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Apple Preparing 'Thinner and Lighter' iPhone for Third Quarter Launch
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2012 iPhone with NFC. Why rush something out to market when most of America and Europe won't have LTE until 2012?
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I was just sayin' to the missuz;
"Dang if this iFone isn't to g'dash fat and heavy. Whadda they think I'm made of: Space and muscle? Can you help me move it into the next room, hun?"
Now the next one will be a third as thick and weigh just an ounce. H'ray.
I was just sayin' to the missuz;
"Dang if this iFone isn't to g'dash fat and heavy. Whadda they think I'm made of: Space and muscle? Can you help me move it into the next room, hun?"
Now the next one will be a third as thick and weigh just an ounce. H'ray.
What does the stock symbol for Appell Petroleum Corporation have to do with this discussion?
I'd like the glass to be more scratch-resistant. I hate cases, and it's hard to avoid scratches. I'd like a bigger screen, but the mock-ups with an edge-to-edge screen don't look right. Obviously, it will get the A5 -- more speed is always better. I don't care about LTE/4g.
I wonder when camera phones will have true optical zoom? That would be nice.
I wonder when camera phones will have true optical zoom? That would be nice.
I agree, they look like a desperate convoluted design created to save Apple money, knowing the fan boys will never complain no matter how ugly, or cheap they look.
Seeing as it took me until the iPhone 4 to actually buy an iPhone, I think I will hold onto it until we get true 4G (LTE-Advanced). I am really not a fan of the concepts that look like they are based on an iPod Touch, with regards to thickness, rounded metal backs and other design cues.
But as always, Design taste is a personal preference.
But as always, Design taste is a personal preference.
That would be cool, but I can't see it happening. They would need to make the phone thicker for the lens. On the other hand, I would take better optics over more pixels any day.
absolutely. To me the main problem with going thiner, is they have to compromise on the lens. I understand it is a phone and not a camera. Sure i have other cameras with great lenses but always having the phone in hand makes it the camera i use most frequently and spontaneously.
LTE should absolutely be there. Sweden has been ready since 2009
http://www.telegeography.com/produc...commercial-lte-networks-in-sweden-and-norway/
http://www.telecompaper.com/news/ericsson-demonstrates-lte-advanced-in-sweden
http://www.telegeography.com/produc...commercial-lte-networks-in-sweden-and-norway/
http://www.telecompaper.com/news/ericsson-demonstrates-lte-advanced-in-sweden
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It's all relative, and we are dealing with something so light to begin with, all you can take away from individual components are fractions of grams.
Glass, by volume, is real heavy compared to a lot of things phones can be made from.
LTE should absolutely be there. Sweden has been ready since 2009
http://www.telegeography.com/produc...commercial-lte-networks-in-sweden-and-norway/
http://www.telecompaper.com/news/ericsson-demonstrates-lte-advanced-in-sweden
You are assuming the current LTE is better than HSPA+. It is not.
Really?
Advantages of LTE over HSPA+
- Flexible Spectrum usage possible with LTE: LTE will be the same whether the bandwidth available is 5MHz or 20MHz. Ofcourse the data rate will increase when the BW is increased. With HSPA+ only 5MHz bandwidhts possible. Similalrly with HSPA+ only FDD mode of operation is possible whereas with LTE FDD or TDD mode is possible.
- Spectrum Effeciency: Better spectrum effeciency, by a factor of 2 atleast over HSPA+
- Simpler Architecture: LTE has a much simpler and relatively flat architecture compared to the legacy UMTS network in HSPA+
- Higher Data Rates: LTE gives DL data rates of 144Mbps and UL of 57Mbps. HSPA+ gives 42Mbps in DL and 11Mbps in UL
- Ultra Low Latency: 10ms instead of 50ms for HSPA+
- Short TTI: 0.5ms instead of 2ms for HSPA+
(my own addendum: LTE also functions in the 700 MHz spectrum, which means it has better building penetration).
Advantages of HSPA+ over LTE
- Will be ready much before LTE: HSPA+ technology should be available in Q1 2009 whereas the earliest with LTE would be sometime in 2010.
- Much less investment in infrastructure: Since HSPA+ is evolution of HSPA which is already being deployed, it would be easier and less costly to upgrade. With LTE since its based on OFDM a lot of new components will be required. Also in case of LTE the number of components are reduced but since they work in a different way, new components will be required.
http://3g4g.blogspot.com/2008/01/comparison-hspa-vs-lte.html
Both of which are moot since LTE is ready and deployed in Verizon's case, imminent for AT&T.
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Well I can almost guarantee the next iPhone will have the A5 processor, as Apple have never had an A4 in one device and an A5 in another device, they are always concurrent to prevent fragmentation. I think the iPhone will have a screen to the bezel, and hopefully either have an aluminium back and use gorilla glass on the front, or if they stick to the glass back use gorilla glass on back and front.
Capacity may increase to 64GB depending on how small they can get the Toshiba / Samsung NAND modules with this capacity, as this is partly why the iPhone 4 only goes up to 32GB as with its "then standard" NAND module size, there was not enough room to put my storage in. 4" display, 8MP camera (wish they would use Carl Zeiss lens), flash and camera separated (corner each) and I have heard the LED light will be used for notification.
Make the home button flat, and maybe touch sensitive - I would even make it backlit for notifications / night time use. I also hope to god they have learnt from their "yellowing" screens issues with LG displays, unlike the Sharp displays which had no issues. Add even a solar panel on the back for charging via daylight if required.
Well I can almost guarantee the next iPhone will have the A5 processor, as Apple have never had an A4 in one device and an A5 in another device, they are always concurrent to prevent fragmentation. I think the iPhone will have a screen to the bezel, and hopefully either have an aluminium back and use gorilla glass on the front, or if they stick to the glass back use gorilla glass on back and front.
Capacity may increase to 64GB depending on how small they can get the Toshiba / Samsung NAND modules with this capacity, as this is partly why the iPhone 4 only goes up to 32GB as with its "then standard" NAND module size, there was not enough room to put my storage in. 4" display, 8MP camera (wish they would use Carl Zeiss lens), flash and camera separated (corner each) and I have heard the LED light will be used for notification.
Make the home button flat, and maybe touch sensitive - I would even make it backlit for notifications / night time use. I also hope to god they have learnt from their "yellowing" screens issues with LG displays, unlike the Sharp displays which had no issues. Add even a solar panel on the back for charging via daylight if required.
That being the case, i will trade my 3GS fro a 4 when the 5 comes out, my company BB is brilliant in this regard. 3GS stinks,
True optical zoom lenses are much more complex and require many more lens elements.
There are concessions to be made in image quality, lens flare, weight, size, cost, and light sensitivity due to the increase of air-glass surfaces.
High-quality zoom lens designs are achievable at the price of cost and size. Smaller, cheaper zoom lens designs typically have slower f-stops, meaning poorer low light performance and less depth-of-field. It's the poorer low light performance that's a bigger issue with cameraphone, largely because of video recording (the shutter speed is basically 1/60 sec.).
My guess is that these any available true optical zoom lens modules are still too bulky for cameraphones, otherwise some manufacturers would be using them regardless of crummy optical performance.
Steve is probably dieing from all of the dust and moon rocks being used to make the apple devices and he realizes that. he does not have a successor and needs to figure out how he is going to run his company.
The reason they are delaying the iPhone is because they are working on putting Steve's personality into iOS5. and if he dies to soon they are going to force his assistants personality to be put into it. this is the reason for the acquiring NUVI and other companies like that. hopefully she wont go crazy and start killing off all the engineers.
I just want definitive answers on what iPhone 5 is going to have. I know this next one is going to be a good product; I'm ready for an answer. these conflicting rumors are just starting to get annoying.
The reason they are delaying the iPhone is because they are working on putting Steve's personality into iOS5. and if he dies to soon they are going to force his assistants personality to be put into it. this is the reason for the acquiring NUVI and other companies like that. hopefully she wont go crazy and start killing off all the engineers.
I just want definitive answers on what iPhone 5 is going to have. I know this next one is going to be a good product; I'm ready for an answer. these conflicting rumors are just starting to get annoying.
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Real world performance, HSPA+ is slightly faster than the current generation of LTE. Long term, LTE will be faster than HSPA+ Current LTE phones will not support the more advanced forms of LTE.
Current generation HSPA+ chips use less power (Next generation LTE should drink fewer electrons, but they are not out yet.) Every HSPA tower can be upgraded to HSPA+ with nothing more than a software upgrade (To get full speed, you will need to update the backhaul for both standards.)
If you look at the phones that will be released in two years, LTE will be better. Today, HSPA+ is the preferred choice.