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I trust Apple but I don't trust ANYONE when it comes to privacy. Trust me it can be used against you. It's deadly.
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Apple Privacy Chief Explains 'Built-in' Privacy Protections in Child Safety Features Amid User Concerns
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“Show me the man, and I’ll show you the crime.” – Lavrentiy Beria
Don't worry though, the best of intentions are behind this and only noble men/women will be overseeing everything, so nothing can go wrong.
As the world moves more towards centralized cloud computing, I think people are freaking out over the lack of privacy that this involves (and rightfully so).
How could Apple get hold of my wife pictures? The check happens client-side, no data leaves my device and photos in iCloud remain encrypted.
On the other hand, if you don’t trust them, they could have been watching your wife for 10 years. And you would have been none the wiser.
Thanks for summing up the problem and why it is so important for those that do care to be vigilant.
The "everyone else has been doing it for so long and you didn't care" excuse is tired and is a pathetic way to convince people to just give up.
If no data leaves the device how will this help at all? Even if I have a picture from their database they would never know because no data leave the device.
I'm sure that the CCP will mandate scanning Chinese iPhones for images of Tank Man, Winnie the Pooh and the Hong Kong protests before long. As for me - I won't update to IOS 15. When my apps stop working on 14, I'll get an Android.
Trying to be helpful --- this is what I'm seeing : (The image is uploaded then, yes - if positive identification to CSAM?)
Taken from: https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/10/i...abuse-detection-and-messages-safety-features/
“Just turn off icloud photos”. Thats like saying if you dont want to share appletag info turn off findmy
it sounds like a choice but apple is intentionally bundling features because they know you really cant.
Also, when you buy an iPhone you pay for 5 GB of iCloud. So they are saying pay for it, but don't use it.
Oh agreed.
I spent a LOT of effort years ago to move from Google Photos to iCloud Photos. I've been happily using iCloud photos for years - I've got:
And I'm so addicted to the convenience of taking a photo and it instantly being available on all my Apple devices - it would be inconceivable for me to turn it off. lol.
Why are they doubling down on this so hard? Who asked them for this?
Not to sound conspiratorial but it’s getting to the point where it feels like the government put them up to this.
Super disappointed in Apple, and I now don’t feel safe upgrading to iOS 15 or buying a new iPhone once iOS 15 is released.
Not to sound conspiratorial but it’s getting to the point where it feels like the government put them up to this.
Super disappointed in Apple, and I now don’t feel safe upgrading to iOS 15 or buying a new iPhone once iOS 15 is released.
Perfectly reasonable explanation and exactly what I and many others have been telling the concerned (and some outright paranoid) on this forum. But no surprise those naysayers immediately jumped on this thread to dismiss everything that was said. They have already tried, convicted, and hanged Apple in their mind and nothing will change that for them. So silly, but what can you do? Some people take cynicism to an unbelievable extreme. Apple could even hire an independent firm to confirm all their claims, yet these people would just cry, "Paid shills!" 
Google has made 360K notifications, as per their own transparency report.
Google Transparency Report
If you are careful enough to never turn on iCloud Photos (which sometimes they are enabled by default), yes. Your phone still does the scanning, but any vouchers (if generated) will not be communicated with Apple. At least for now. Since iOS is not open source, you will never know.
And the problem remains, that the fact the scanning still takes place locally, on everyone's iPhones worldwide.
Indeed, just wanted to isolate and emphasise it. So many believe it to be true.
It would really help if you actually read their FAQ on how they do this. And when.
I am not saying this is wrong or right, just yet. It won’t even affect me, since I am not American. I do have concerns. Any such technology can always be abused. And when it can be abused, it is only a matter of time.
At the very least I paid for iCloud Photos as a component of buying the device. Therefore iCloud storage is reasonably an extension of my device and protected from illegal search and seizure. While Apple isn't directly a government agent even landlords can not simply enter tenant's domicile at will.
Turning off iCloud shouldn't even be considered as a solution because it's just another room associated with my devices.
I have read it. Data that contains information about the content on my device leaves the device.
Years ago you could figure out if someone was home by calling over and over until you got a busy signal. That busy signal is data that can be extrapolated to tell you all sorts of things. Anything that provides any information about the device's content is sharing device data.
Yes. That make me wonder. How are they implementing the code on the device? They say its in OS but only enabled in US. How technically is that gonna work? Different OS distributions depending on localization?
Apple is scrambling now. What a poorly orchestrated communications campaign. A Harvard business case of how to **** up and ruin a company reputation that has not been on firm ground for some years now. Down they go...