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I'll say it again, I hope Apple releases the next iPhone WITHOUT 4G. I know this will absolutely devastate some people in these forums but I would really like to get one more iPhone before being forced into a data plan I don't want. 2 more years of unlimited 3G data with a new iPhone would be really nice.
 
If you build it, they will come... :idea:


I however, don't care if it doesn't have LTE. Like someone said, if it works only 10% of the time, and 90% of the time it's a phone I want to throw at a baby, then they can have it. A rep at Verizon mentioned to me that Verizon was basically cornered to having LTE because of ATT & Sprint. Also, he mentioned that they're probably a year or two from actually having a decent system. I for one am a big fan of this concept:

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I'll say it again, I hope Apple releases the next iPhone WITHOUT 4G. I know this will absolutely devastate some people in these forums but I would really like to get one more iPhone before being forced into a data plan I don't want. 2 more years of unlimited 3G data with a new iPhone would be really nice.

The general consensus is no 4G until the 'next' (2012) release.

JohnG
 
Always use a case for any mobile

OK, I hope that "more complicated, hard for us to assemble" doesn't mean that the return rate due to faulty phones will be higher. That certainly doesn't feel like a far fetched problem stemming from these news, and a bit worrying.

Ever since the phone reception issues with the iPhone 4 design, Apple's ferocious hunt for the ultimate design has become a bit worrisome to me. They need to reinforce their reputation for quality, not add new fuel to the QA worries.

Well... Only future will tell. I hope they'll be a hit, and that they will continue surviving the occasional drops to the ground without breaking at the very first incident. Yes, cases exist, but they should not be necessary for daily use if you can live with some scratches. I have dropped my 3GS twice while case-less in the past two years with no issues. Let's hope it stays that way.

Having dropped my first mobile out of my pocket years ago, and smashing it, I've always had a case since. The extra friction from a case makes it unlikely to slip out of your pockets, but if you should drop it, the case protects it. Never had a broken one since my first in the late 80's. :)
 
I'm kind of scared by the phone being significantly thinner... does that mean perhaps that it will not get the same dual core CPU and GPU as the iPad 2? Maybe single core variants?

THats exactly what I think will happen in order for Apple to manage better battery life.
 
Has anyone seen any reports on who will make the lens for the new phone and/or if it will be an upgrade from the current one?

Sony from what I've read, but this is all speculation. And everything points to an upgraded version indeed. (8MP)
 
THats exactly what I think will happen in order for Apple to manage better battery life.

Apple would be taking a very dangerous approach if they did not include a dual core CPU in their hardware. Most people don't even know what the real difference is to a single core smartphone, but even these individuals will always choose dual core over single core. So, not only is it a significant upgrade, but it also sells. And all other competitors in the market have taken the dual core road. Apple not adjusting would seem like a crazy idea, so it is highly expected of them to include the A5 on the next iPhone... 5. While the CPU itself may vary from the iPad version, we will surely be able to experience the dual core A5 on the next gen iPhone. Every iPhone release has included battery life improvements, and I doubt this one will be the exception. A dual core processor does not necessarily mean a battery life downgrade, it just means it packs more efficiency. Both cores are controlled by iOS so ultimately it is the OS the one which saves battery by controlling the CPU's usage.
 
curious about the lens, not the sensor

Yes, i have read that all the reports of a new 8MP sensor, but can't recall reading much of late on the lens. I would like to see it upgraded too, else i believe the 8MP will be of little value.
 
If you build it, they will come... :idea:


I however, don't care if it doesn't have LTE. Like someone said, if it works only 10% of the time, and 90% of the time it's a phone I want to throw at a baby, then they can have it. A rep at Verizon mentioned to me that Verizon was basically cornered to having LTE because of ATT & Sprint. Also, he mentioned that they're probably a year or two from actually having a decent system. I for one am a big fan of this concept:

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Goes to show you have no idea what you are talking about. I have had LTE for months now, and its been flawless minus the one outage in its first few weeks. Regularly get 25mb down, 5 up... But again, keep making excuses for Apple.
 
I'll say it again, I hope Apple releases the next iPhone WITHOUT 4G. I know this will absolutely devastate some people in these forums but I would really like to get one more iPhone before being forced into a data plan I don't want. 2 more years of unlimited 3G data with a new iPhone would be really nice.

If you are on Verizon, you are grandfathered in and will never lose your unlimited data... so again, moot point. AT&T on the other hand might not let you grandfather because its AT&T.
 
Surely they can't make it much thinner, I'd rather it was the same thickness and fill the extra space with a little more battery !

Exactly! The iPhone 4 is already very thin, Apple should keep the dimensions and just make the battery bigger. I have never heard anyone complain that their iPhone is too thick, but I'm sure everyone would love longer battery life.:apple:
 
Apple would be taking a very dangerous approach if they did not include a dual core CPU in their hardware. Most people don't even know what the real difference is to a single core smartphone, but even these individuals will always choose dual core over single core. So, not only is it a significant upgrade, but it also sells. And all other competitors in the market have taken the dual core road. Apple not adjusting would seem like a crazy idea, so it is highly expected of them to include the A5 on the next iPhone... 5. While the CPU itself may vary from the iPad version, we will surely be able to experience the dual core A5 on the next gen iPhone.

Ok, so I agree that people who don't know the difference between a single and dual core will always buy the dual core, there are also a lot of people who will buy the iPhone because its a fashion statement, NYC is full of those people. A lot of people will buy the iPhone because of the amount of apps available etc..... Where I disagree is that all the iPhones competitors have gone the dual core route. There are still a lot of new smart phones with single core CPUs.Also the ones that are dual core, are they really a success. Battery life and heat are 2 of theres downfalls (like LTE).
 
I love the dueling rumors: no major revisions, thinner & lighter, no iPhone, A5 with better camera, etc. I'm pretty sure they are all guessing and talking crap, like us.

That's why this site is genius; it perpetuates without getting old.

It doesn't need to be any thinner and lighter. WTF Apple!!!

PUT A BIGGER SCREEN ON THE DAMN THING!

Yes!

Is Steve modeling products to emulate himself? (FYI-I am optimistic on his return)
 
Ah crap, if this is true i will have to buy another new car kit which costs me roundabout 160$. They could maybe stick to the exteriour measuremnts for a couple of generations.

And to the thinner and lighter part of the subject... i'd very much prefer more battery and/or more storage space... but that's just me...

Buying a "car-kit" is scary enough... but $160??? eeeeeee.....
 
It will be thinner with a chamfered rear like the iPad 2, notice how that progressed from the iPad1? Will be the same for the iPhone 5 - Apple like design consistency. The squared rear has been largely criticised for not feeling good in the hand though the looks are certainly good, this is the most likely change, perhaps with a larger edge to edge screen. Other changes will be internal.

I will be more surprised if I'm wrong than if I'm right, it just seems the logical direction they will take, if not on the iPhone 5 then definitely on the 6.
 
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This is getting rediculous, apple. It's thin enough
 
Does anyone here actually think the next iPhone will have an A5 processor. Look at how much bigger the iPad 2s battery had to be for it to keep the same 10 hour battery life while running the A5. Lots of people here are saying that they would prefer more battery life to lighter thinner. I think that an upgraded A4 with A9 architecture but still single core is in order. With better graphics. It would be very hard to get more battery life and have the A5 chip. It would still be great if the Next iPhone did have an A5.

The iPad's screen is a lot bigger than the iPhone. The bigger battery is needed.
 
If you are on Verizon, you are grandfathered in and will never lose your unlimited data... so again, moot point. AT&T on the other hand might not let you grandfather because its AT&T.

I wasn't aware you could keep unlimited data for the same price when you purchase a 4G phone. I don't have any desire for 4G data so I haven't really looked at the plan details. I just remember AT&T forcing people into 3G data plans (that were more expensive) when the iPhone 3G was released. I'm not a Verizon customer and never plan to be so I'm mainly interested in what AT&T does.
 
Yea I have seen a few people lately comment on the iPhone's "terrible battery life"

That comes out of nowhere because as you say the iPhone 4's battery is one of the if not THE best smartphone battery on the market.

Its phenomenal battery life.

I don't doubt the battery is a fantastic one that other companies wish they could have life-wise.

But for many (as evidence by the number on this forum who complain about it), it is not that great. I had a recent iPhone where the battery life was embarrassing EVEN WHEN I rarely used it. Now, I got a new one and it improved. But others seem to have the same issues.
 
I disagree with those that say it's thin enough. It's thin, relatively speaking, but there's still a lot of progress to be made. My theoretical ideal "thinness" at this time... the depth of the metal band on the iPhone 4. Almost as if the glass sunk in, instead of sat on top. Maybe if the glass protruded SLIGHTLY from the top and bottom. About 1/4th of what it does currently.
 
I'm in agreenment that the Iphone 4 is thin enuff. Id take a lil bigger battery over shaving off a few mm's of the thickness of the phone.
I love this mockup. It looks much more comforable to hold:

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It's going to start being a pain to hold if it gets any thinner. I hate how thin the iPod touch is. It looks cool, but not that functional.

Agreed. I don't understand everyone's obsession with thin, and to some extent lightweight. Too thin and too light just make it difficult to use. I think the iPhone 4 gets it just about right.
 
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