Microsoft's phone and Apple's phone are competitive products. What Apple product competes with Withings scales or blood pressure monitors?
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Apple Pulls All Withings Accessories From Apple Online Store Following Nokia Lawsuit
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When have you ever seen Apple discount anything? Besides USB-C dongles and peripherals I mean.
Yes, Samsung should have stopped selling to Apple if they were not bound by any agreements. And they certainly should not have entered into any new agreements. Samsung lost a lot of respect from me, when they stubbornly refused to do so. It showed behaviour that I would not expect from smart adults, but maybe very naive, children, aka childish.
I still don't understand the obsession with before-vs-after. Like, it's not what you DO that matters, but only the comparison to yesterday that matters. It's the fact that it changed is what's bothering people.
Yesterday is irrelevant. What are they doing today - evaluate that on its own merits - end of discussion
Yes you do if it makes a profit and customers are buying them. As a shareholder I expect Apple executives to behave like adults, not children and I demand they keep making me profit any legitimate way they can. It's probably a safe bet that there is licenced Nokia IP in Apple products....they going to stop making those products? I think not, so the behaviour is somewhat inconsistent?
Apple seems to be trying to be the tech retail equivalent of Donald Trump. I am waiting for the claim that they removed the Withings products to save the consumers money.
At least they didn't tweet it in the middle of the night....
At least they didn't tweet it in the middle of the night....
"According to Apple, Nokia has been conspiring with patent assertion entities (Acacia Research and Conversant Property Management) in an "illegal patent transfer scheme" to wring money out of Apple because Nokia's cell phone business is failing"
C'mon Apple, don't be so childish *rolls eyes* Did Nokia hurt your feelings or something 'cos you seem to be a bit butthurt...
FYI, Nokia sold their phone business to Microsoft in 2013 so their phone business can't be failing 'cos they don't have one (at the moment)!
-> Nokia will be making a come back to phones next year with some licensed Android phones...
C'mon Apple, don't be so childish *rolls eyes* Did Nokia hurt your feelings or something 'cos you seem to be a bit butthurt...
FYI, Nokia sold their phone business to Microsoft in 2013 so their phone business can't be failing 'cos they don't have one (at the moment)!
-> Nokia will be making a come back to phones next year with some licensed Android phones...
But it does matter, just because you personally want to avoid it is something you need to work on. But to use this "forget the past thing" (I hope you don't apply that to everything), evaluate the fact they made a decision to drop these items from their stores. Why limit the range of items in your shop? Why remove important health items after pushing your devices health recording functions? Bizarre.
Should I wear a coat today because it was cold yesterday? Or should I dress for the weather that's outside now?
I'll "work on it," I guess, but I still think I'll decide not to wear a coat on a warm day.
I can tell you, sales of Withings products in Apple Stores are nothing significant and will barely touch the Apple's profit.
If you owned a shop and sold someone's products, and you then fell out with them, you wouldn't keep selling their products. You're having delusions of grandeur if you believe otherwise.
Amazing, you are so smart you can read my mind.....or is it that if someone disagrees with you are rude to them? Also, how come you can state as fact what Apple stores sales of Whitings products are, or is that also part of your omnipotent capabilities?
What about the IP issue? Nothing smart to say on that score?
Not sure I've been rude. They sell literally billions of iPhones, I don't think they're concerned about a few smart weighing scales.
Great words and thiught! If only we as people across the globe could do the same amongst ourselves maybe lives and views of others would be greatly improved within our world. Hmmm.
Nokia Mobile is owned by the Foxconn and HMD Global. I guess with this, they (Apple) would also ditch Foxconn and manufacture all Apple products in US instead of China?
A thief doesn't need a court order to take your car.
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Before collapse Nokia was too busy tweaking headphone and power connectors while competition drew ahead...
Sounds somewhat today's Apple btw...
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Wrong company. The portion that HMD owns is a portion of what was sold to Microsoft. They're not involved in any way in this lawsuit.
This is Nokia prime that is suing; the Telecoms part of the company that was not part of the Microsoft acquisition. This company is very similar to Ericsson - who Apple only recently lost a billion dollar lawsuit to.
Yes one can find an analogy for all situations supporting all viewpoints, why did you bring one up?
Retailers have every right to control which products they sell, and I wish more would exercise that right to the benefit of consumers. Far too much wasteful junk food is being peddled by grocery stores simply in the interest of sales, not the health of their customers. Even if they based decisions on the amount of packaging used for a product, it would drastically change what's available, and force manufacturers to pay closer attention to that.
In terms of Nokia, Apple believes Nokia is violating their position, so should Apple have a double-standard? On one hand, fight Nokia, and on the other hand, benefit from selling their products, not to mention help them out? The safest decision is to not sell the products at all, and that's exactly what they chose to do. I agree with it.
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A "safe bet"? That will be determined by the courts, not you.
And regarding your "demands", that's purely a selfish standpoint, not rooted in common sense or what's best for everyone involved, just yourself.
In terms of Nokia, Apple believes Nokia is violating their position, so should Apple have a double-standard? On one hand, fight Nokia, and on the other hand, benefit from selling their products, not to mention help them out? The safest decision is to not sell the products at all, and that's exactly what they chose to do. I agree with it.
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A "safe bet"? That will be determined by the courts, not you.
And regarding your "demands", that's purely a selfish standpoint, not rooted in common sense or what's best for everyone involved, just yourself.
It is naive to think that businesses can't be sueing each other and yet carry on doing business quite happily at the same time. its just business, any other attitude belongs in the playground.
Since when do shareholders have any interests except their own in mind?
You must not be marrried. Once you are, trust me the past is just as important as the present and future, your wife will make that clear to you.
If the IRS ever comes knocking explain that there is no past..... when analysing a situation, you must take all parameters into consideration, not just cherry pick the ones to make a point .
So if a guy were to stab me in the street, I shouldn't believe I've actually been stabbed until after the trial? We should hang out and get drinks together until then?
Has Microsoft ever stocked iphones in their store? Has Disney ever had Shrek on their shelves? If so, then yes pulling those products in direct response to a lawsuit would be petty in my mind. As far as I know, they have never carried these products so the comparison isn't accurate.
It seems silly to me, but at the same time I've never heard of these products until reading this article and am now interested in them so I suppose this could be turned into a case of any news being good news for Withings.
As someone else mentioned, with Bean Counter Tim at the helm, it's no longer enough to add to the user experience - perhaps the fitness stuff just isn't profitable enough to devote shelf space to (they can't drop apple watch for obvious reasons) either.
You must not be marrried. Once you are, trust me the past is just as important as the present and future, your wife will make that clear to you.
Married 13 years, but my wife has never stocked Shrek items.
(I may be inadverdantly mixing up some of my replies at this point.)
Looking at it that way, Apple already has a double standard by continuing to use Nokia IP while fighting Nokia.
He's right. We already know that Apple is using Nokia IP.
For one thing, you can't make a phone without it. For another, the lawsuit is about how much Apple has to pay for using Nokia IP, not over whether it's being used by Apple.