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I didn't buy my car for CarPlay, I bought it because it was the car I wanted, CarPlay just came along with the car and I prefer not to have it at all.

It's POS laggy just like iOS 9. I would rather use the manufacturer's headunit software than CarPlay. It's all about integration and car manufacturer can tweak and optimize the software for the hardware it's running, while CarPlay has to support all those hundreds of vehicles. Any integrated head-unit software will be faster than CarPlay.

So carplay isn't bad, you are just bitter about iOS 9. Got it! Thanks :)
 
Either you think something else is car play, you dont know what car play is or you have an older phone. Which phone do you use with carplay and which car?

Carplay runs completely on the iPhone, there is no hardware to integrate with on the cars. The only hardware used is the touchscreen. So if it is laggy, it is because your of your phone not the car hardware.
I have iPhone 6S Plus, the latest and greatest. I hope that clears it up. It can barely run the inefficient and laggy iOS 9, how can it smoothly also run CarPlay?
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So carplay isn't bad, you are just bitter about iOS 9. Got it! Thanks :)
You just never used CarPlay and don't know how laggy it is. Got it. Thanks!
 
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I do agree that lately Toyota has lost their mojo and making numerous mistakes including look of their new cars. front of their corola,lexus,etc look so horrible that loyal Toyota customer like me now looking elsewhere.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one that noticed how horrible the new front ends are on the Lexus line. WTF are they thinking? It reminds me of the predator.

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Apple doesn't want anyone stealing their thunder because they will probably give a demo of it at WWDC in June.

In which case Apple should have been faster than the competition. Isn't this another part to their free market society they want but they want to be referee along with making the rules? I'm confused.
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I'm guessing something like "There's electricity in the air". People will freak out about the MBA getting updated but it'll be about wireless everything iOS related.

There is. Just not enough being focused to cause harm to anything or anyone. At least until a lightning storm, but nature abhors a vacuum.
 
I have iPhone 6S Plus, the latest and greatest. I hope that clears it up. It can barely run the inefficient and laggy iOS 9, how can it smoothly also run CarPlay?
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You just never used CarPlay and don't know how laggy it is. Got it. Thanks!

Knight... you need to do something serious with your iPhone... OS9 is not laggy on our iPhone 5 or 6... so I'm thinking with all the complaining you're doing on Laggy, you have other issues going on. BTW... it is a bit laggy on our iPad 2... but even there, things run fairly smooth.
 
Knight... you need to do something serious with your iPhone... OS9 is not laggy on our iPhone 5 or 6... so I'm thinking with all the complaining you're doing on Laggy, you have other issues going on. BTW... it is a bit laggy on our iPad 2... but even there, things run fairly smooth.
iOS is not laggy on iPhone 5 because it's not using Metal. Also it's not as laggy on iPhone 6 because it's not downsampling each frame like Plus does.

The lag is most noticeable on Plus models of both 6 and 6S. If you want the best performance never buy the Plus model or don't update to iOS 9.
 
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That's why I don't want CarPlay in my car. Another walled garden. I tried CarPlay in my car and it is slow and laggy, ended up not using it ever again.

"Walled garden" sounds like typical Apple hater language. Can you share you experience? Laggy after you tap each button? Laggy navigation, etc? If it's laggy, that would suck. There is no room for a laggy experience at all when you're behind the wheel.
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It would be nice if CarPlay had an option for monochrome icons that match the car's nighttime lighting. For example, many VW's have really pretty red panel lighting at night. CarPlay would be more attractive in those cars if it could display in all red, suitably dimmed for nighttime driving. Other color schemes obviously make more sense for other types of cars. Full color should be an option that the automaker can either make default or not, and which the user can adjust.

This! One thing I love about older BMWs is their uniform orangey-red lighting throughout. Now with nav screens and such it kills the uniform red unfortunately, but still, in my VW GTI, it's red all around with some dashes of orange and I love it.

With cars being unique extensions of personality, I would think Apple could agree to allowing a bit of customizability in the same way they allow a variety of watch faces for the Apple Watch.
 
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I have iPhone 6S Plus, the latest and greatest. I hope that clears it up. It can barely run the inefficient and laggy iOS 9, how can it smoothly also run CarPlay?
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You just never used CarPlay and don't know how laggy it is. Got it. Thanks!

You should take your phone into Apple then, something is clearly wrong with it.

Myin runs iOS 9 just fine. I actually noticed a fair speed difference between the 6 and 6S
 
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Toyota as the only holdout for Carplay? Toyota making lots of serious mistakes these days. Hydrogen cars are their big focus and its a lost cause. Battery electric is where its at and they're ignoring that area. It takes enormous energy to compress and transport hydrogen. Its a horribly inefficient, complex and expensive fuel to use rather than use batteries to store electricity for which there's already infrastructure in everyone's home.

The battery components for the world to covert battery power will very soon become critical. Hydrogen is on the back foot in the UK (What else could we expect ), whereas Germany, Denmark, Japan and the USA are embracing it far more readily. It's far too early to make such a statement. Hydrogen is the only serious medium to long term alternative to the curse of fossil fuels.
 
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Lol at people thinking this doesn't have to do with the emissions scandal. Really, guys, how often does Apple get involved in liberal political causes. Oh yeah, basically every single time.

I think you're right, 60/40, but wish you weren't. It feels "immature" to me if Apple is distancing themselves for an entirely unrelated reason like this. I feel like only wacko's would feel Apple is tarnishing their reputation.
 
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Are any of the current wired CarPlay systems supposed to be upgradable to wireless CarPlay with future software updates? Or is a hardware change necessary to enable this?

Maybe Apple wants iOS 10 at WWDC to have a wireless theme. Wireless headphones, wireless charging, wireless CarPlay. Wonder how the invitation will hint at this?? :)
Apple logo w a thunderbolt in the middle of it and a blue backdrop (for bt). One plug and the rest w bt.
 
iOS is not laggy on iPhone 5 because it's not using Metal. Also it's not as laggy on iPhone 6 because it's not downsampling each frame like Plus does.

The lag is most noticeable on Plus models of both 6 and 6S. If you want the best performance never buy the Plus model or don't update to iOS 9.

I have a 6S Plus - No lag. Must have a rare specimen.
 
iOS is not laggy on iPhone 5 because it's not using Metal. Also it's not as laggy on iPhone 6 because it's not downsampling each frame like Plus does.

The lag is most noticeable on Plus models of both 6 and 6S. If you want the best performance never buy the Plus model or don't update to iOS 9.

So why have you done both?
 
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I'm guessing something like "There's electricity in the air". People will freak out about the MBA getting updated but it'll be about wireless everything iOS related.

I like that. Seems likely. Clearly you've been around here long enough to know how it works, haha.

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June seems kind of a long time to wait for a feature like this to debut. Makes me wonder if they'll show it at the rumored late winter/early spring event.
 
So why have you done both?
iPhone 6S comes with ios 9. I chose the plus because 4.7 is too small while 5.5 is laggy. Those are the benefits of walled garden approach and the benefits of having one manufacturer who can screw up the whole walled garden because some bozos are running the company.
 
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iPhone 6S comes with ios 9. I chose the plus because 4.7 is too small while 5.5 is laggy. Those are the benefits of walled garden approach and the benefits of having one manufacturer who can screw up the whole walled garden because some bozos are running the company.
Sounds like maybe Apple isn't the company for you anymore! They don't seem to be fulfilling your needs.
 
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Are you sure? I just looked at Pioneer's website and you can connect wirelessly to stream music from your phone but that is different then using CarPlay. Do not have any mention of connecting your phone to CarPlay wirelessly.

Pioneer does not offer wireless CarPlay on any of their current models. I own one.
 
Either you think something else is car play, you dont know what car play is or you have an older phone. Which phone do you use with carplay and which car?

Carplay runs completely on the iPhone, there is no hardware to integrate with on the cars. The only hardware used is the touchscreen. So if it is laggy, it is because your of your phone not the car hardware.

Absolutely untrue. I have had numerous problems with CarPlay performance on my Pioneer that was not in any way related to the phone. Often it requires a soft reset of the deck, which I do by pushing the recessed reset button on the front of the unit using the SIM ejection tool from my iPhone, ironically enough...
 
What the hell is this article talking about? My friend has a Toyota Avalon with an aftermarket Pioneer stereo and it has Carplay and connects via bluetooth, not some kind of USB connection. Unless he figured out some way of making it work that Apple is somehow totally unaware of.

He's not using the Car Play function if he's connected via bluetooth, but the head unit's systems instead. Car Play itself runs on the iPhone which uses the head unit's screen as a second monitor.

With Pioneer's units you can use either method (if it had bluetooth) to stream music and use phone functions over bluetooth, but to actually use CarPlay itself you need to connect it via cable.

Source: I own a Pioneer head unit and use it daily in my car with CarPlay.
 
I have Pioneer AppRadio 4, and I rarely use carplay since it requires plugging in. I connect wireless using bluetooth for music and phone. when I hop in my car, I don't want to mess around with cable. only when I need to charge it, then I need cable.

for people to use carplay daily, it needs wireless and connect automatically without user intervention. that is why bluetooth is used most of the time in car today.
 
Nothing to do with VW's emission scandal?
I do think so.

There might be some other reason... but if I were Apple, I'd not want my brand seen with VW right now. So, that certainly *might* be the reason.

Sounds like maybe Apple isn't the company for you anymore! They don't seem to be fulfilling your needs.

Unfortunately, that's increasingly becoming the case for Apple's traditional user-base. :(
(I've been an Apple evangelist for almost 30 years now... and I'm starting to look for alternatives. The problem, currently, is that there really are none. But, Apple's headed off a cliff, IMO, so we'd better hope.)

Witch hunt? Do believe VW is being scapegoated or unduly persecuted?

It depends. I think this scandal (it's timing, for example) is a 'hit' on Germany by the US. The problem has been known for years, and VW refused to admit it. But, the timing is interesting to finally expose it once and for all. Also, given that other manufacturers have done the same or worse... yea, it's a witch-hunt of sorts.

At the same time, VW is certainly guilty. And, unlike increased CO2, increased NOx is actually an environmental problem. The sad thing is that in VW's Europe, they are more concerned about CO2 than NOx. The USA (and Canada) have fairly strict NOx regulations, which I actually think is a good thing, as it's an *actual* pollutant.

I also own a 2010 Jetta TDI, so this is personal for me. I'd not have purchased it in light of this... so it's a pretty big deal to me. I bought it because of the combo of performance, fuel-economy, and practicality. If they kill either the performance or fuel-economy, then I'd have bought something different. The only real solution for me is a buy-back, which I'm doubting they will do. And, unfortunately, they've already released a couple of firmware 'patches' prior to all of this hitting the news that have made the care run much hotter. The fan runs *a lot* now. Unless I'm on the highway, it runs almost constantly. And, even in below-zero weather, it often runs while sitting at a light or for minutes after I get home and turn it off. I don't think that's good for engine longevity, or at least the fan.

VW is in a huge mess here, and economic hit-job or not, I don't get the feeling they are going to respond appropriately. Everything so far has been a blame-game, silly offers of compensation (with questionable terms!), feet-dragging, and trying to PR their way to a 'solution.' If they'd just said sorry, and offered real solutions... I'd at least feel much better about them. But, they probably know that most people these days don't even have their brains engaged, and their tactics might work, on whole. :(
 
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