I'm pretty sure that's the case for her. Not everyone is "natural" at smiling, it looks horribly forced as others have said.
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I'm pretty sure that's the case for her. Not everyone is "natural" at smiling, it looks horribly forced as others have said.
Yeah it was. Macworld SF 2000 keynote. Steve introduced the mac.com e-mail, iCards, and web services at that keynote along with Mac OS X and Aqua interface. I would know, I was there!!
Completely apart from whether it is acceptable adult behavior to comment on someone's appearance, a person has to wonder why anyone would sign up for MR just to post such an obviously incorrect statement.
Well then you were at a different conference to the rest of the world. iTools was introduced in 2000.
.Mac didn't appear until 2002.
Thanks for the random reminiscence. Presumably you kowtow to someone else now. What happened?
Next time we have a discussion over Tim Cook or Carl Ichan I do hope you are this critical when the discussions over their pictures start (And they always do), otherwise you are a damn sexist hypocrite.
No next time required. You need only look at those threads, especially the Icahn discussions. So please keep your accusations to yourself.
I wasn't kowtowing to anyone at the time. I suppose that was the one benefit of freelancing. The market for tech freelance dried up by around 2005, to the point where it wouldn't pay without syndication, and that takes a lot more time and effort than I was prepared to go through. It was really just a sideline to my other work anyway. But I did get to a lot of MWSF Expos, and a good seat for the keynotes, and so forth. I also learned a lot about writing for journalism. It was fun while it lasted.
FWIW- Every time I see an article about Jony Ive with the headshot MR uses, I think "Man, that's a crappy, unhappy-looking photo of him". Doesn't diminish my admiration of his immense talents. Just a distraction.
Besides, this article wasn't that interesting so the bad photo took over the focus. That's all it was and nothing to get all up in arms about.
Besides, this article wasn't that interesting so the bad photo took over the focus. That's all it was and nothing to get all up in arms about.
Well, genius, at the time all it said was "Whoever took this photo should be fired!"
There was nothing else. He added that later.
There's a lot of psychological/sociological factors, many of which are unconsciously embedded in all of us through inculcation, and few if any of which I'm sure you'd understand. People like you never have any subtlety.
It's not my first account, I've been here since 2006. I deleted my old account a couple of years ago because I found the intellectual dishonesty of shrill fanboys too annoying.
Which you are amply proving by quoting me out of context, and ignoring what I actually said. Good job!
Since many people were in fact commenting on her appearance, your statement was in fact entirely incorrect.
You might want to be a little more careful about what you think is amply proven.
After several pages of yammering, one guy said, as an aside, that she is attractive. Don't pretend that this is what you were referring to.
Saying that her expression in the photo is inappropriate for a publicity headshot is not a comment on her "appearance", and does not objectify her any more than telling Eddy Cue to tuck his damn shirt in on stage is objectifying him.
EDIT: It's still amply proven that this place is lousy with intellectually dishonest blowhards. I repeat - you ignored the body of my post in order to win pedantry points.
I'm trying to figure out why this is any better than a sexist statement, It's simply prejudice based on a different attribute than gender. In fact it also presumes that a computer nerd is male. BTW, as soon as the photo below is used in a article here, several people comment on it.
I personally find that photo hilarious, it's the innocent teddy bear look of this activist investor that does it.
Wow, this is becoming bizarre. No, I responded to the substance of your claim, which was wrong. I also made no reference to anyone being objectified. In any given thread on these boards that includes a photo of a person, man or woman, we can count on any number of juvenile and pointless comments on the person's appearance.
Your post was a single line with no "body" to "ignore." Before accusing anyone else of being a blowhard, you might take a look in the mirror.
Hit it? Then you must be older than me. And I'm 108.
Really, it's the insincere smile that gets me. Soulless. The 'professional smile'. Showing teeth =/= smile. At least try and appear human.
"I'd still hit that" is much more degrading than anything anyone has said about her headshot.
who ever took her headshot should be fired.
Edit: To quell all of the people that for some reason said my comments were sexist. Even though I didn't mention her gender or looks at all
Why this picture is bad:
1. It's a forced smile any good photographer can get a person to show their true relaxed smile and or look. Believe me I suffer from the same problem
2. It's shot upward just a tiny bit, which is never flattering.
3. The picture is too hard, too small of an aperture, or over processing. it should have been shot wide open 5.6 or 2.8 maybe even 1.2/1.8
4. ^ which is why there is some type of motion blur or focusing issues around the eyes. can't figure out what is wrong, but something is off
5. She's smiling in one direction and looking in another. Some simple composition could fix that.
6. I'd think that Apple would have better photographers at their disposal.
For the record she looks pretty to me, just poorly photographed.
yes. this. absolutely.
It doesn't matter if it's a girl, or a guy, or a woman, or a man, or a queer, or any sexual orientation you'd like to bring up. IT JUST MATTERS THAT IT'S NOT A GREAT PHOTO.
Any decent photographer would put her at ease and not leave her with a headshot that looks like she's being forced to smile during an extremely uncomfortable situation...
You guys all have friends. what would you do if they looked at you like this when you made a joke?
you'd wonder what was wrong, right?