My 2020 14" M1 MacBook Pro is still serving me exceptionally well, so I might be ready to replace it in 2026 or 2027.
You mean your 2020 13" M1 MBP?....The 14"/16" came out in 2021 as the M1 Pro MBP
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Apple Preparing for MacBook Pro Models With OLED Displays
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You mean your 2020 13" M1 MBP?....The 14"/16" came out in 2021 as the M1 Pro MBP
Only for those affected by it which isn’t the majority. But I appreciate it sucks for those who do.
These articles always mention the pros, but never the cons of OLED, which include PWM, color stability and long term stability.
Personally, I am not looking forward to OLED and hope Apple will upgrade to something better before I need a new Macbook pro again.
Personally, I am not looking forward to OLED and hope Apple will upgrade to something better before I need a new Macbook pro again.
I'm pretty sure the Asus hasn't got the Tandem tech, the burn in may affect heavy users ie, 6 hrs plus continuous usage every day.
I actually think Oled should be an option
Yep, i mean dark mode is on, i have a 2 min auto dim on screen if not being used.
My wife uses a 65" c9 OLED for the last 4 years for work, she does heavy excel work and even that WOLED has no burn in.
This seems like a natural progression for the MBP. iPad Pro first to gauge tech viability and production scaling. Besides, Apple under Tim Cook hasn’t shown itself too married to any particular type of display tech.
Which market are you speaking of? Since this article is about MacBooks, I'll assume you mean the laptop market in which case your comment makes no sense as in the Windows laptop world (the larger slice of the laptop pie) OLED displays typically start at 400 nits and have 600 nits in HDR whereas IPS displays are 250 nits to 400 nits. What do you mean by "dimmest"?
Asus via BestBuy has a $550 laptop right now with a 3K 120Hz OLED display. Their Lumina OLED panels have a built-in anti-burn in that kicks in after 30 minutes of idle time. Windows has a dark mode. Windows also allows you to hide the taskbar so as to have one less static image on the screen. Burn-in would be difficult here.
Most people I have read who comment about OLED burn-in on modern screens says it's non-existent. So back to the original question of why a $550 laptop can have a 120Hz 3K OLED screen (I have one and it looks spectacularly colorful and bright with inky blacks) but Apple can't manage one for 2 more years?
CRT monitors used to have burn-in, but it wasn’t an issue for most users, especially as the technology progressed. Mitigation processes and manufacturing improvements means OLED burn-in is far less of an issue than it used to be, and is still getting better. The dual OLED layers Apple uses is a big step forward in that regard.
PWM can be present in any screen technology, but can be avoided in all of them. It is more noticeable in OLED when present however. It is surprising that Apple didn’t avoid it when their products are so high end, and a major thing I hope they address.
By the time OLED screens are on the MBP, the advantages will be greater, and the disadvantages much smaller. I look forward to it.
PWM can be present in any screen technology, but can be avoided in all of them. It is more noticeable in OLED when present however. It is surprising that Apple didn’t avoid it when their products are so high end, and a major thing I hope they address.
By the time OLED screens are on the MBP, the advantages will be greater, and the disadvantages much smaller. I look forward to it.
I don't understand why no one talks about this, so I'll have to.
1. OLED burns out faster depending on the content and usage scenario. It can burn out in months, or it can burn out for years without burning out.
2. Apple is obviously waiting for the moment when QD-OLED is ready for mass production and is suitable in terms of price/quality. WOLED panels are more resistant to burnout than QD-OLED, but they convey color in highlights worse because of the white pixel.
3. Micro-LED will solve the burnout problem inherent in OLED.
4. Any displays burn out (degradation of diodes, backlight), even inorganic LEDs, just in different ways.
5. Most people want to know they have a high-performance display, but not its benefits in action.
1. OLED burns out faster depending on the content and usage scenario. It can burn out in months, or it can burn out for years without burning out.
2. Apple is obviously waiting for the moment when QD-OLED is ready for mass production and is suitable in terms of price/quality. WOLED panels are more resistant to burnout than QD-OLED, but they convey color in highlights worse because of the white pixel.
3. Micro-LED will solve the burnout problem inherent in OLED.
4. Any displays burn out (degradation of diodes, backlight), even inorganic LEDs, just in different ways.
5. Most people want to know they have a high-performance display, but not its benefits in action.
Actually it'll be with the M6 or M7 based on '26/7 release date... however that's fine as it'll align with the next process node switch (M5 will be the same as M4)... so that means power goes down (and cooling requirements) which will align with the thinner MBP that's planned
When using my M1 iPad Pro 13 and M1 Pro MacBook Pro 14, my eyes would start hurting and I'd get dizzy. This never happened until I got these devices. I did some research and it turns out the screens on them have the same issue many OLEDs have. So I guess the issue isn't limited to OLED, and in fact some OLEDs don't have the issue severe enough to affect people. So to me the change to OLED doesn't make a negative difference, but there is hope for a positive difference. Perhaps with tandem OLEDs, the problem is mitigated if they are tuned to flicker at opposite times from each other.
I'm thinking they'll cook up their own version of QD-OLED, seeing as they switched to a quantum dot color filter with M4. This would also let them use an OLED panel of just blue pixels, eliminating the color shift observed on pentile and stripe OLEDs of yore.
Samsung already uses QD-OLED, and those panels get up into the 1,700 nit ballpark. No brightness concerns to be had and no need for two layers of OLED.
