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That's because some of us actually are pros with pro D-SLRS. I guess most of us might not be so bothered about this sort of flare as we would NEVER take such rubbish shots like the ones you're using as examples.

you hear the swoooosh sound? that totally flew over your head, Mr. Ijustbecameaprophotographertoday :)
 
i like how all of a sudden everyone's either a 30yr pro photographer or has a pro DSLR with $2k lens..

4 vs 5, the lens flare turned purple for no reason, i guess this is normal, and the 4 just had a worse camera that didn't produce the purple flare. And yet all your 50 grand cameras produced the purple flare.

Pro tip: throw your pro dslr cameras away and grab a iphone 4!!

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sincerely,

-Joseph Nicéphore Niépce

I'm trying to figure this out myself.

I've never had this problem with my dSLR's OR my point-and-shoot digitals.

Actually, I've never had this problem with my 3GS or original iPhone either... :eek:
 
I'm trying to figure this out myself.

I've never had this problem with my dSLR's OR my point-and-shoot digitals.

Actually, I've never had this problem with my 3GS or original iPhone either... :eek:

Dude, that's cuz your DSLRs and your point-and-shoots aren't expensive enough!! If they were half as good as the iphone 5's, and if you were a pro photographer, they would show the purple blur of awesomeness!!
 
I can't believe someone calling themselves a pro just criticised the sample pics posted by Joseph without addressing the fact that in identical circumstances the iPhone 5 has ugly purple flaring and the iPhone 4 is white (which reflects my experience).

I'm about to buy a 5 and I want to know if this is an issue for all of them b
 
I can't believe someone calling themselves a pro just criticised the sample pics posted by Joseph without addressing the fact that in identical circumstances the iPhone 5 has ugly purple flaring and the iPhone 4 is white (which reflects my experience).

I'm about to buy a 5 and I want to know if this is an issue for all of them b

fyi, this issue isn't consistent across all iphone 5s. My friend's gf's doesn't exhibit this behavior.
 
MVRL - interesting. I wonder where it is picking up the colour, from the lens itself or some sort of internal reflection from a component which is differently coloured in some iPhone 5s.
 
You could be the best photographer or w/e, which you obviously aren't, but apparently you don't know jack about this issue and you have your head buried so far up Apple's behind. I am sorry.

I provided a sample comparison between the 5 and the 4. Being the pro photographer you claim to be, you not only couldn't provide a solid explanation about the issue, you resorted to personal attacks about how the shots were taken. I am sorry, you deserve no respect.

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sincerely,

-Joseph Nicéphore Niépce
 
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iPhone 5 Lens-flare "Non"-issue

Chromatic aberration and lens flare exist in every camera and every lens. It depends on how you take the photo. If you look at the screen and don't like what you see, change the angle or position of the camera. This is called composing a picture.

Thanks for the photography 101 lesson Stephen123 - many people seem to have either skipped that part or need a refresher course. Lens-flaring is an optical "artifact" that occurs when light passes through various lens elements. It is so ubiquitous in both still-photography and motion-pictures that it's often added in digital post-production to shots that lack it. Various filters/plug-ins can be purchased for Photoshop and digital-video editing systems like Final Cut, Avid, Premiere, etc. that can add an infinite variety of pre-composed or customized lens-flares for esthetic effect. They are especially useful in CGI (computer generated imagery) to add "realism" to images that were not captured through a lens.

On the flip-side, there are hundreds of lens-shade products for camera lenses that range in price from just a few, to thousands of dollars, for use when lens-flares are problematic or esthetically unpleasing. Generally speaking, smaller, wider and faster (f/stop) lenses are more prone to flare - these are the types of lenses that are commonly incorporated into cell-phones and lipstick size cameras.

Rest assured that the iPhone 5, 8-megapixel camera with sapphire-crystal lens is astonishing in its capabilities. It will record "pixel for pixel, 1920x1080-Progressive scanned video images that can rival professional, broadcast-level cameras - when used properly. Shooting directly or almost directly into a bright, concentrated light source is not proper-use for almost any camera, unless you are intentionally doing so to create a desired, esthetic effect.

Take a look at the links below and you'll start to appreciate the significance and depth of the technology and artistry of this well-understood lens-flare phenomena when light interacts with a lens. Note also the full-resolution quality of the sample still-photos shown in the last link.

http://www.redgiantsoftware.com/products/all/knoll-light-factory/

http://www.shutterbug.com/content/knoll-light-factory-photoshop-creative-lens-flare-your-images

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/Matte-Boxes/ci/16498/N/4279260956

http://www.apple.com/iphone/gallery/
 
I can't believe someone calling themselves a pro just criticised the sample pics posted by Joseph without addressing the fact that in identical circumstances the iPhone 5 has ugly purple flaring and the iPhone 4 is white (which reflects my experience).

I'm about to buy a 5 and I want to know if this is an issue for all of them b

I know - I feel like posting my crappy dSLR shots here, without any purple haze, of course.

Maybe I'll post my 3GS ones instead... :eek:
 
What horrible battery life issue?
Mine and all of my friends phones are fine thank you.

Some ppl do have this issue, but to be fair, this isn't iphone's flaw per se. This battery issue is actually dependent upon the carrier and the coverage in your area.

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I suggest you look up Kah Kit Yoong and be amazed.

His comments here already amazed me plen+y :D I actually took the time and looked him up, which I now regret.. All I saw were some rubbish, generic, pretentious shots that average casual photographers post on deviant art every single day. If you'd truly like to be inspired, look up Ninagawa Mika and Heidi Slimane.

sincerely,

-Joseph Nicéphore Niépce
 
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This used to be an issue on Digital Cameras years ago. Since then, the lens manufacturers have come up with exotic coating for the glass to eliminate the flares. The coating and technology to do so gets expensive on the higher end lenses.

Coming to the iPhone, the team was so intent on using a new material (Sapphire?) that they completely overlooked the fact that it had to be coated. It wouldn't have cost that much to coat that small glass.

If you say its a phone camera for god's sake.

Well its an iPhone, and attention to detail is their hallmark. I think the engineering team let this slip though the cracks.
 
In those two pictures in the OP, I think that the flare in the iPhone 5 is significantly better than the 4S. Not a very good representation...
 
The iPhone 5 photo looks better to me than the iPhone 4S photo. I don't get what the big deal is about lens flare. It happens on pretty much every camera.
 
It happens on pretty much all cameras, I have a camera and I have had this happen on some shots. It's the lens coatings that normally cause it.

This has been happening on cameras for years and nothing has been said, but because its happened on something has popular as the iPhone it then get widely publicised.
 
I'd love to see some of the results if other phones were examined to the extreme and complained about on a large scale like the iPhone is.

The iPhone 5 photo looks better to me than the iPhone 4S photo. I don't get what the big deal is about lens flare. It happens on pretty much every camera.

That's exactly what I'm talking about. It's really a common issue, but because it's on the iPhone people whine until it seems like it's a big deal. If you search and search, you can find issues with any product.
 
I'd love to see some of the results if other phones were examined to the extreme and complained about on a large scale like the iPhone is.



That's exactly what I'm talking about. It's really a common issue, but because it's on the iPhone people whine until it seems like it's a big deal. If you search and search, you can find issues with any product.

iPhone 5 is made with a level of precision you'd expect from a fine watch - not a smartphone.
 
All lenses in the world have flare problem when directed to the source of light.
With iPhone 5 is not so easy to have flare, it depends on the direction of the view.
You have it only if you want it.

Another mediatic fake.
 
What is wrong with people. Of course you'll have problems if you take a picture of the sun. Why don't you stare directly at the sun without sunglasses for a while. See how that works for you. You need a filter if you want to shoot toward the sun. An iPhone doesn't have lenses that you can put a filter on.
If you want to take a picture of the sun, get a good camera with the right type of filter to do it with. Until then don't shoot at the sun with your phone camera.
What ever happened to common sense.
 
I've been looking through photos taken with my 4s and this the closest I have come to any hint of purple in lens flare. Generally though I would say this sort of flare is absolutely to be expected and no problem. I would hope to see similar on the iPhone 5
 

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sincerely,

-Joseph Nicéphore Niépce

I'm going to be honest, I'm not a professional photographer, just a normal guy who likes to take pictures, and knows a bit about physics. I've been taking photos all my life with film as a young man, and digital as an adult, and I've seen lens flare come in all sorts of shapes and sizes and colors. This really doesn't look any different.

Specifically, I want to point out that these comparison photos that you are quite fond of posting are actually not two comparable photos. The photos were taken at significantly different angles in comparison to the sun. You can tell the angle by the location of the lens flare. The iPhone 5 photo has a clearly different angle towards the sun, as evidenced by the halo near the bottom of the frame. You can also see the difference in angle when you look at the rest of the photo as well, with the trees and background being significantly different.

No two photos will be exactly the same, for sure, but that's not really what I'm getting at. My point is that any camera could have this type of flare and distortion if you find the right angle and light source. It really is a matter of framing.
 
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