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Apple Posts $3.68 Billion Revenue, $430 Million Profit in Q4 2005

last quarter they announced them after hours and it shot up like 4 poitns in after market, and was up about 5 on the day.....the quarter before they did the same thing, and the stock was down about 4 points after and 4 during the day, but rebounded a bit the day after
 
Mod_Edit said:
During my internship, I asked a co-intern "What's a great stock investment?" She said Apple. I asked another; Apple. I asked why and the answer was, "It's a traders stock. Buy it, it's gonna go up, sell." Pretty much repeat the process. I've learned Apple is a great "starter stock"... so...
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Sorry, I came off as a jerk, however, the reason it has gone down some what in the after hours market is because analyst projected more from the nano sales and other margins. Which is confusing because they've posted a higher return per share than expected.
 
IJ Reilly said:
I don't know how to figure out the volume in after hours trading but I believe at least some of it is institutional. Haven't seen any big blocks go by the boards yet though. Tomorrow is going to be a nail-biter for sure, what with this and the product announcements. One thing for sure, if the analysts don't love what Steve has to say tomorrow, we AAPL investors are going to wish we'd sold out last week.
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That much we can all agree on! ;)

I am expecting that tomorrow's event will go well. But I am of course concerned about the stock price. If the event goes well, I am hoping it will stabilize around or slightly above 50 again. Then the stage will be set for holiday quarter, and we'll see how things go. 55 was nice, but I'm not expecting it to go back up there for a little while.

The NASDAQ has unfortunately been a drag on things too.
 
madmaxmedia said:
That much we can all agree on! ;)

I am expecting that tomorrow's event will go well. But I am of course concerned about the stock price. If the event goes well, I am hoping it will stabilize around or slightly above 50 again. Then the stage will be set for holiday quarter, and we'll see how things go. 55 was nice, but I'm not expecting it to go back up there for a little while.

The NASDAQ has unfortunately been a drag on things too.
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We really have no idea what products will come tomorrow. If it turns out to be something incremental instead of new and exciting... :eek:
 
drater said:
Sorry, I came off as a jerk, however, the reason it has gone down some what in the after hours market is because analyst projected more from the nano sales and other margins. Which is confusing because they've posted a higher return per share than expected.
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Another bit of information I've learned, "Higher is only good for the buyer" I have no earthly idea why. Value maybe? My partner is the investing one and I just pick up various little babbles and ramblings. Thank god he knows, someone has to pay for my Mac addiction.
 
IJ Reilly said:
We really have no idea what products will come tomorrow. If it turns out to be something incremental instead of new and exciting... :eek:
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Yeah, but is that what you thought before this earnings report came out? That Apple would disappoint everyone with a subpar announcement?

I mean I am worried too, but an hour ago I was pretty sure Apple would deliver a nice rollout tomorrow. They have been dealing with managing hype and expectations for a long time, and specifically set out to create some with the 'One More Thing' line.

The after-hours trading doesn't have too much to do with that, especially since Apple said that there would be multiple rollouts tomorrow (which confirms what I was expecting.)

Of course, most will be just updates (the Macs.) But overall we should get something cool on top of that- the One More Thing...
 
I think at least a good portion of the Mac increase is attributable to the Intel switch. I know it was at least a consideration in a major desktop and portable purchase I made. I cannot imagine I am the only one. I don't think we'll see it next quarter, but non-Intel Mac sales will take a hit once Intel products hit the shelves.
 
Press only at 2 - Replay at 5PM PDT

liketom said:
is the audio feed up ? i can't get it to work 10pm UK = 2pm Cupertino right?
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WHAT: Apple® FY 05 Fourth Quarter Results Conference Call

WHERE: Via conference call. The dial-in number for press is: (913) 981-5582

WHEN: Tuesday, October 11, 2005, 2:00 p.m. PDT/5:00 p.m. EDT

REBROADCAST: The conference call will be available as a continuous rebroadcast beginning Tuesday, October 11 at 5:00 p.m. PDT/8:00 p.m. EDT through Tuesday, October 17 at 5:00 p.m. PDT/8:00 p.m. EDT. The dial-in number for the rebroadcast is (719) 457-0820. Please enter confirmation code 8596444.
 
I will definitely be adding to Apple's Revenue tomorrow with the purchase of a HD Powerbook once they are released.

I don't even want to think about whats going to happen if they are not released. My 700mhz iBook needs to be replaced.
 
madmaxmedia said:
Yeah, but is that what you thought before this earnings report came out? That Apple would disappoint everyone with a subpar announcement?

I mean I am worried too, but an hour ago I was pretty sure Apple would deliver a nice rollout tomorrow. They have been dealing with managing hype and expectations for a long time, and specifically set out to create some with the 'One More Thing' line.

The after-hours trading doesn't have too much to do with that, especially since Apple said that there would be multiple rollouts tomorrow (which confirms what I was expecting.)

Of course, most will be just updates (the Macs.) But overall we should get something cool on top of that- the One More Thing...
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The problem with raising expectations is... well, I suspect you know already.

I hadn't given much thought to tomorrow's announcements. But I think everyone will be scrutinizing them more closely now then they might have done before this.
 
jaredbbauer said:
I don't understand why investors hate this information and the stock has dropped so rapidly in afterhour trading... Anybody know?
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Whisper number was $0.41 in EPS and > 4bln revs. iPod sales fell short of the roughly 7mln estimates on the street. Essentially sell side had built up expectations too much and Apple weren't able to exceed these expectations.
 
iGary said:
I think at least a good portion of the Mac increase is attributable to the Intel switch. I know it was at least a consideration in a major desktop and portable purchase I made. I cannot imagine I am the only one. I don't think we'll see it next quarter, but non-Intel Mac sales will take a hit once Intel products hit the shelves.
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I don't understand your comment. Why would current PPC mac sales increase with the announcement of the Intel switch? Then you expect PPC mac sales to take a hit once Intel products hit the shelves.

It seems like a contradictory oppinion. Either the Intel switch causes a hit to PPC or it doesn't. How does it positively effect sales then hurt sales once it actually happens.
 
IJ Reilly said:
The problem with raising expectations is... well, I suspect you know already.
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Yes, but don't you think Apple knows understands this pretty well?

I mean we're all users and sideline reporters. They are the ones in the trenches, viewing things from ground zero.

I'm not saying I am 100% confident that all expectations will be met/surpassed. What I am saying is that Apple is confident enough about tomorrow's announcement that they have gone ahead and basically said 'Expect something really cool tomorrow.'

One counterpoint to consider is that while Apple may be sure that tomorrow's announcement will deliver the goods, they are not worrying as much about tomorrow's immediate market reaction as they are the big picture. Which gets back to stuff like huge previous swings in the stock, followed by very nice recoveries (MacWorld 05 comes to mind. Who woulda thunk it that the stock would drop immediately after the Mini and Shuffle rollout? But then the stock fully recovered shortly after anyways. I remember because I missed a few points by selling shares early on the initial drop...)

But they're not going to do stuff that they know will jerk around the indivdual investor (or any investor for that matter.)
 
digitalbiker said:
I don't understand your comment. Why would current PPC mac sales increase with the announcement of the Intel switch? Then you expect PPC mac sales to take a hit once Intel products hit the shelves.

It seems like a contradictory oppinion. Either the Intel switch causes a hit to PPC or it doesn't. How does it positively effect sales then hurt sales once it actually happens.
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Perhaps it is because people will want the perceived "stable" PPC setups, versus the first generation Macintels. That would be my take on it. Foolish perhaps, but that is how people think unfortunately.
 
Mod_Edit said:
Great, great.

I'm afraid to say much more cuz i'm a "noob" and apparently we're all very unintelligent.
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Don't worry, so is everyone else, but everyone needs a scapegoat ;)
 
madmaxmedia said:
Yes, but don't you think Apple knows understands this pretty well?
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Of course, but I've yet to see Uncle Steve bound onto a stage and say, "I've got some really dull and unimportant products to announce today!" -- even when they turned out to be just that. Whatever he's got to sell, you know he's going to sell it like there's no tomorrow. The pressure to perform up to expectations is really high now, is all I'm saying. I recognize the sound of knives being sharpened.
 
IJ Reilly said:
Of course, but I've yet to see Uncle Steve bound onto a stage and say, "I've got some really dull and unimportant products to announce today!" -- even when they turned out to be just that. Whatever he's got to sell, you know he's going to sell it like there's no tomorrow. The pressure to perform up to expectations is really high now, is all I'm saying. I recognize the sound of knives being sharpened.
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Steve knows that too.thats why I think tomorrows announcements will be big.

Unless Steve is planning on re-retiring and he doesnt care anymore.
 
jaredbbauer said:
I don't understand why investors hate this information and the stock has dropped so rapidly in afterhour trading... Anybody know?
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It's called institutional greed. They drive up the price through over-estimation, and let the small time investors absorb the shock of the stock drop. It's all orchestrated to get the most money from the dumb.
 
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