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I have an iPhone 6 with third party replaced display. Will apple accept it or will consider as screen damaged? The phone is otherwise working fine
 
Short of lowering the phone price, iPhone Upgrade Program should be restructured for mass majority.

Currently, iPhone Upgrade Program lets you upgrade yearly while paying monthly price that is essentially retail price + AppleCare+, divided by 24 months:
  • iPhone XR:$37.41/month
  • iPhone XS: $49.91/month
  • iPhone XS Max: $54.08/month
I would restructure the plan that spreads payment over 48 months, allowing 1 upgrade every 2 years, making AppleCare+ optional (I can use my credit card's Mobile Protection Plan). The price then becomes:
  • iPhone XR: $15.61/month
  • iPhone XS: $20.81/month
  • iPhone XS Max: $22.90/month

I have been arguing that Apple should offer iPhone and its Ecosystem as Services for YEARS. For a Monthly Fees you get iPhone + Same iPhone Storage Size Backup ( All you Data will always lives in iCloud by default), with Optional AppleCare+, Apple Music, Apple TV. Actually one of the reason Apple should bundled AppleCare is because it is a high margin Services, which will offset the Interest lost in payment spreads, along with fees make to partners who are actually doing the Financing. ( Barclays in UK, CitzenOne in US )

And by offering choices of 2, 3 and 4 years cycle, they could lock in the customer with the free upgrade during those cycle, which then resets the circle again. And it can't be easily copied by its smaller competitor, where they are tight on cash flow to operate.

No longer will Wall Street judge Apple on its unit sold per quarter, and worry about people switching to other brand. iPhone as a Services will bring a similar Moat as Windows and Office to Microsoft. Then Apple could finally enjoy a P/E that is over 20.

Now you may ask how is that different to the current Carrier model. Well customers are willing to pay for Apple, but not as much for their mobile network. Example, Free iPhone with $100 dollar contract, they think the contract is expensive. $50 iPhone Services, worth it, then pays the $50 monthly fees. Not to mention Apple earn more with their Retail Selling Price instead of giving Wholesale discount to Carriers.

The problem with iPhone Subscription Model, it will break all the good relationship Apple have built with Carrier. But so far it doesn't seems to be a problem in US and UK. Again like I said in the Apple Pay thread, Services like these are very slow at rolling out from Apple.
 
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I have been arguing that Apple should offer iPhone and its Ecosystem as Services for YEARS. For a Monthly Fees you get iPhone + Same iPhone Storage Size Backup ( All you Data will always lives in iCloud by default), with Optional AppleCare+, Apple Music, Apple TV. Actually one of the reason Apple should bundled AppleCare is because it is a high margin Services, which will offset the Interest lost in payment spreads, along with fees make to partners who are actually doing the Financing. ( Barclays in UK, CitzenOne in US )

And by offering choices of 2, 3 and 4 years cycle, they could lock in the customer with the free upgrade during those cycle, which then resets the circle again. And it can't be easily copied by its smaller competitor, where they are tight on cash flow to operate.

No longer will Wall Street judge Apple on its unit sold per quarter, and worry about people switching to other brand. iPhone as a Services will bring a similar Moat as Windows and Office to Microsoft. Then Apple could finally enjoy a P/E that is over 20.

Now you may ask how is that different to the current Carrier model. Well customers are willing to pay for Apple, but not as much for their mobile network. Example, Free iPhone with $100 dollar contract, they think the contract is expensive. $50 iPhone Services, worth it, then pays the $50 monthly fees. Not to mention Apple earn more with their Retail Selling Price instead of giving Wholesale discount to Carriers.

The problem with iPhone Subscription Model, it will break all the good relationship Apple have built with Carrier. But so far it doesn't seems to be a problem in US and UK. Again like I said in the Apple Pay thread, Services like these are very slow at rolling out from Apple.

Hardware as a service? I guess as the saying goes, a fool and his money are soon parted.
 
And the ugliest with those huge bezels, ugly antenna lines and cheap aluminum.
Did you characterize the 6/6S phones this way when they came out?
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I still have a 6 Plus and prefer it to the new glass bricks.

I don't see the lines or the aluminium with the case on but I would prefer that style even without the case. Each to their own.

Apple offered me £75 for mine which is about half of what I could get elsewhere. So, top dollar prices for new devices and rock bottom trade in prices.
It is becoming true. Apple, by releasing defective products over the last several years, is starting to undermine its traditional great resell advantage. It takes a while, but with portless laptops and defective keyboards, jackless phones, and the like, used Apple products aren't as appealing as they once were. Perhaps further price hikes due to tariffs will give a spike to used Apple products for a period.
 
If I wanted to, I could have got a gift card for over $200 from BF sale at the 3rd party retailers and still get to keep my iP6 which still works fine. I chose to skip the purchase and probably wait to see what's new for next year.
 
I see all rumored measures by apple as a good thing.
This doesn’t mean the end for apple.
All this means that apple is becoming less dependent on their shareholders, etc by breaking with the common numbers like asp, etc that are used by the stock market to measure their success and all the publicity that surrounds it.
By being less transparent they have created more room for themselves to adjust prices, margins, etc without hell breaking loose, and with less pressure from the stock holders, etc, whilst being very profitable by adding more services, wearables , and other new products, and offer the products at cheaper prices for us, the customer.

One Big Bang now, but in the end everyone will adjust.
 
Ease of trade in. Some people don't want to deal with an independent buyer. People have been robbed through Craigslist. Some aren't aware they can. For many it's not worth the extra time required (I can tell you I get paid more per hour than the extra money I'd make going through a private sale, dealing with meeting up, the bargaining, etc).

There are a lot of reasons people choose not to bother.
That’s just it, this is easy and you don’t have to worry about scams. There are so many now. $200 for a used iPhone 6s isn’t a bad deal IMO. My mom is actually going to do this with her 6s.
 
Apple really put themselves in a pickle. By selling an iPhone for $1000+, Apple couldn’t possibly offer a similar iPhone for $500, so they were stuck with a $750 price point. Then to top it off, cellular providers are not subsidizing the phones anymore like they did from iPhone 3G through iPhone 6S. This is iPhone 2007 all over again. Apple remember when Steve cut the price?

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/07/technology/07apple.html

Take a page from your history, cut your price on the new iPhones and work with carriers to bring back subsidized iPhones on 2 year contracts. Sales will turn around really fast.
 
You can sell an iPhone 6 for $300? Or a 6s plus for $500? Show me who’s buying at those prices please. I have a couple of phones that I would ansolutely part with for $800.
I parted with my 7 Plus 256GB for a lot more than Apple is willing to give. A lot more.
 
300 for a 1 year old iPhone 8, shows you how much these phones are over inflated. Can't wait to see how much my iPhone Xs Max (256GB $1249) is worth next year. I am going to go out on a limb and say not anywhere north of $400
 
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Everyone I know is getting the XR. I'm a bit baffled sales are supposedly slow/low on these.
You must run around with a select set of people. I have yet to even see an XR among people I know or see. OTOH, I still see 6, 6s, and 7 models frequently. The X is rarely seen; X* not at all, yet. It's also my experience that most folks with Macs still own the ones with the lit up Apple logo, so at least a few years old. Just my experience, though.
 
Motivated by this promo, I picked up my new XS max without contract.

From readng MacRumors I half expected the XS max to be full of defects with poor cellular reception.

The phone is great. I should have bought this phone earlier, with or without the promo.

I’m going to send in my wife’s 7 plus and get her the XS max, too.
 
I AM getting a new overpriced Apple phone? I AM staying loyal to the brand? Give me at the VERY least what I could get on the resale market!! Seems fair to me.......but what does TC know about fair!
 
Primarily because that isn’t Apple’s base. Their main customers are so wealthy that This is kind of viewed as an instant rebate in their eyes. Give up my former phone which I have no use for, save $100. Most uppity folk aren’t gonna want to put in the time and effort of dealing with craigslist strangers.

Ima be like uppity for two-fifty yo!
 
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