Nobody, I keep my stuff longterm typically. Macs are years old. Won't be recommending 16e though, whereas prior I would have recommended SE models.So who are you buying your tech from these days?
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Nobody, I keep my stuff longterm typically. Macs are years old. Won't be recommending 16e though, whereas prior I would have recommended SE models.So who are you buying your tech from these days?
You use Pro, so I guess you wouldn't buy 16E anyway.I can believe it, although I have mixed feelings. I don't wirelessly charge my 16 Pro but I do use MagSafe accessories like a pop socket. (If I had a battery pack it would likely be a MagSafe one but for now the 16 Pro gives me more than enough battery life.) And while MagSafe cases do exist I feel the charging speed is a bit slow.
It is very entertaing to read this threadIts definitely a nice-to-have, but the way some people go on about it you'd think that they had been using a Palm Pre for 12 years until the iPhone 12 came out just because of the magnets.
I’m not convinced there will be a direct replacement to the 16e next year.And what's their logic going to be when they do add it next year? Either they do that, or they double down on this model never having it. Which also doesn't make sense. It's just hurting their own ecosystem. MagSafe is still one of the main (increasingly very few) notable advantages that Android users envy.
Bingo!Of course people coming from an SE didn't use MagSafe. They didn't have it.
What makes you say that?The plug eventually wears out if you keep a phone for multiple years.
Bingo!
How is Apple luxury brand? Definitely isn't.Kind of strange for a luxury brand...
As I said in my previous post, yes I have often helped friends and family upgrade their Apple devices and given how expensive they have become, the budget models are often what they end up with.Have you bought any SE or not for yourself or your family? If you need Magsafe so much, buy a older phone, 14 or 15, simple.
I can tell you, you live in a tech bubble. Ask around older people with iPhone's if they use MagSafe, well ask anyone.Honestly they should just have said:
"It's a cheaper phone, so it has less features."
Because that's the only reason. Saying that it's because of the target audience is just PR trash, that really nobody believes.
You mean when intentions don't align with outcomes?This feels like a DEI paradox. Good one Apple.
But Apple in 2025 is still one of the very few companies that offer MagSafe at all, even though it became official requirement for full Qi2 certification. You're making a big of something that your family members wouldn't even notice/didn't care/didn't use.As I said in my previous post, yes I have often helped friends and family upgrade their Apple devices and given how expensive they have become, the budget models are often what they end up with.
I just don’t think it’s reasonable, in principal for Apple to be charging so much for a phone that is missing something which Apple have made standard across every new phone they’ve launched since the iPhone 14.
I can’t see why anyone would applaud Apple giving customers a poor deal, unless they’re a shareholder whose concern is purely profit margins.
The only real reason is to get more money out of people by pushing them to the regular 16.
No, the real reason is Apple's corporate culture of greed, and the up-sell.
I'd be all over a 16e mini with or without MagSafe, as I would just buy a case with magnets!This has nothing to do with saving manufacturing costs and everything to do with pushing buyers with previous investments in MagSafe accessories into a higher priced model.
I'm more disappointed Apple's budget phone isn't smaller. I'm hanging on to my 13 mini as long as I can.
there are so many iPhone features Apple ‘should’ omit by that argument. I specialise in IT support for older people - none of them I know use Apple intelligence so scrap that. Plenty don’t use Apple wallet, so scrap NFC.I can tell you, you live in a tech bubble. Ask around older people with iPhone's if they use MagSafe, well ask anyone.
And you’te missing the point.But Apple in 2025 is still one of the very few companies that offer MagSafe at all, even though it became official requirement for full Qi2 certification. You're making a big of something that your family members wouldn't even notice/didn't care/didn't use.
How do they know? What? That is a terrible answer
Apple has offered a reason why the iPhone 16e doesn't include MagSafe, one of the more notable omissions from its latest entry-level smartphone.
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According to Apple representatives who spoke to Daring Fireball's John Gruber, MagSafe is not included in the iPhone 16e because "most people in the iPhone 16e's target audience exclusively charge their phones by plugging them into a charging cable."
These users apparently tend not to use wireless charging at all, and when they do use it, Apple believes the slower 7.5W Qi charging speed compared to MagSafe's faster rates isn't a deciding factor for the customer segment it is targeting with the more affordable device.
Introduced with the iPhone 12 lineup in 2020, MagSafe uses magnets embedded in the back of compatible iPhones to align wireless chargers and attach accessories. The technology allows for faster wireless charging (up to 15W on most models and 25W on newer Pro models) compared to standard Qi wireless charging, which is limited to 7.5W on iPhones.
Apple has developed a whole ecosystem of MagSafe accessories including cases, wallets, battery packs, and mounts. The magnetic alignment ensures an optimal charging position and makes attaching accessories more convenient.
When the iPhone 16e was announced, there was some speculation that its new C1 modem might have interfered with MagSafe functionality, but Apple has already confirmed that this wasn't the case. Backing up Apple's claim, a prominent iPhone case manufacturer also told MacRumors that its testing confirmed that MagSafe cases don't impact the C1 modem's performance.
The iPhone 16e continues the trend set by its predecessor, the now-discontinued iPhone SE, which also lacked MagSafe connectivity. However, the 16e is the first iPhone in Apple's flagship smartphone lineup to omit this feature since its introduction. For users who prefer the convenience of MagSafe, some third-party iPhone 16e cases include built-in magnets, but they won't enable faster charging speeds.
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Interestingly, IT Home reports that Apple retail stores have had to create a workaround for displaying the iPhone 16e with wireless charging that prevents the device from slipping off its display dock. Apple is using a special docking station that includes a bottom groove that holds the device upright, enabling wireless charging during demonstrations. This custom dock only activates charging when the phone is placed vertically – if you place it horizontally, the iPhone falls off.
Apple's decision to exclude MagSafe from the iPhone 16e may be a cost-cutting measure. But as Gruber notes, "I think Apple knows the 16e's intended audience better than I do," suggesting the company has done its market research on what features matter most to the target buyers of this device.
Article Link: Apple Provides Reason for iPhone 16e's Lack of MagSafe
I had my 8-plus for 7 years… what exactly do you mean "wears out" because it still charges just fine.The plug eventually wears out if you keep a phone for multiple years.