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Apple Preparing to Support Digital Car Keys for Genesis Vehicles
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It's a major improvement for me.
1. No need to carry around a key, it's also easier to find a lost iPhone or Apple Watch than a physical car key. The cost of replacing a lost cary key can be a lot. Say I irretrievably lose my iPhone, I can wipe it and replace it (and thus the digital key) easier than replacing a physical key.
2. Not needing to carry a key is great for when I go to the beach, gym, etc.
3. Having to carry round a car key seems archaic to me and something that can be easily replaced with a phone. What if I need to lend my car to a friend? I can easily send him a digital key for a time.
You've not really thought through the advantages it brings.
- Humans with limited pocket or storage space.
- Humans that are forgetful and have trouble keeping track of items they need. Now, important items like House and Car keys can be attached at the wrist.
- Humans that would like to temporarily share vehicles with others – without having to physically hand off a key.
- Humans that have their hands full and would prefer to not go fishing for their keys.
Mobile phone cameras and digital car keys solve similar problems through similar means: increased convenience via the consolidation/integration of technologies.
Phil Collins is hard at work on that.
That time when you stop carrying anything but your phone around, and your battery dies or you drop it. You lose your keys now, in addition to your wallet with credit cards, IDs, and insurance, your camera, your ability to call people, etc. You're either fully connected or free! FREE from it all.
Apple's digital car key implementation allows the car to be unlocked even if the phone battery dies.
Sounds great but…. What happens if you lose your phone, or even worst if it was stolen? (I hope it never happens). I’m afraid your backup key would be also gone with your phone.
Honestly I would not feel comfortable at all by doing that on a fancy car. If it happens to me to have bad luck, my car could be stolen in seconds as well as my beloved iPhone. The scene seems very risky to me, exposing both car and my phone.
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I’m exactly the same. I’m usually for Apple solving a problem that people didn’t know existed, but I really cannot see it making any difference to me carry a key. I carry a wallet too with a couple of credit cards, but occasionally I have to pull one out.
Nice feature, but I can't say I'm desperate for it. I carry around a key fob for the following reasons.
- The ring can open beer bottles
- I have various keys for my shed, house, garden office
- I have an RSA token generator
- My car remote key fob. Unlocks the car when I get near
- The ring can open beer bottles
- I have various keys for my shed, house, garden office
- I have an RSA token generator
- My car remote key fob. Unlocks the car when I get near
That’s an Android phone actually.- shows photo of an iPhone literally against the door handle
You think? just buy a metal box for your keys to resolve that.
Why would a(ny) carmaker integrate this tech into their cars when so clearly apple will be their future competitor? I would not expect them to pave a way for apple.
having to carry less in your pocket or potentially forget/lose, doesn’t solve a problem? Wait until you experience it before commenting…it’s literally my favorite thing having a Tesla the last 3 years.
That’s an Android phone actually.
Oh wow! I was so baffled by the image of placing a phone against a wet car... that I didn't even notice that!
Especially since the whole point of this is to not grab your phone!
That’s how I am. Unless Nissan wants to add this technology to my existing car. I won’t use this for a very long time lol.
why would i want to pull my phone out when i can already simply touch the door handle to unlock my truck?
Because it’s not just an Apple standard?
Also because their consumer base demands it. I know it’s something I want in a new car.
For me it's priceless to not carry around or forget the fob. I believe that even if your iPhone's battery dies you still have several hours where the UWB continues to work to unlock and start your car.
I miss my G80, been thinking about getting another one and this definitely helps my decision.
Has anyone here actually read how this works?
You don’t have to, with Carkey 3.0 the phone can stay in your pocket and it automatically unlocks the door as you approach the car. Carkey 2.0 required you to touch the phone.
Why would you pull your phone out? The tech works by proximity, you don't have to take your phone out or even touch it.
Explain it to me. What am I missing?
Unless it opens the door for you, what’s the point? Having a key in the pocket means you can unlock the door as soon as you touch the handle, which you have to grab to open the door.