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Apple Pro Machines -- Still Coming?

klaus said:
croquer.free.fr

but he changed it slightly, the first model comes with regular PCI, instead of PCI-x.
at least, according to that rumor site (yes, it IS a rumor, not yet confirmed)
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http://croquer.free.fr/
Yes, I changed it because PCI-X rev 1.0 are :64bit at 100 and 133Mhz.

This rumorsite is not the baddest one, like others it isn't accurate at 100%, that's why it's rumor.!!!

ex: Sunday april 4, they announced security update, it came Monday evening !
They announced problems with ATI graphic cards. it was confirmed

So this news is rumor,untill Apple reveals them !!
But it's serious enough because I informed different Mac sites in # countrys who wouldn't publish it by fear for Apple distortions !!!
So take it for what you want

:rolleyes:
 
if those are correct and if they're coming anytime in the next few weeks, i'd sure be pissed if i didn't wait. assuming the lowend price point stays the same ($1800), you could buy that lowend machine and a 23" and still get a better system for a better price than the current highend + 23" - $500 rebate.

this past weekend, i was so tempted to just walk out of the apple store with a new system in hand. well, even if not true, this makes me wanna wait again.
 
JamesDPS said:
Yeah the mid-range would be perfect for me, assuming a price of around US$2500... anyway I somehow don't give those specs more than "speculation" credence, but you never know...

So what's the consensus now, anyway? I sort of lost track --- NAB, or WWDC for PM revisions? By b-day is June 30, so I'm going with WWDC ;) but I wouldn't complain if there were something impressive earlier than that... only real concern of mine is the shipping time after announcement... cuz it'll really tick me off if and when they DO announce revisions are ready and then they're like "shipping in 3 months".
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Since it is 2.6GHz it would be at NAB because then Steve wouldn't have kept his promise if he released them at WWDC.

The specs could be correct as long as the video ram tops out at 128 megs...

The middle end would be PERFECT for me as well.
 
get real

cmoney said:
if those are correct and if they're coming anytime in the next few weeks, i'd sure be pissed if i didn't wait. assuming the lowend price point stays the same ($1800), you could buy that lowend machine and a 23" and still get a better system for a better price than the current highend + 23" - $500 rebate.

this past weekend, i was so tempted to just walk out of the apple store with a new system in hand. well, even if not true, this makes me wanna wait again.
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Like Apple is going to release a dual 2.2 machine for $1,800. Sheesh you guys are getting delusional.
 
invaLPsion said:
Since it is 2.6GHz it would be at NAB because then Steve wouldn't have kept his promise if he released them at WWDC.
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Since when did Steve promise they would release 3.0 chips at WWDC?! He mentioned that 3.0 would be possible but that doesn't mean you'll see them for another six months.
 
Evan_11 said:
Since when did Steve promise they would release 3.0 chips at WWDC?! He mentioned that 3.0 would be possible but that doesn't mean you'll see them for another six months.
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Actually I believe that last WWDC, he did promise 3.0 GHz in a year. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
$3300 for a 23" Display and 2.2 dual G5.

Look at the above subject header and tell me that this is not the most rediculous thing you have ever seen :rolleyes:

There is no way Apple will release anything remote to the above unless they prematurely end the current 23" promotion.

I can also guarantee that with the powermac we will also see cinema display revisions.

Nothing else including that doofy french guy's site makes any sense.
 
Talking sense.

Single 2.2 - $1695
Dual 1.8 - $2195
Dual 2.2 - $2795
Dual 3.0 - $3495

Now the above makes sense. A water cooled dual 3.0 is going to cost a lot more to produce. There will however be enough people willing to pay for such an increase in performance. The other models won't require a redesign like the 3.0 model. Why haven't the 1.8 - 2.2 models already been released? Well obviously because 2.2 would be a pretty weak speed bump and Apple rather go all or nothing.

When and where these will be released is anybody's guess. I suspect however at WWDC along with the updated monitors.
 
iAtom said:
Actually I believe that last WWDC, he did promise 3.0 GHz in a year. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Promise is one thing. Putting the product in the consumer's hands is totally another. They very well could show off a 3.0 dual G5 at WWDC but it won't be released I suspect until September or later.
 
Evan_11 said:
Single 2.2 - $1695
Dual 1.8 - $2195
Dual 2.2 - $2795
Dual 3.0 - $3495

Now the above makes sense. A water cooled dual 3.0 is going to cost a lot more to produce. There will however be enough people willing to pay for such an increase in performance. The other models won't require a redesign like the 3.0 model. Why haven't the 1.8 - 2.2 models already been released? Well obviously because 2.2 would be a pretty weak speed bump and Apple rather go all or nothing.
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The 3.0, yes, everything else, no. A dual does not cost that much more than a single, especially when the 90nm is much cheaper to produce. Apple was able to dual the 1.8 for only $100 MORE! Think about it. That was 5 months ago, and 5 months makes a big difference in costs. Ram is cheaper, video cards are cheaper, hard drives are cheaper!

Apple could easily put out a dual 2.2 dual 2.4 and dual 2.6 for $1999, $2499, and $2999. Especially when it doesn't cost as much to cool the 90nm G5 and and higher clocks speeds aren't that much more expensive to the producer. They are elevated to the consumer only!
 
If all dual...

Dual 1.8 - $1999
Dual 2.2 - $2499
Dual 2.6 - $2999
Dual 3.0 - $3499

Again these numbers make sense compared to those by that doofy french dude.
 
invaLPsion said:
The 3.0, yes, everything else, no. A dual does not cost that much more than a single, especially when the 90nm is much cheaper to produce. Apple was able to dual the 1.8 for only $100 MORE! Think about it. That was 5 months ago, and 5 months makes a big difference in costs. Ram is cheaper, video cards are cheaper, hard drives are cheaper!

Apple could easily put out a dual 2.2 dual 2.4 and dual 2.6 for $1999, $2499, and $2999. Especially when it doesn't cost as much to cool the 90nm G5 and and higher clocks speeds aren't that much more expensive to the producer. They are elevated to the consumer only!
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Not until WWDC at least. Again there is no way that Apple will sell you a 2.2 dual G5 and 23" Cinema Display for $3500. Not a chance in hell. Don't tell me you've been waiting 5 years for a update with your iMac DV... Obviously you're not much of a power user.
 
Evan_11 said:
Dual 1.8 - $1999
Dual 2.2 - $2499
Dual 2.6 - $2999
Dual 3.0 - $3499

Again these numbers make sense compared to those by that doofy french dude.
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At that price it sounds like I won't be getting a Dual 3.0. Also that would be a Rev. A? Would be best to wait, maybe the price would decrease.
 
Evan_11 said:
Dual 1.8 - $1999
Dual 2.2 - $2499
Dual 2.6 - $2999
Dual 3.0 - $3499

Again these numbers make sense compared to those by that doofy french dude.
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I just don't think Apple would have a set-up that spread out in terms of processor speed. THERE WILL BE UPDATES BEFORE WWDC.
 
invaLPsion said:
THERE WILL BE UPDATES BEFORE WWDC.
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I agree . . . I'm betting the G5's and new displays come at NAB with new G4 Powerbook's, G5 iMac's, and G4 iBook's all at WWDC. Furthermore, I do not believe we'll see a 3.0 Ghz G5 regardless of what so many claim was a promise by Steve Jobs last year. The switch to the 90nm process for the G5's will bring some speed, but why would they restrict the xServes to 2 Ghz if they could crank out faster ones . . .

Either way, I'm waiting for new goods and I'm going to need someone to talk me down from spending way too much money. I purchased an 800 Mhz G3 iBook awhile back to see if I was brave enough to switch. Between that awesome little notebook and a 10 gig 3rd gen iPod I was so impressed with Apple's quality products . . . let's just say it's time for me to go big on a Powermac. :)
 
Brilliant Savings...

How do you explain the Brilliant Savings promotion ending June 26th then? Unless they end it early there is no way they'll be offering a Powermac that is equal to the current high end for $1999. They are also bound to introduce new displays at the same time. Apple is a business something which you guys don't understand.

Dense.
 
segundo said:
The switch to the 90nm process for the G5's will bring some speed, but why would they restrict the xServes to 2 Ghz if they could crank out faster ones . . .
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Duff-Man says.....perhaps because the G5 towers have a *lot* more space for keeping the heat down. Putting the G5's (even the 90nm ones) inside that small rack is going to be a challenge to keep the heat down enough.

I certainly glad I have a good deal of patience....I am looking at a G5 tower this "spring" (or whenever) and I must admit, this latest rumour of the specs is enticing and if they turn out to be true I know I will place an order immediately - the timing and final price points will determine if that order is for the mid or top line.....oh yeah!
 
Duff-Man said:
Duff-Man says.....perhaps because the G5 towers have a *lot* more space for keeping the heat down. Putting the G5's (even the 90nm ones) inside that small rack is going to be a challenge to keep the heat down enough.
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There might be something else. If they would have introduced the Xserve at a higher speed than 2 Ghz, people would have expected the Powermac updates to be immediately (or soon to be) introduced as well. At the time they introduced the new Xserve they probably already knew they needed more time to get the Rev-B Powermacs out.

Also there was the little slip in the website, that said 2.3 Ghz Xserve in the HTML-source. This might not say anything, but it could also be a indication that they originally planned to introduce the Xserve at that speed, but could not due to the Powermacs taking more time than anticipated.
 
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