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Re: WHAT A FREAKIN" MESS!

Originally posted by Balin64

I have a theory: Could they have moved up shipping of wireless keyboard/mice to stir up interest and thus also had to rush the OS update to support them? I would have been happier if they released a small update for wireless keyboard.mouse support then a polished system-wide update. I doubt this was the case, but in case it is, BLAH!

noperz... from what i read they sent out cd's with the necessary updates to the bt mouse and kb buyers...

and yeah, this does seem uncannily like a windows update...

wait a minute!?? who put that on apple's site anyways? (after all, it was sketchy at best when it showed up)

:)

blah...

oh well. guess being stuck in os9 isn't too bad... i haven't had to worry about an update in what seems like forever ;)

matt

p.s. i'm stuck in 9 because of $$$ not specific apps - i can feel someone getting the urge to write and say 'there's no reason to stick with 9'...
 
Re: Wow - pulled it?

Originally posted by mvc
Have apple ever pulled an update off of Software Update before? I can't remember one, but I could be wrong.

The only I update I remember them pulling was 7.5.4, which had some serious bugs, and 7.5.5 was released later the same month.

Incidentally, according to http://matthewshull.tripod.com/macintosh/system_software_6to7.html, that also happened in September ... of 1996.
 
hmmm

Funny, it still says "Mac OS X 10.2.8 available via Software Update. Get the latest security updates as well as improved audio, Bluetooth and Safari." on the main apple.com/macosx heh. It would stink if they released a patch and 10.2.9 and then they needed another update before 10.3 and they had to call it 10.2.9.1 ug. That would be confusing.
 
Originally posted by shadowfax
wow, it's kinda like windows update, isn't it?
That's what we've all been thinking quietly to ourselves, too ashamed to admit it :mad:.
 
Originally posted by Neuro
TiBook 667 (512Mb)

Updated fine. GUI is definitely faster and more responsive to user actions. You can particularly notice it when switching between options and tabs in system preferences - change instantly.

Also, the 'genie' dock effect is now always smooth.

So far I'm impressed.

I guess it may still explode though...
how long had it been since your last restart? you may be confusing performance enhancement with something like a fresh log in. i have a GHz TiBook, and i am not seeing any kind of speed improvements on the gui... and i hadn't restarted in 40 days, heh.
 
I updated my 700 MHz FS iMac that uses the Ethernet connector for DSL and have had zero problems.
 
Fishy at first, seems OK now

I downloaded and updated from 10.2.6 last night on my 550 MHz TiBook. After installing, optimization took about 15 minutes, then I could not get the computer to reboot. It just hung on the gray screen for about 15 minutes before I shut it off and tried booting again.

After trying that 3 times I said "screw it" and went to bed with the machine turned off. I got up this morning and it booted fine, albeit slowly. It has been on all day and everything seems fine now, with no discernible performance difference good or bad.

And... for the record, I have not been running any beta OS or anything like that. Everything on my machine is current and legit.

I was a bit worried last night, though, that this update had hosed my computer.
 
Re: hmmm

Originally posted by jamka
It would stink if they released a patch and 10.2.9 and then they needed another update before 10.3 and they had to call it 10.2.9.1 ug. That would be confusing.
No reason they can't ship 10.2.10 and 10.2.11...

Weren't there some 10.1.x updates after 10.2.0 came out? It's not like people don't need critical fixes when they haven't bought the next upgrade.

And no, I didn't have anything funny on my machine that had the ethernet problem. It's just a configuration they didn't test.
 
i had been using transparent dock but it killed it...i tried to use transparent dock after it rebooted to get it back to how i had it set but it never came back :eek:

i had to restore it, so i guess im stuck with the standard dock.

also had a kernel panic last night, had a WEIRD freeze today: first ichat got the beachball, then itunes, then the cursor stopped moving (!). i couldnt switch apps via the keyboard, and then i got a beacball on the stuck cursor. a reboot fixed this... dammit!

im running on a beige g3 233 tower, 320mb ram
 
No problems here on my 12" PB and iMac 400 DVSE.

Did notice through these forums though that the timer on the battery looks really low. Would have never known that since I only use the percentage display. That seems to work as usual.

All right! A new updater in the works! 10.2.8.1?

I was hoping for iCal today but guess this will be set it back a little bit now...
 
Originally posted by shadowfax
wow, it's kinda like windows update, isn't it?

No, actually it is not.
Although I've had windoze for years (up until recently) and have patched my PIII-450 system a few times a week, **** like this never happened (yes, windows patches are that frequent). The worst I recall is that there would be a patch of the patch, because the first patch fixed a security leak and caused another. Nothing serious like being unable to boot properly, not being able to log into your own system, harddisks becoming inaccessible etc. Messed up 3rd party sysutil are common in windoze patches though. I fully expect M$ to change (undocumented) features just to make 3rd parties unreliable to use, giving M$ a competitive edge.

Windows Update is not as bad as this.
Windows right out of the box however...
 
Battery Life

Originally posted by beefcake
Aside from a sound glitch that a restart fixed, my system has been running fairly well. Battery life took a dive, but I'm in the process of recalibrating it.

I've seen this a couple of times. My battery life took a dive, too. How do you recalibrate it? Is it just simply letting it run out and charging it fully? Thanks guys.

--Loaf
 
Originally posted by goldmember
Have you had any drop in battery life? I was experiencing about 1/2 the time I had under 10.2.7, but I haven't recalibrated the battery yet.

Don't worry, you're actually getting the same battery life, it's just that the estimated time left is wrong. Mine is doing that now. It's annoying but nothing's being hurt.

I (and several others, I gather) have tried the battery recalibration procedure, but it does not fix the time-left indicator. :(

Apple has pulled an update before, it was clobbering hard drives that were partioned in some particular way. I think it was under OS 9.x.
 
Originally posted by iHack
No, actually it is not.
Although I've had windoze for years (up until recently) and have patched my PIII-450 system a few times a week, **** like this never happened (yes, windows patches are that frequent).

LOL.. You obviously never dealt with Windows Service Pack updates. In my travels I've run across more then a few SP updates from Windows NT 4 to Windows 2000 that have seriously F-ed up the system. My fav being Compaq servers running SMART RAID. The sys file was incompatible with SP6a so it blew up the system. Total BSOD on boot. MS had to release and updated ver of SP 6a to fix the problem.
 
No problems with me so far, but I haven't turned off my iMac yet... we'll see if it explodes tomorrow! :)

Pray for me! (Or don't.)

I'm sure they'll have a fix to it very soon, probably sooner than we think.
 
17 inch alubook has no (apparent) problems with the update--in fact, it finds and mounts external volumes over the network far faster than it did before, almost as fast as 0S 9 used to!

But, as someone else said, I suppose it could still all explode.
 
Originally posted by SiliconAddict
LOL.. You obviously never dealt with Windows Service Pack updates. In my travels I've run across more then a few SP updates from Windows NT 4 to Windows 2000 that have seriously F-ed up the system. My fav being Compaq servers running SMART RAID. The sys file was incompatible with SP6a so it blew up the system. Total BSOD on boot. MS had to release and updated ver of SP 6a to fix the problem.
exactly. MS just doesn't have the balls to pull off crap they know they should.
 
Just saw on Maccentral.com that Apple cites the ethernet problems for pulling the update (to which a reasonable workaround exists, I understand). here is a link

from reading the relevant threads on this forum, I would say that the ethernet problem is one of their minor worries. Some people ended up with a completely dysfunctional Mac, for crying out loud! :mad:

My updated 17" imac and 12" pobo are still fully functional. Launching app's is noticeably faster, but that's about it...

keeping my fingers crossed...:(

M.
 
My iBook didn't like 10.2.8

I had to reinstall OS X.2 on my iBook after I attempted to install the update. My 'Book froze near the end of optimization, and then when I restarted, wouldn't let me log in. :(
All back together now though, and seems to run 10.2.8 OK.
 
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