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That's what I am saying, they are just two people living in it, for me it feels they want to feel like millionaires and when they realize the cost of maintenance and other expenses for it, they might end up losing everything else they have. They could buy a super real nice house with half their money and save the rest for healthcare, savings, and other investments. I learned one should never put all their eggs on one basket.

In almost every part of North Carolina, a 4,200 square foot house can be purchased for less than $500,000. They very well might have done exactly what you said - bought "a super real nice house with half their money".
 
Apple paid $1.7 million for land that is worth less than $200,000? Couldn't they have found other land that was much cheaper? I'm sure the town of Maiden has plenty available. What was so special about this particular tract?
 
That's the (intended) beauty of this country - they can spend it how they please. Maybe they have dreamed for a bigger house with a 60" flat screen and a dual-action dishwasher their whole life but coul dnever afford it - why must you try and take that away from them?
I never said it was my business, i just said that it upset me a little bit. Since we don't know what house they bought or how much it cost we are all making assumptions. I know how much a 4,200 sq. ft. house would cost where i live and it would not have been all that cheap. If they got it for around 400,000 then more power to them and I will not be as upset anymore.

It's none of your business what they do with their money, worry about yourself. Should we all discuss how you should live your life?
Hell, I just bought a house myself and my parents are telling me how to spend my money and how i should live my life.

Apple paid $1.7 million for land that is worth less than $200,000? Couldn't they have found other land that was much cheaper? I'm sure the town of Maiden has plenty available. What was so special about this particular tract?

From my understanding it is sitting beside there new data center
 
Apple paid $1.7 million for land that is worth less than $200,000? Couldn't they have found other land that was much cheaper? I'm sure the town of Maiden has plenty available. What was so special about this particular tract?

It tells you in the first post. It's part of the site they have chosen for their data centre development.
 
That's what I am saying, they are just two people living in it, for me it feels they want to feel like millionaires and when they realize the cost of maintenance and other expenses for it, they might end up losing everything else they have. They could buy a super real nice house with half their money and save the rest for healthcare, savings, and other investments. I learned one should never put all their eggs on one basket.

Now, they might have some big savings at the bank from before the buy and might not care to spend the money also...

Because they are millionaires?

Odds are if they haven't moved in that amount of time they're happy with staying where they are now. It will be their family's house after they're gone. Pretty sure they can afford the upkeep on the house by doing some solid investments.

Plus nobody knows what these people do/did for a living. I know a millionaire or 2 who live very modestly and you'd never guess they had money. People need to quit judging them for their choice on a new home. I know I'd probably do the same thing, live COMFORTABLY for the rest of my life.
 
You can't tell me this doesn't have anything to do with ATV and iTunes. Steve intro'd the ATV update and knows a lot more is coming, duh. Yeah, its small, big deal, just wait till we get this server farm crankin and your head will spin off your neck! :apple:
 
You can't tell me this doesn't have anything to do with ATV and iTunes. Steve intro'd the ATV update and knows a lot more is coming, duh. Yeah, its small, big deal, just wait till we get this server farm crankin and your head will spin off your neck! :apple:

Server farm... Fitting terminology for a data center in the middle of Nowheresville, NC.
 
Yup, a la Kelo v New London. It's disgusting. But at least in this case Maiden, NC did not attempt eminent domain proceedings and the couple was paid very handsomely.

But who the hell needs 4,200 sq. feet for just two people?

Uhh, people who sell their old home for 1.7 million?
Duh :rolleyes:

We don't do things based on need here. You can move to a socialist country to sample that type of society.
 
should have held out for more...

Not necessarily. There are a variety of ways this could have worked out so that the couple gets much less.

E.g., Apple could have pressured the local govmnt to use eminent domain to take the property for market value -- ~200K. Of course that would probably cost Apple a lot in terms of delays and bad press.
Or Apple could have adjusted plans in order to work around the property. That would no doubt cost Apple a lot but in the end would make the house almost worthless -- for the couple and potential buyers -- who wants to live in the middle of a large data center?

In any deal, each side tries to maximize gain and minmize loss. It sounds like both parties did that pretty successfully.
 
Good for them on getting that much for there property but... It sort of upsets me that they went and bought a 4,200 sq. ft. house. I don't know them so am making assumptions and could be very wrong but I am guessing that they did not need to buy that large of a house on that many acre. A 34 year old house is not likely to have been very extravagant and they managed just fine with that one.

Seriously, invest the money, fix up your home town, donate a million to a charity, something other than spend it all on a house.

The charity I would donate to would be my family, and their kids for a few generations. The home would end up with my kids and they and their kids would have school fully paid for etc.

Best charity I can think of giving money to.

or you could give it to some big charity that splits it up amongst 100,000 people you'll never see or know.

They didn't blow it in Vegas, they didnt buy 3 yachts and pool full of caviar. They bought a house. That's a lasting and solid investment. Cut em some slack.
 
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I'm curious why Apple would pay so much for land valued for so little. I'm sure there's plenty other 1 acre lots in "rural georgia".
 
They didn't blow it in Vegas, they didnt buy 3 yachts and pool full of caviar. They bought a house. That's a lasting and solid investment. Cut em some slack.

Translation for all of you in NC: Pool full of caviar = Cement pond full of fish eggs.

(btw, I love NC. My family enjoys vacationing there.)
 
Good for them on getting that much for there property but... It sort of upsets me that they went and bought a 4,200 sq. ft. house. I don't know them so am making assumptions and could be very wrong but I am guessing that they did not need to buy that large of a house on that many acre. A 34 year old house is not likely to have been very extravagant and they managed just fine with that one.

Seriously, invest the money, fix up your home town, donate a million to a charity, something other than spend it all on a house.

You spend your money the way you want to... and let them spend their money the way they want to.

Personally, I find it hard to hold it against someone for buying their dream home when they get the chance.
 
I must have Star Wars on the brain. Your rhetorical question somehow made me visualize the conversation aboard the Death Star when Tarkin says,

"Prince Ballmer, before your dismisal I would like you to be my guest at a ceremony that will make this battle station operational. No operating system will dare oppose the Emperor now.

"In a way, you have determined the choice of the OS that'll be destroyed first. Since you are reluctant to provide us with the location of the Win7 code base, I have chosen to test this station's destructive power... on Windows Phone 7."

Good one.:)
 
I used to live in a rural city. This is so typical of their mentality. Get a ridiculously bigger house with more land for no reason. People in the country value their wealth on the size of their house.
 
Strategy

I am wondering now that everyone has made posts about the buying price, investment crap and other useless comments.... What is Apple's deal here?

What I know about Apple is:
-They have invested in Akami whose reach is global
-One data Centre doesn't work for distribution, they would need at least 3
-The costs of running a Data centre are enormous and Apple doesn't give a lot for free or low cost.
-They now have 2 data centres (San Francisco, Maryland)


My guess is:

The current data centre at the head office was too small to expand properly. They are not getting into Cloud, low cost mobileme or anything that involves (rsync, imap) data shared between user/data centre. There are hardly enough mobileme users to warrant multiple data centres..... So the final answer, A online store! That is right, music, movies, tv shows, apps and anything else that is not sensitive to tcp/ip, rts, timing problems like.... live shows.

Now everyone can go back to the regular program of, housing investments are crappy, Apple paid too much for the house, The past owners should have saved their money, blah blah blah.....
 
The current data centre at the head office was too small to expand properly. They are not getting into Cloud, low cost mobileme or anything that involves (rsync, imap) data shared between user/data centre. There are hardly enough mobileme users to warrant multiple data centres..... So the final answer, A online store! That is right, music, movies, tv shows, apps and anything else that is not sensitive to tcp/ip, rts, timing problems like.... live shows.

So are you implying they are only building a giant Drobo for their supersized iTunes library? Instead of swapping drives, they will be able to hot-swap entire modular buildings.
 
To the people who are condemning the poster who wrote "I've had enough of these real estate squatters and land trolls. I think if someone owns a piece of valuable land and doesn't develop it within 2 years, they should lose the rights to that land. It's ridiculous for Apple and others to have to pay these ransoms.

/satire "

I hope you realize (it was even indicated) that the post was SATIRE. The poster was obviously referencing the whole "debate" over intellectual property (all the patent lawsuits). A poster there made the argument that if no one uses their patents for 2 years they should lose the right to have the patent. This poster was adjusting the reply to fit this scenario.

chill doll chill....... satire
 
That couple is VERY lucky. Using eminent domain, the county/State could have taken their land from them and given them fair market value. It happens a lot when big businesses move in (ex. Walmart).

Business tells gov't that the taxes collected outweigh the residential value and BAMM!, it's whisked away from the owner.

Yeah, it's pretty scary how the Supreme Court interpreted that bit and has now been used a precedent to take away property from land owners for the "greater" good.
 
Well they bought the land back in 1976. There probably AT LEAST sixty or so. I don't think initially this was about holding out. I think if you live most of your married life in one place and make it something out of nothing, then you decide where you want to live the rest of your life and finally pass on. I'm glad for them as $1.7M is nothing for Apple to pay. They are older folks who now have to move their whole lives to a new place -- that is not easy on their generation.

Sounds like they got some decent new digs! :D

edit: And they DID NOT spend all of their money on that place -- probably spent less than $400,000 for all of that where they're at.

Best reply of the thread.
 
$1.7 million doesn't buy you all that much in Beverly Hills these days.

:D

Any place in So. California. The house down the street from me is listed at 1.3M. it is a newer 2 story about 2,700 square feet on a 50x100 foot lot in Redondo beach. Another one on the block sold for 600K but was quickly bulldozed after the sale. This is just a normal mid class city with mostly people who work as engineers, retaied firemen, one guy is a pharasist and a radiologist, another has a 7-11 store the guy next door is a mechanic

Up in San Jose near where Apple is located prices are a little higher. I'd bet many or even most Apple Engineers or execs have houses valued at either side of 1M

Actually many parts of Beverly Hills have homes for far under 1M. There are a lot of smaller homes built pre-war or even in the 1920's that are nice but small and not hugely expensive. My mother grew up in that area.
 
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