Yeah, this does seem odd, Apple building vast new complexes with the assumption that people will be available to actually occupy them. This is anecdotal, but I've noticed in recent weeks really large numbers of Apple job postings, many for entry/intermediate experience. With all the talk of Apple employees refusing to return, I can't help but wonder if Apple is planning on a massive house-cleaning. Companies can always find ways to accommodate super high performers, but there's also always lots of dead weight in the middle/lower tier employees. My guess is that Apple employees complaining the loudest about returning to the office are more likely to be in the "dead weight" category, and both parties would be happier to part ways.
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Apple Preparing to Occupy 200,000 Square Feet of Temporary Space Ahead of New $1 Billion North Carolina Campus
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Where is the NY campus? Sick of companies not investing in NY and Upstate NY
Cracks me up so many people here believe Apple, one of the most successful and valuable companies in the world, with roughly 150,000 employees, is utterly naive, having no insight with respect to how to meet its staffing requirements and the manner in which their buildings should be occupied and located.
No, they’re just buying landing space so they can fly the spaceship over.
I'm sure they have the forethought to increase the capacity of our streets so that this doesn't make it even harder for me to leave my neighborhood.
EDIT: They as in the city councils/planners. I know Apple isn't in charge of our roadways.
EDIT: They as in the city councils/planners. I know Apple isn't in charge of our roadways.
Apple is not wanted in the Triangle by anyone who actually lives near the new site. Since the announcement, home prices have skyrocketed which is saying something considering the seller's market we are already in. There are no plans to improve infrastructure, schools, public transit, etc. And the land, which cannot be seen from an aerial, is extremely hilly with as much as 800 feet of elevation change meaning the amount of grading will affect several waterways and wetlands.
As a business consultant I’ve found the opposite to be true. There’s usually more dead weight in management than in the worker bees. More than likely, they’re listing those jobs because their employees are quitting. It’s what’s happening at some other companies that have announced return to work this fall.
As a resident of Cary, I’m disgusted that Apple is going to decimate our quality of life and further destroy our forests and land. We don’t want you here Apple. You already ruined the Bay Area. Stay there and lay in the bed you made.
More people, more crowds, higher rent prices. Just NO. hopefully our humidity will make them think twice. We are a TOWN. not even a “city.”
More people, more crowds, higher rent prices. Just NO. hopefully our humidity will make them think twice. We are a TOWN. not even a “city.”
Maybe there is a chance that Apple will get an attitude adjustment and start listening to someone other than those in Silicon Valley. Don't expect it, but can't hurt to wish. Go North Carolina!
Apple didn’t ruin the San Francisco Bay Area. Apple has been located there since the 1970’s. Same with other long time companies. It’s all the “new” tech companies. Google. Facebook. Uber. Twitter. AirBnB. Etc. *That* crap is what has ruined the San Francisco Bay Area.
I hope (potential) employees don’t have their head in the sand if they want to work for apple.
Is it an practical practice never to cut down one tree when building large real estate projects. For anyone?
Probably due to taxes, land costs, incentives, and talent pool.
I still don’t understand the plan — $430B over five years to create 20k jobs? They’ve got big plans, and I don’t think it’s all about job creation.
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And your quality of life will plummet. Trust me. Lived in California 36 years. It’s NOT a worthwhile trade off. There aren’t thousands of unemployed North Carolinian AI engineers just waiting for a job. They’re going to import Californians here to fill the jobs. At massive tax breaks to the corporation. And we will all pay in quality of life, and traffic and housing nightmares. But hey.. Cooper will auction off our quality of life for the benefit of claiming he “created jobs” in the next election cycle.
Please don’t think I’m getting attitude at YOU. This whole situation is just so infuriating. I fled California to get away from urban nightmares.
Nope. Not true. Not even close.
Do some research, perhaps starting with people who have lived in the Bay Area for decades.
I absolutely love this idea. Solves for overpriced housing as well (ie Silicon Valley). You can lower pay significantly and attract top talent for a one-time investment in the compound. It’s a beautiful free market solution of corporate gentrification. It will also retain top talent for decades instead of years. Ford, Goodyear, Dow etc all the big names in American manufacturing legacy did this to some degree in the past and it lives on in low income housing a hundred years later (a problem that will always exist, so this is also forward looking and progressive as well)
Must say I'm surprised Apple needs so many staff and facilities - it doesn't make that many products and most of the manufacturing is done in Asia I presume.
true. only hiring people within the US or that specific place is to ignore all worldwide talent that could work for Apple. Remote work is definitely what innovation means, contrary to that Apple woman who said office work is "essential" to apple culture.
Yep. I had to explain the same to my friends and family here (NC native and resident myself). They aren't gonna be hiring local brains en masse; sure, some, but not like it's being advertised. The big brains are gonna be imported, the operational tech brains will remain in Cupertino; ironically the biggest local beneficiaries will be the non-tech brains (food service, landscapers, construction, disposal, etc.).
So yeah... don't believe the hype.
I have a feeling this all will collapse, Apple got megalomaniac. Apple is doing great for now, but no company last forever, and the fall of Apple will be a hard for them, just wait till a new girl joins the game. But this may take a while till their sales goes down in a way they can’t sustain running all that buildings anymore.
This calls for another ring?!? I'm sure there is a mountain towards the west where they could build the ring around the peak. How cool would that be! Imagine the west coast mountain and gravel bikers that would move there to ride the 'Apple Mountain'! I'd go...