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Apple promotes gaming on new 13" MBP (LOL)

The Final Cut said:
ahh, doom 3 and quake 4 are very very demanding games considering their release date. I think its fine to use them as an example, this is an ultraportable (imo) mac laptop were talking about, not a 7 pound windows one.
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Demanding????
Doom 3
System requirements
1.5 GHz CPU,
384 MB RAM,
64 MB video card

BTW which 7 pound 13 inch windows laptops are you talking about? I'm having a hard time finding them.

Isn't the fact they are using a game that was released in 2004 as a benchmark show that macs aren't really a gaming machine? And the fact that a good percentage of them are talking about boot camp?
 
ChronoIMG said:
7 pounds eh? http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/alienware-m11x?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&~ck=mn That machine will run circles around the 13" MBP in terms of raw performance.
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But... in all honesty, that laptop is HORRIBLE. Apple sells elegant computers that last a long time and work very well for most normal uses.

They are overpriced, yes. But they do give you an excellent product. They never intended on making gaming machines.

So far, my MacBook (4 years old) has outlasted the laptops of all my friends and family. Just the Thinkpads endure a similar time. All of the other laptops, Dell, HP, etc., turn ugly and fall apart very easily, judging by my experience so far.
 
ChronoIMG said:
7 pounds eh? http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/alienware-m11x?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&~ck=mn That machine will run circles around the 13" MBP in terms of raw performance.
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....but it's a Dell..... ;)

LOL whats the big fuss....???? If you're buying a Mac for gaming, youre not doing it right! You can play on Macs but if gaming is numero uno you're getting a PC! Simple isn't it? If Mac's couldn't handle gaming, I'm sure Steam would've ignored the market. But they didnt. Listen Mac's arent the best for gaming, oviously but all you girls are arguing in circles, its silly. How about just enjoy what you have and what you use to play??? sheesh
 
HarryPot said:
So far, my MacBook (4 years old) has outlasted the laptops of all my friends and family. Just the Thinkpads endure a similar time. All of the other laptops, Dell, HP, etc., turn ugly and fall apart very easily, judging by my experience so far.
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Im a PC and a Mac all in one! But I will say, every Dell or SONY I owned, always fell apart. Key fall off, case cracks, Apple's are built well! That is for sure! But some of my PC's/Laptop have had better specs than some mac's its give and take really.
 
manub said:
Wonder if it can run a WoW WotLK 25-men raid at medium settings...
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Wtf? The earlier 13" unibody could do this on high settings. WoW is 7 year old technology made to run on 10 year old computers, thats how blizzard works and its great.
 
True. The 13" Unibody Macbook (before it was changed to the Pro), could handle WoW's higher end stuff with no major effort. WoW was made for much older technologies than that.

What's amazing is how well the 2009 13" Macbook pro could handle even newer games. Though obviously not with the highest settings, but a good medium. Dragon Age, Star Trek Online (probably one of the more impressive showings of the 13" power under the hood), etc. It's actually wierd on how it outperforms the Gateway P6831-FX machine, with some of these newer games. Of course, it's about 2 years newer than that machine, but the gateway did have a dedicated 8800 Nvidia graphics chip.

Still, the 13" is no gaming machine. However, for quite a few games, it can handle its own. It wasn't that long ago when the difference between a gaming machine and one that wasn't was that *only* the gaming machine could play these games. The bar has been raised for non-gaming machines to have access to a majority of them and be able to play them at settings that don't mean they're looking at a slide show.
 
Jarcrew said:
Well, when Steam comes out, I think that's going to change things substantially.

Team Fortress 2 runs on a 13" rather nicely, I know because I've seen it happen. It's not an Alienware tower but it gets you to the point where any deaths are your fault and not the hardware holding you back.

You only really need TF2 and Portal anyway. Any extra games are entirely superfluous.
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What kind of video settings do you run TF2 at and what framerates do you typically get? TF2 is the most demanding game that I play at the moment, so I want to get an idea on what performance i'll see on my first MBP (using Bootcamp).
 
iphone1105 said:
....but it's a Dell..... ;)

LOL whats the big fuss....???? If you're buying a Mac for gaming, youre not doing it right! You can play on Macs but if gaming is numero uno you're getting a PC! Simple isn't it? If Mac's couldn't handle gaming, I'm sure Steam would've ignored the market. But they didnt. Listen Mac's arent the best for gaming, oviously but all you girls are arguing in circles, its silly. How about just enjoy what you have and what you use to play??? sheesh
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Boot camp is the big fuss for me. If I actually wanted to look at a PC laptop and use Windows 7 all day I would, but I don't. I prefer Mac OS X for all my daily work, personal, etc. If I choose to play a game that won't run on OS X, I use Boot camp. Being limited by the lack of technology improvements in Apple's MacBook Pro line is disappointing if I want to play the newest, greatest game.

Back in the day I used a Performa to play Myth and Quake. I'm sick and tired of always having a Mac that just isn't "the best" from a hardware viewpoint. Apple could easily do it if "10 hour battery life" wasn't so important from a marketing perspective. 80% of the time I'm plugged into a monitor with the lid closed. I WANT POWER in my POWERBOOK! Oh wait...
 
Battery life is irrelevant on cesktops and Apple still ships junk GPUs in those, face it, Apple uses graphics as a way to increase profit margins, they'll chuck any old piece of crap card so long as it costs next to nothing.

What I can't understand though, is why they don't let us BTO our GPUs? That makes it seem almost like they actively want to stop us doing anything graphically demanding in our lives, like they're the Vatican and it's contraception.
 
D0rk said:
What kind of video settings do you run TF2 at and what framerates do you typically get? TF2 is the most demanding game that I play at the moment, so I want to get an idea on what performance i'll see on my first MBP (using Bootcamp).
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The only thing I run TF2 on is an Xbox, because my BlackBook has a roll of papyrus instead of a graphics card and I just can't get enough 5-year-old children - all of whom have names like "KxIxLxLxHxUxMxP" and "BuFF-F4GZ" and decide to play Sniper - shouting at me over the mic because they think the Spy's backstab is a hack.

But that aside, I've seen TF2 running on a MBP 13" with my own peepers - couldn't quite believe it, some guy had one at a cafe I was at in Manchester. I don't know if it was high settings, I'm assuming AA was off, but it was more than playable.

Counter Strike ran exceptionally on it, as well.
 
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