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Just like i don’t buy their fraud stats, i don’t buy that all these terminated developer accounts were rightfully terminated.

Remember the “Dash” App? And the Apple call records he released.

The Dash guy just had luck because the App was very popular among developers, and he went public. Apple don’t even gave him the chance to try to explain or to fix the situation. They just cut the communications.
Phil Schiller that to re-enable the account because of public pressure.

But what can a not so very popular App Developer do if he gets his developer account terminated? Yeah nothing!

They look at the 30% earnings of the App, and if less than X, they simply cut the cord and don’t care.
Precisely why they have to allow sideloading in the EU because this is monopolistic nonsense. Apple will never do anything unless under public pressure.
 
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You could have simply looked at who the publisher was.
Yep, and that's what I would have done, but..................If I'd fixed something - the first thing I'd try and do is check that it was fixed.
There is something wrong with their search algorithm. They will know what the popular search terms are and you'd have thought that if you search for MS Authenticator the first app that pops up would be, the app that matches exactly what you searched for?
I know what kind of thing the OP is talking about.
Surely the App Store approval team would try things like this, even if they use automated software to check it?
 
Oh it's actually incredibly valuable information in this report that cab be used with other open source information to get a better understanding of potentiall anti competitive actions by Apple.

And to calculte if Apple taking 30% for in app purchases is a reasonable take or if it's close to pure profit for Apple
Ah, more wet finger in the air math.
 
You should have to check. It's the same as walking into a car park and jumping in somebody elses car because you were busy/ distracted. The onus is firmly on you to check that an App is the actual app you want. There's hundreds of "paint"/ "office"/ "messaging"/ "music"/ "password manager"/ "authenticator" apps. Picking the wrong one when you know exactly which one, and by which publisher is not Apple's fault.

Perhaps, but all this is just symptom of a larger probem, which is that the App Store has gotten too big for Apple to police/gatekeep effectively. It's absolutely filled with garbage apps and bait. I stay away.
 
There's hundreds of "paint"/ "office"/ "messaging"/ "music"/ "password manager"/ "authenticator" apps. Picking the wrong one when you know exactly which one, and by which publisher is not Apple's fault.
Yeah, it kinda is, and the fact that you need to use ironic quotes for those app types merely underscores/proves the problem with garbage apps littering the app store, which has become too big for Apple to manage. It's a mountain of trash.
 
Well you must start somewhere. It can as well show tge opposite. More data is good.

Would be better if Apple was just open with their revenue and profit margins so we would not have these useless lawsuits
True, but there is no legal obligation to do so and apple started to follow the other companies that reported in the same manner.

These lawsuits will never stop.
 
Perhaps, but all this is just symptom of a larger probem, which is that the App Store has gotten too big for Apple to police/gatekeep effectively. It's absolutely filled with garbage apps and bait. I stay away.
What percentage is “garbage” apps. I have easily been able to find what I’m looking for. Im sure others have as well.
 
I hope this inspires Apple to provide more important information in future. It’s interesting, companies like Microsoft which have been large for longer have a different attitude to developer communications. Maybe Apple still have a few things to learn.
 
Government can control your device if side loading is not available.

Good luck getting a VPN app in China or TikTok in some US states in the future.

and government can't control your device if sideloading is available? lol

you want vpn in china but also the ability to install TikTok as sideload to which China can control the data? you're not making any sense.
 
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True, but there is no legal obligation to do so and apple started to follow the other companies that reported in the same manner.

These lawsuits will never stop.
Sometimes you should work proactively so you don't have to waste resources on lawyer fees and lawsuits.

Sometimes doing what others do is worse than doing better for your own interests.
 
Well it tells us Apple with Almost 37 million developer accounts , so, about $3.7 billion profit

Of of the 36 billion apple earned from the appstore in 2022
3.7 billion 10% is from developers.
That's a hefty profit just like unused gymmebership cards.

37 million registered developer accounts doesn't mean all 37 million paid $100/year. Free developer accounts exist too.
 
Just like i don’t buy their fraud stats, i don’t buy that all these terminated developer accounts were rightfully terminated.

Remember the “Dash” App? And the Apple call records he released.

You mean the second account that definitely had fraudulent activity that Dash conveniently forgot about setting up using the same back accounts for his relative in this first post?


Apple don’t even gave him the chance to try to explain or to fix the situation. They just cut the communications.

1. The phone call did mention they provided warnings before to the linked account.
2. It is the developers fault for linking both accounts. Once linked, developer is responsible for both accounts.
3. "I didn't know both accounts were linked" is not the fault of Apple. Sorry. When Google detects their gmail accounts spamming other email accounts, first thing they look for is signs of obvious linkage to other accounts. An client that has 4 gmail accounts signed into a browser where one is the spammy account would be a factor. Very simple.
4. Some how the relative that's doing the fraudulent activity deserves no fault either? Funny.

Phil Schiller had to re-enable the account because of public pressure.

Despite Apple not being at fault, they re-enabled as a good will.

But what can a not so very popular App Developer do if he gets his developer account terminated? Yeah nothing!

Follow the rules and there's no need to worry.
 
Sometimes you should work proactively so you don't have to waste resources on lawyer fees and lawsuits.

Sometimes doing what others do is worse than doing better for your own interests.
I can see why apple is doing this. It’s none of the competitions’ business and not required by law. And winning a lawsuit is not a guarantee. In the scheme of things with apples revenue lawyers fees are cheaper option.
 
and government can't control your device if sideloading is available? lol

you want vpn in china but also the ability to install TikTok as sideload to which China can control the data? you're not making any sense.
As an example for sideloading, you cannot tell where your sacred Apple Mac is csending data unless you sideload tools to watch the traffic, like Little Snitch. There, off you go.
Despite Apple not being at fault, they re-enabled as a good will.
Apple and good will, yeah. Like how Russia "gave back" Snake Island for their stated good will. With the slight difference that you do the work for Apple here.
I can see why apple is doing this. It’s none of the competitions’ business and not required by law. And winning a lawsuit is not a guarantee. In the scheme of things with apples revenue lawyers fees are cheaper option.
Apple has had a monopoly on installing software here and too many complaints, that is why the government stepped in. I'm happy that they did so we can finally see how deep TC is bending over for his precious genocidal and oppressive countries.
 
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Apple has had a monopoly on installing software here and too many complaints, that is why the government stepped in. I'm happy that they did so we can finally see how deep TC is bending over for his precious genocidal and oppressive countries.
Who are the people making the complaints?

From what I can see, iOS users are generally happy with the walled garden approach, while it's a small number of influential businesses who are pushing to have the App Store opened up so they can skirt around its rules and keep the 30% cut for themselves.

I think it's quite telling that it's the same few companies being quoted in the news (eg: Epic, Hey, Spotify, Match, Tile), yet no consumers, and for good reason too. iOS users generally do not hate walled ecosystems (that's why we are iPhone users in the first place).

Which is why I have no qualms about calling it out for what it is - a move made by businesses to benefit businesses (and even then, only certain businesses), not consumers. Time to stop pretending it is anything else but.
 
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As an example for sideloading, you cannot tell where your sacred Apple Mac is csending data unless you sideload tools to watch the traffic, like Little Snitch. There, off you go.
Uh no.
If I can do it via iPhone (Charles Proxy iOS), I can do it on the Mac. Tools just decide to avoid App Store for the extra 30%.

There, off you go.

Apple and good will, yeah. Like how Russia "gave back" Snake Island for their stated good will. With the slight difference that you do the work for Apple here.
Strawman
 
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Apple has had a monopoly on installing software here and too many complaints, that is why the government stepped in. I'm happy that they did so we can finally see how deep TC is bending over for his precious genocidal and oppressive countries.
Like Honda has a monopoly on the accord, apple has a legal monopoly, there’s no other finding. And I guess we disagree on what government should ; which I find to be amazing that two people on an Internet forum would disagree.
 
Who are the people making the complaints?

From what I can see, iOS users are generally happy with the walled garden approach, while it's a small number of influential businesses who are pushing to have the App Store opened up so they can skirt around its rules and keep the 30% cut for themselves.

I think it's quite telling that it's the same few companies being quoted in the news (eg: Epic, Hey, Spotify, Match, Tile), yet no consumers, and for good reason too. iOS users generally do not hate walled ecosystems (that's why we are iPhone users in the first place).

Which is why I have no qualms about calling it out for what it is - a move made by businesses to benefit businesses (and even then, only certain businesses), not consumers. Time to stop pretending it is anything else but.
Yeah consumers aren’t going to benefit!
 
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iOS users are generally happy with the walled garden approach, while it's a small number of influential businesses who are pushing to have the App Store opened up so they can skirt around its rules and keep the 30% cut for themselves.

I think it's quite telling that it's the same few companies being quoted in the news (eg: Epic, Hey, Spotify, Match, Tile), yet no consumers, and for good reason too. iOS users generally do not hate walled ecosystems (that's why we are iPhone users in the first place).

Which is why I have no qualms about calling it out for what it is - a move made by businesses to benefit businesses (and even then, only certain businesses), not consumers. Time to stop pretending it is anything else but.
You have no qualms about it because you are trying to downplay the masses of iOS users who are unhappy about. Did you ask them? The EU did, you did not, so you're just trying to push your agenda and opinion as a fact based on nothing while the EU is basing it on the will of its people. Yes, that includes companies as well, but also petitions, surveys, etc. You can joke all you want but they actually work for its citizens, and we elect and re-elect them.
I am a consumer, and I benefit from it. Every person I know is positive about it, as are they about Lightning going away, independently from them currently using it or already having USB-C.
Uh no.
If I can do it via iPhone (Charles Proxy iOS), I can do it on the Mac. Tools just decide to avoid App Store for the extra 30%.

There, off you go.


Strawman
Charles Proxy (for iOS) has no control over the data, you cannot adjust it to go anywhere specifically, or allow/disallow certain aspects of traffic, which is the core functionality of Little Snitch. Plus it only works through a local proxy which has its own limitations as well. You just presented a data monitor which is only one aspect that Little Snitch is covering. Plus, Little Snitch covers it way more sophisticated.
So, again, no alternative. There, off you go.
 
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Like Honda has a monopoly on the accord, apple has a legal monopoly, there’s no other finding. And I guess we disagree on what government should ; which I find to be amazing that two people on an Internet forum would disagree.
Apple has a legal monopoly outside of the EU, ftfy.
 
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