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Apple Public Relations Vice President Katie Cotton to Retire
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Much of the time with corporate photos they're set up wherever there is room and the executives are available. They aren't always under great circumstances, especially when it comes to controlling lighting. A lot of corporate headshots look terrible for that reason. I don't personally care whether it looks attractive, but it should be a good representation of the person. I don't really care for this one, and it's not just the reasons already given. The very broad catch lights and lack of cleanup on the eyes (scleras overly warm) make her look less focused and too glassy eyed. It's better if she holds the gaze of the viewer.
The day any of you start working for Apple, in any really meaningful position, is the day I truly lose all hope for the company.
How would they work when there's a whole internets to "prove wrong"? Where'd they find the time inbetween arguments? LOL
http://www.fakesteve.net/2010/11/woz-please-start-mincing-words.html
From The Secret Diary of Steve Jobs:
Woz did an interview with Dutch newspaper in which he said lots of ridiculous **** including his spaced-out projection that Android will eventually become the dominant mobile platform. Somehow the boneheads at AOL/TechCrunch managed to translate the article from Flemish into English so they could run a post about it. Weve told Woz, a million times, that if he wants to do an interview he needs to sit down with Katie first so she can tell him what to say. Its pretty easy stuff, mostly along the lines of, Yeah, its so exciting to see Apple doing so well and making such amazing products, and, if asked anything specific, Yeah, I really dont know anything about that, and I dont have any opinions on anything, and it wouldnt make sense for me to speculate on a hypothetical.
Thats our standard media training and Woz knows it, but he just goes off the reservation, again and again and again, and I cant tell you how many times Ive reminded him that hes still officially listed as an Apple employee and bound by same code of silence as everyone else. He just laughs.
The larger question is why on earth do reporters still care to interview Woz? He hasnt actually worked here in 30 years. Why do people think he has some kind of special ability to project the future when it comes to mobile phone platforms? The last thing Woz made was the Apple II. It was a fine machine in its day but in the context of todays mobile devices its a friggin toy.
Nevertheless, heres Woz, spouting off, and and now its everywhere. Business Insider wrote it up. Then Engadget gleefully joins in, saying that Woz has never been one to mince words.
Dear Woz: Please start mincing words. Or I swear to friggin God, Katie will come over there and mince your nuts.
From The Secret Diary of Steve Jobs:
Woz did an interview with Dutch newspaper in which he said lots of ridiculous **** including his spaced-out projection that Android will eventually become the dominant mobile platform. Somehow the boneheads at AOL/TechCrunch managed to translate the article from Flemish into English so they could run a post about it. Weve told Woz, a million times, that if he wants to do an interview he needs to sit down with Katie first so she can tell him what to say. Its pretty easy stuff, mostly along the lines of, Yeah, its so exciting to see Apple doing so well and making such amazing products, and, if asked anything specific, Yeah, I really dont know anything about that, and I dont have any opinions on anything, and it wouldnt make sense for me to speculate on a hypothetical.
Thats our standard media training and Woz knows it, but he just goes off the reservation, again and again and again, and I cant tell you how many times Ive reminded him that hes still officially listed as an Apple employee and bound by same code of silence as everyone else. He just laughs.
The larger question is why on earth do reporters still care to interview Woz? He hasnt actually worked here in 30 years. Why do people think he has some kind of special ability to project the future when it comes to mobile phone platforms? The last thing Woz made was the Apple II. It was a fine machine in its day but in the context of todays mobile devices its a friggin toy.
Nevertheless, heres Woz, spouting off, and and now its everywhere. Business Insider wrote it up. Then Engadget gleefully joins in, saying that Woz has never been one to mince words.
Dear Woz: Please start mincing words. Or I swear to friggin God, Katie will come over there and mince your nuts.
How did this thread end up about a women's photo, then about a women who served Apple well and is retiring?
Specifically, the first poster, NachoGrande made a point about the poor quality of her photograph, which was the first thing I noticed as well. Then NachoGrande got attacked for such a post. Thus the conversation. To be honest, Katie Cotton does not look too well and I hope she is in good health, both physically and emotionally. If she is not, I hope she gets well soon. Either way, as a Mac fan, I thank her for her work on behalf of people such as myself.
Secondarily, unless the photographer was female and also quit after that bad photo got published, there was only 1... woman. I can't find women with an "e" to be singular form in any dictionary, online or otherwise.
Really? She's pretty.
Also, gz on being sexist
This is why people can't take the 'you're racist/sexist' whiners like you seriously. You call people a name due to emotions and never use a logical argument. That guy had a very nice, laid out argument as to why the photo is bad.
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What's interesting is how SJWs will use any reason, even illogical ones with no basis on reality, to cry racism/sexism. The picture is not good. It was entirely forced. Cry some more.
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The only inappropriate gender comments have so far been from you. You seem to be trying to start a flame war by bashing nerds and accusing people of being sexist.
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Pardon the competitor's photo
Katie Cotton photo from 9to5 Mac:
Genuine smile.
Looks healthy.
Looks happy.
Looks cheerful.
Looks like the kind of executive I would love to work for.
Perhaps MacRumors should have scoured longer for a better photo to use.
http://9to5mac.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/cotton-and-the-boss.jpg?w=700&h=525
Katie Cotton photo from 9to5 Mac:
Genuine smile.
Looks healthy.
Looks happy.
Looks cheerful.
Looks like the kind of executive I would love to work for.
Perhaps MacRumors should have scoured longer for a better photo to use.
http://9to5mac.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/cotton-and-the-boss.jpg?w=700&h=525
I'll only say this one thing and that will be it. It's something I always notice about the liberal SJWs.
On topic like the one about Tim Cook, there were literally pages and pages of people talking about his awful forced smile. No mention of anything.
On the Carl Icahn topic, we had pages and pages of people freaked out over how horrible he looked. Again, no mention of sexism, but I do believe someone called him dracula.
Page 1 of this topic, same responses, and out come the SJWs to call people sexist due to it being a woman. Same responses, same argument, only difference is it's a woman. And this is when the SJW's respond.
It should be painfully obvious who the real sexists are. Because while they call others sexist, they also spend their time bashing 'nerds'. Because obviously, if you feel like somebody is being mistreated, mistreating others is the answer.
On topic like the one about Tim Cook, there were literally pages and pages of people talking about his awful forced smile. No mention of anything.
On the Carl Icahn topic, we had pages and pages of people freaked out over how horrible he looked. Again, no mention of sexism, but I do believe someone called him dracula.
Page 1 of this topic, same responses, and out come the SJWs to call people sexist due to it being a woman. Same responses, same argument, only difference is it's a woman. And this is when the SJW's respond.
It should be painfully obvious who the real sexists are. Because while they call others sexist, they also spend their time bashing 'nerds'. Because obviously, if you feel like somebody is being mistreated, mistreating others is the answer.
who ever took her headshot should be fired.
Edit: To quell all of the people that for some reason said my comments were sexist. Even though I didn't mention her gender or looks at all
Why this picture is bad:
1. It's a forced smile any good photographer can get a person to show their true relaxed smile and or look. Believe me I suffer from the same problem
2. It's shot upward just a tiny bit, which is never flattering.
3. The picture is too hard, too small of an aperture, or over processing. it should have been shot wide open 5.6 or 2.8 maybe even 1.2/1.8
4. ^ which is why there is some type of motion blur or focusing issues around the eyes. can't figure out what is wrong, but something is off
5. She's smiling in one direction and looking in another. Some simple composition could fix that.
6. I'd think that Apple would have better photographers at their disposal.
For the record she looks pretty to me, just poorly photographed.
I agree with you that its not a good picture (could be just a security photo rather than an external use headshot), and also your defence against those jumping on your comment. Its pretty clear what you were referring to (i.e. photography rather than subject).
But, I think the main issue is the composition - its not a standard headshot (should go down a little further). Also, studio photographers dont really use large apertures as, with a controlled background and lighting, its unnecessary. The aim for studio portraits is to have all of the features in focus. Most standard studo shots, especially for professional use, would be done at F8, unless you are looking for some kind of artistic effect.
I can see you like your baloney thinly sliced.
You are just plain wrong. Plenty of us fire back at the snotty comments made about the photos of those other people. It doesn't have to be called sexism to be called out as stupidity. People always have their reasons for this sort of thing, and none of them are good. That would be the take-away, for those who aren't trying to make some other kind of point.
Katie seems to be the woman standing by Steve in this rather awkward fan encounter:
http://youtu.be/KscYtJH988E
http://youtu.be/KscYtJH988E
BS. Go read the threads about Tim Cook or even Jony Ive. Heck, I remember comments about Forstall's crazy eyes and Mansfield's weight, too.
Yeah, but see, that's exactly what was happening. The guy was criticizing the photographer for what the photographer did, not Katie Cotton for her skin color or attractiveness.
Whoa there.
Scrolling down the page the first thing I see is a very awkward photo. This is how images work in the news. I don't care if it's a man or a woman. I was going to point out, or at least upvote a comment that mentioned how bad the photo is. Nothing to do with my view on women, bub. (my fiancee and I both run a games studio and we were interviewed for a documentary about women in the games industry due to the feminist/equality tones in our games. So to do what I came here to do: )
What an awkward smile!
Yup...
Spot on comment. She looks more to be grimacing in pain than happy.
who ever took her headshot should be fired.
Edit: To quell all of the people that for some reason said my comments were sexist. Even though I didn't mention her gender or looks at all
Why this picture is bad:
1. It's a forced smile any good photographer can get a person to show their true relaxed smile and or look. Believe me I suffer from the same problem
2. It's shot upward just a tiny bit, which is never flattering.
3. The picture is too hard, too small of an aperture, or over processing. it should have been shot wide open 5.6 or 2.8 maybe even 1.2/1.8
4. ^ which is why there is some type of motion blur or focusing issues around the eyes. can't figure out what is wrong, but something is off
5. She's smiling in one direction and looking in another. Some simple composition could fix that.
6. I'd think that Apple would have better photographers at their disposal.
For the record she looks pretty to me, just poorly photographed.
Spot on comment. She looks more to be grimacing in pain than happy.
Nice catch, now that is a much better photo. Still not a good shot, but way better that what was posted.
It's interesting to see how social justice warriors are only able to see criticism of appearance as objectification.
People are criticizing the photo, not the person. If anyone thinks this sort of "I look like I'm about to be beheaded by off-screen terrorists" fake smile is appropriate for an official headshot, they need to visit an optometrist.
And I seem to remember people making fun of Eddy Cue's shirt during the latest keynote.
Really? She's pretty.
Also, gz on being sexist
Being pretty has nothing to do with whether the picture is good or not.
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You may have to admit not having a keen eye for photography then.
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who ever took her headshot should be fired.
Edit: To quell all of the people that for some reason said my comments were sexist. Even though I didn't mention her gender or looks at all
Why this picture is bad:
1. It's a forced smile any good photographer can get a person to show their true relaxed smile and or look. Believe me I suffer from the same problem
2. It's shot upward just a tiny bit, which is never flattering.
3. The picture is too hard, too small of an aperture, or over processing. it should have been shot wide open 5.6 or 2.8 maybe even 1.2/1.8
4. ^ which is why there is some type of motion blur or focusing issues around the eyes. can't figure out what is wrong, but something is off
5. She's smiling in one direction and looking in another. Some simple composition could fix that.
6. I'd think that Apple would have better photographers at their disposal.
For the record she looks pretty to me, just poorly photographed.
Maybe Macrumours didn't have enough money to pay for the good shots... took the leftovers for cheap.
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gave her life to Apple... poor thing..
No one is commenting on her goddamn appearance.
They're commenting on what a terrible professional photo this is. The existence of which is at least tangentially relevant to her professional career as a VP of Public Relations.
If this was a picture of her with a shoe on her head, and anyone dared comment, you'd still cry sexism.
Yeah but not everyone who takes bad pictures shares them with the whole world.
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After the 80s/90s mantra, let me ask why do you need more female employees when men can simply get in touch with their feminine side?