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Apple Preparing to Seed Developer Builds of OS X 10.7.5

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With the public release of OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion coming next month, some have wondered whether the current OS X 10.7.4 will be the final maintenance update for OS X Lion. OS X 10.7.4 was released to the public in early May, and the timeline would be tight for releasing another update prior to the debut of Mountain Lion.

AppleInsider now reports that Apple is preparing to begin seeding builds of a new OS X 10.7.5 to developers in the coming days. No details on the upcoming release have yet been revealed, as the first sign of impending developer builds typically comes from Apple's developer programs simply posting new discussion forums related to the releases.

The new Retina MacBook Pro is currently shipping with a special build of OS X 10.7.4 to include Retina-capable versions of core OS X apps, although Retina capabilities have been showing with increasing visibility throughout the various versions of OS X Lion and now developer builds of OS X Mountain Lion. It is unknown whether these new machines will receive a special build of OS X 10.7.5 or if Apple will incorporate the new Retina display capabilities into a single OS X 10.7.5 build available for all Macs even if they do not support ultra-high resolutions.

A timetable for a public release of OS X 10.7.5 is also currently unknown, including whether it will appear before or after OS X Mountain Lion is released to the public. Apple has on occasion released full maintenance updates after the launch of a successor operating system, most recently with Mac OS X 10.4.11 arriving nearly three weeks after the debut of Mac OS X Leopard, but the company typically limits its older operating systems to security fixes once their successors have launched.

Article Link: Apple Preparing to Seed Developer Builds of OS X 10.7.5
 

ArtOfWarfare

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Interesting... I wonder what, if any, new features from Mountain Lion will end up in Mac OS 10.7.5...

Edit:

Things I have in mind are retina support... and maybe something that recognizes calls to, say, Notification Center, and reroutes them so as to not crash the app.

Only reason I bring that up is I was planning on writing something that does just that today... (some kind of macro that adds in checks for whether the computer has Notification Center and rerouting the notification to an alert window and simply going forward with the command if it does have Notification Center.)
 
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d4rkc4sm

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slow news day or what...?

builds not actually being seeded, but being prepared to be seeded?
 
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CIA

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Hopefully OS level integrated USB 3 support so us MacPro users can finally buy cheap plug and play USB3 PCIe cards without having to deal with drivers, updating drivers, troubleshooting drivers... etc.

Oh and TRIM support for 3rd party SSD's without jumping though hoops would be nice also.
 
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IzzyJG99

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Given how the preferences for Security changed so much from 10.7.2 to 10.7.4 I suspect there'll be security updates to bring it up to par with what Mountain Lion will be sporting. Maybe.

Probably just general update filler in 10.7.5. I doubt they'll add much if anything to Lion that will be introduced in Mountain Lion. 50/50 chance it'll be either Notification Center or Messages being dished out to Lion users. And then a 50/50 chance of them actually doing that. We'll see.

I just assume not have either Messages or Notification Center.
 
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WildCowboy

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slow news day or what...?

builds not actually being seeded, but being prepared to be seeded?

It's more notable than usual since there's been some question as to whether there would even be a 10.7.5 at this point.
 
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HarryPot

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Would there be any reason someone stays of from Mountain Lion and keep Lion?

I get people staying in Snow Leopard. But from Lion, I think things can only get better. Truly, I like the design and new features of Lion, but so far it has been far from being a stable release.
 
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daneoni

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Would there be any reason someone stays of from Mountain Lion and keep Lion?

I get people staying in Snow Leopard. But from Lion, I think things can only get better. Truly, I like the design and new features of Lion, but so far it has been far from being a stable release.

There's no built in RSS support in Mountain Lion. Also some systems simply can't run it. So yea there are reasons.

why don't they just call Mountain Lion 10.7.6 instead?

Because its not a point update.
 
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benwiggy

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Any chance of some bug fixes? I've filed seven in November, and not one has a response. Not even "Cannot reproduce, works as expected."

Most of the bugs I've found relate to Quartz Filters, PDF Services, and Preview. These are features and frameworks that haven't been altered (outwardly) since 10.6, but are now fundamentally broken. Perhaps this is the improved security?

(For the record, these are all completely reproducible, 100% repeatable, major functions that clearly just don't work anymore.)

For how long will Apple keep supporting bug fixes and development on Lion after 10.8 comes out?
 
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wikus

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Does this get rid of Mission Control comments in 3,2,1...

Hopefully not. All the complaints against Mission Control are absolutely valid and warranted. Apple completely failed with Mission Control. Expose was a great experience; Apple's done a great job by removing a feature of OS X and given us a rehashed version of it that has near ZERO customization.

Strangely enough, a lot of people, especially macrumors members are opposed to even having choice in system preferences to setup and customize Mission Control.
 
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IzzyJG99

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Hopefully not. All the complaints against Mission Control are absolutely valid and warranted. Apple completely failed with Mission Control. Expose was a great experience; Apple's done a great job by removing a feature of OS X and given us a rehashed version of it that has near ZERO customization.

Strangely enough, a lot of people, especially macrumors members are opposed to even having choice in system preferences to setup and customize Mission Control.

I'm not so sure that many consumer level users....use either Mission Control or Expose. I think it's mainly used amongst pro level consumers who need multiple desktop real estate space. Maybe I'm wrong. I've just never had any use for either.

Same goes for Launchpad. I've never used it. I have the applications folder in my dock and it pops out nice and clean. I think Apple threw Launchpad into Lion just so the OS looks similar to iOS in the hopes of drawing people over from the iPhone and iPad user group.

But different strokes for different folks.
 
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commander.data

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It makes sense to release a final 10.7.5 in order to roll the new WWDC 2012 Macs into mainline Lion. It'll greatly simplify future security updates, iTunes updates, Java updates, etc. by not having to worry about a bunch of custom 10.7.4 builds.
 
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3282868

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Because its not a point update.

I believe we both know his "point" was 10.8 addresses many of the issues in 10.7 without bringing much to the dinner table, unlike 10.6 was to 10.5. Unless iOS gimmicks and a new Dock are all that...
 
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heisetax

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Yep, my Mac Pro can't run it and no way will I buy one of the "new" ones that were just released.

My current MacPro will not but I have someone that will pay me enough for it & the support I will give him to purchase a new Mac Pro. I wonder what it is that our Aug-Sep 2006 Mac Pros are lacking. I never did hear what it is. Do you know?
 
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MrNomNoms

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Hopefully OS level integrated USB 3 support so us MacPro users can finally buy cheap plug and play USB3 PCIe cards without having to deal with drivers, updating drivers, troubleshooting drivers... etc.

Oh and TRIM support for 3rd party SSD's without jumping though hoops would be nice also.

I've been keeping my eye on a PCIe expansion case for Thunderbolt and wondering whether it is possible to purchase a USB3 PCIe card with it working out of the box or does it require special drivers?
 
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usptact

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Interesting. I don't know if that was smart move to migrate from SL to Lion for my MBP 2008, but the system is pretty snappy. That way I will not be totally outdated :D
Buy new MBP? No, thanks. My old one works just fine.
 
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jlnr

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I don't understand why Apple has excluded machines from upgrading to 10.8 at all. It seems to be a step up from 10.7 for absolutely everybody, unlike 10.7, which has removed some 10.6 features like iSync, Rosetta, server stuff.

Is there *anything* missing in 10.8 that 10.7 can do? Support for old-style FileVault maybe? Or is there anything in 10.8 that really requires more horsepower than 10.7? Even all the HiDPI stuff has been crammed into 10.7 by now.

I wish they'd just give everyone 10.8 so developers would only have to deal with 10.8 and maybe 10.6, but not 10.7.
 
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