, the better the ipod looks in comparison.

Now, I hope to hell they do the same with their computers (for those of us already drinking the kool-aid, current offerings aren't cutting it.)

yippy said:
Now about those iPod "killers", they seem to have done the reverse and made it more popular.
 
The stock market is like a beauty contest with different rules.

In a normal beauty content, the judges vote on who they think is the most beautiful contestant.

In the alternative beauty contest, the judges vote on who they think other people will choose as the most beautiful contestant. Which everybody knows, so everybody is thinking about who the other judges think the other judges are going to pick...

The stock market is like the alternate beauty contest.

Great results were already priced into the stock. It's not like investors were going "Wow, I hope Apple made money last quarter, I don't know..."
 
nagromme said:
No, they ARE pleased--and selling to make some quick cash. Always happens.

Not always, no. I haven't seen anything like this happen to AAPL in years. The stock is down something like 20% in one week, including today's after-hours trading. Very bad.
 
IJ Reilly said:
Not always, no. I haven't seen anything like this happen to AAPL in years. The stock is down something like 20% in one week, including today's after-hours trading. Very bad.

It's not bad for the company, but it is an ominous sign for investors...
 
Have faith

I think it'll recover at least partially in the long term (e.g. 6 months). It's a great pportunity to buy as well. I hope it eases in the afterhour trading (back to 49 or 50?)
 
Dangerous Attention

Also just read Apple's computer market share may be as high as 6.6%. I'm proud of Apple but this is going to get serious attention from the competition. I honestly believe Apple has been left alone due to ignorant opinions in the industry. In a state of transition you tend to be vulnerable. I'm not sure how this will play out but I prefer an unexpected and silent attack. You can't blame Apple for doing the best they can but I just hope there's a Macintel announcement ASAP.
 
jaredbbauer said:
I don't understand why investors hate this information and the stock has dropped so rapidly in afterhour trading... Anybody know?

For some reason people love to hate Apple. It's the weirdest thing. "They did real good however not as well as we predicted so basically they suck." :eek:
 
As per usual, this time, after quarterly announcement is the best time to buy shares, as the price decreases...
 
~Shard~ said:
Great news, but I wonder how long Apple can sustain these numbers for - eventualy they'll have to slow down, or begin to drop. Although, with the iPod video coming out soon, maybe not... ;)

I think the move to Intel will help these figures as well, in gettnig more switchers to the platform. :cool:

Enjoy the moment, man... Don't start the bad toughts about the future... People are so pessimistic...

Apple will sustain this growth... maybe will grow even more than now...

Tomorrow we will see some greta Macs and new iPods that will catapult Apple's Holidays and the numbers will blow!!!

Go APPLE!!!
 
Cool! 1 million nanos sold in 17 days. I knew it would be successful, unlike what many thought. I can imagine sales go much higher through the holidays.
 
Imagine the numbers for next Quarter when the Powerbooks + PowerMac lines are updated. There are a lot of people just dieing for the Powerbook to be updated. This along with the holiday season with the updated iPod should make for a great finish to 2005.
 
A $5 dollar drop in aftermarket trading is people shorting the stock for short term profit.

it should bounce back very shortly tmrw morning when the real traders get back.

then if the product announcements are impressive enough, apple will probably either stabilize or go above $40

there are so few people trading aftermarket it is easy to make $$ on swing momentum without the regular institutional/business traders working.

Lets just be happy apple is continuing to prosper during this time of changeover to intel chips.

I sincerely hope they come out with some great computers to end the g5 and g4 era.
 
922 said:
I think it'll recover at least partially in the long term (e.g. 6 months). It's a great pportunity to buy as well. I hope it eases in the afterhour trading (back to 49 or 50?)

Doubtful. Now down over $6.00 in after hours trading. We'll be lucky to see $45 again.

Is anyone actually looking at these numbers, I wonder? Apple missed top line revenue estimates by 1% but they beat EPS by 35%. Profit -- isn't that what's supposed to matter?
 
iPods vs. Macs

It does seem that investors may be disappointed by lower than estimated iPod sales, but they are missing out on the big point--Mac sales are skyrocketing. And, it's the sale of Mac systems that accounted for the great majority of Apple's revenue this last quarter (iPods were a little over $1B and I'm sure software and peripherals accounted for some $$ too).

The increasing sales of Mac systems will do much more for the long-term growth of Apple than the iPod will. Once people get a Mac, they won't settle for music, video, input devices that aren't easy and don't act intuitively. Many Windows people are just happy to get a product that works, but Mac people want a product that works well--and Apple will be there with their iPods and iVids (or whatever) , ready to give consumers what they want and take our cash--which we will hand over gladly because we'll get things that we will want to use.

iPods are great for introducing people to Apple's products, but Macs are what reel people in for the long-haul and cause people to want end-to-end solutions.
 
overseas

jaredbbauer said:
I don't understand why investors hate this information and the stock has dropped so rapidly in afterhour trading... Anybody know?
Alot more was expected.ie over 3.72B and over 7 m ipods sold. The nos in Europe and Japan don't look too good. The US numbers are great.
 
mdntcallr said:
A $5 dollar drop in aftermarket trading is people shorting the stock for short term profit.

it should bounce back very shortly tmrw morning when the real traders get back.

then if the product announcements are impressive enough, apple will probably either stabilize or go above $40

there are so few people trading aftermarket it is easy to make $$ on swing momentum without the regular institutional/business traders working.

Lets just be happy apple is continuing to prosper during this time of changeover to intel chips.

I sincerely hope they come out with some great computers to end the g5 and g4 era.

Traders don't short stocks when they expect them to go up. I realize after hours trading is thin, but a move this dramatic can't be so easily discounted.
 
Keep in mind that after-hours trading is insanely volatile due to low volume and knee-jerk reactions. There's a somewhat loose correlation with after-hours trading after news like this, and the next morning's stock price. I mean I am expecting it to be down, but not this low. Plus we have the special event tomorrow too.

Besides, the stock just ticked up finally, from 45.70 yo 45.75! And now 45.93...
 
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