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it's bc they didn't report on them. wouldn't fit their agenda.
I thought all COVID deaths were reported?

Where do you see missing COVID deaths from BLM protests?

Would be wild if COVID was even more deadly than it is now.
 
there is no difference if you're talking about it being a problem for people to be out in the streets during a pandemic. the reason shouldn't matter. but your response is a typical leftist response. your response proves that covid isn't that serious then if you have a "good" reason to be out in the streets. now covid's ability to infect is based on reasons? lol
He's not saying that COVID would discern between these two things, and I suspect you know that already.
 
Hmmmm...I don't think that I quite understand what they were doing that was a violation of the Apple terms. Were they specifically promoting secret parties against virus restrictions? Or is this just the action that Apple is going to take against all event apps? How can other event apps be allowed on the App Store when this one was not allowed?
 
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Apple has pulled an iOS app from the App Store that encouraged users to organize secret underground parties despite social distancing measures and U.S. pandemic restrictions, reports The Verge.

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Called "Vybe Together," the app billed itself as a place to organize and attend secret parties, with its now-defunct website using the tagline "Get your rebel on. Get your party on."

App users could act as party organizers and approve other users who wanted to attend their event. Approved invitees then received the event address two hours before the party was due to start.

According to one of the developers contacted by The Verge, Vybe Together had a few thousand users and thousands more had requested access before Apple pulled it from the App Store. The app had also been promoted on TikTok before its account on the short-form video sharing platform was banned.

The ongoing health crisis has made indoor gatherings of people from different households an unsafe practice and in many regions such parties would be clear violations of pandemic restrictions, so it's unclear why Apple approved the app in the first place.

According to the report, the website's FAQ page acknowledged the danger of the pandemic, but said the app was designed to promote "small gatherings" rather than "large scale parties."

Whether the app led to many people holding the unsafe events is unclear, although it promoted "gatherings every weekend" on TikTok, including New Year's Eve parties.

The app had 25 ratings on the App Store before it was removed, and its Instagram page had under 1,000 followers. Before it was banned from the photo-sharing platform, Vybe Together's account had a single text post which read: "Blown out of proportion by the media. We DO NOT CONDONE LARGE GATHERINGS."

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Article Link: Apple Pulls App That Promoted Secret Parties During Ongoing Pandemic
Instead of trying to outlaw parties the government should just infiltrate them with Debbie Downers to undermine the fun for everyone.
 
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So it's your right not to wear mask, gather, party, ignore a virus, not care about others

but it's not Apple's right to control what's in their app store?

You have to love the logic
 
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there is no difference if you're talking about it being a problem for people to be out in the streets during a pandemic. the reason shouldn't matter. but your response is a typical leftist response. your response proves that covid isn't that serious then if you have a "good" reason to be out in the streets. now covid's ability to infect is based on reasons? lol
But the reason does matter.

If the reason you're out on the street is to make the government know you don't like the way you are governed, then it's a protected right.

If the reason you're out on the street is to foment insurrection or to start a civil war, then you are a traitor and will be treated as such.

The reason always matters, and words mean things.

Does the reason matter if I own a piece of property next to a middle school and want to open a liquor store on it? If my reason is to sell liquor to middle school children, you bet it does. Even if my intent is not to do so, there are inherent risks that come with placing a liquor store next to a school. Most anyone would object to allowing this to happen. To say it was common sense would be an understatement.

To allow people to assemble to protest the way the are governed, and to allow them to do so outside is a totally different risk/reward bargain than facilitating underground indoor parties during a pandemic. The two are totally different in regards to risk/reward and reasoning.

Now, when governments in certain jurisdictions were allowing people to protest while mandating churches and gun stores be closed, and allowing massive funerals for George Floyd and Breonna Taylor while people across the country weren't permitted to properly mourn THIER lost loved ones, that becomes a different issue and a different argument.

People engaging in like activities are to expect equal rights and protections under law and by reasoning. Conversely, it is incumbent upon us as those who live in a free society to not only reap the benefits afforded to us via the social contract, but to demonstrate the RESPONSABILITY that comes with participation in that bargain.

That means acknowledging others rights and opinions and the right to express them, despite the fact that I may find their viewpoint abhorrent. Operating with the understanding that you will do the same for me if the circumstances are reversed.

I don't expect anyone to agree with my religious beliefs, my opinions on the right to keep and bear arms, on abortion, or civil rights, or whatever your cause may be. But I do expect them to respect my right to have those opinions as much as I respect their right to have theirs.

The difference between the two is glaringly obvious. No one is condoning slavery, or subjecting you to fiefdom because they took the app away that makes your underground rave party "more gooder". If you're that dedicated to starting a super spreader event then post flyers and call your buddies on the phone and have your get together.

If the reason for your get together is to get drunk and laid, well I'm really sorry that simply isn't in any way protected. So yeah, the reason does matter. It's kind of the whole argument.
 
But the reason does matter.

If the reason you're out on the street is to make the government know you don't like the way you are governed, then it's a protected right.

If the reason you're out on the street is to foment insurrection or to start a civil war, then you are a traitor and will be treated as such.

The reason always matters, and words mean things.

Does the reason matter if I own a piece of property next to a middle school and want to open a liquor store on it? If my reason is to sell liquor to middle school children, you bet it does. Even if my intent is not to do so, there are inherent risks that come with placing a liquor store next to a school. Most anyone would object to allowing this to happen. To say it was common sense would be an understatement.

To allow people to assemble to protest the way the are governed, and to allow them to do so outside is a totally different risk/reward bargain than facilitating underground indoor parties during a pandemic. The two are totally different in regards to risk/reward and reasoning.

Now, when governments in certain jurisdictions were allowing people to protest while mandating churches and gun stores be closed, and allowing massive funerals for George Floyd and Breonna Taylor while people across the country weren't permitted to properly mourn THIER lost loved ones, that becomes a different issue and a different argument.

People engaging in like activities are to expect equal rights and protections under law and by reasoning. Conversely, it is incumbent upon us as those who live in a free society to not only reap the benefits afforded to us via the social contract, but to demonstrate the RESPONSABILITY that comes with participation in that bargain.

That means acknowledging others rights and opinions and the right to express them, despite the fact that I may find their viewpoint abhorrent. Operating with the understanding that you will do the same for me if the circumstances are reversed.

I don't expect anyone to agree with my religious beliefs, my opinions on the right to keep and bear arms, on abortion, or civil rights, or whatever your cause may be. But I do expect them to respect my right to have those opinions as much as I respect their right to have theirs.

The difference between the two is glaringly obvious. No one is condoning slavery, or subjecting you to fiefdom because they took the app away that makes your underground rave party "more gooder". If you're that dedicated to starting a super spreader event then post flyers and call your buddies on the phone and have your get together.

If the reason for your get together is to get drunk and laid, well I'm really sorry that simply isn't in any way protected. So yeah, the reason does matter. It's kind of the whole argument.
then covid is not that serious if it's "reason" dependent.
 
We should all be happy that the corona virus is not very lethal and that very few people have died from it. Everything else is just people using it as a shield behind which they lob attacks at those with whom they disagree and as vehicle for politicians to implement more social control mechanisms over the distracted plebs.
 
But the reason does matter.

If the reason you're out on the street is to make the government know you don't like the way you are governed, then it's a protected right.

If the reason you're out on the street is to foment insurrection or to start a civil war, then you are a traitor and will be treated as such.

The reason always matters, and words mean things.

Does the reason matter if I own a piece of property next to a middle school and want to open a liquor store on it? If my reason is to sell liquor to middle school children, you bet it does. Even if my intent is not to do so, there are inherent risks that come with placing a liquor store next to a school. Most anyone would object to allowing this to happen. To say it was common sense would be an understatement.

To allow people to assemble to protest the way the are governed, and to allow them to do so outside is a totally different risk/reward bargain than facilitating underground indoor parties during a pandemic. The two are totally different in regards to risk/reward and reasoning.

Now, when governments in certain jurisdictions were allowing people to protest while mandating churches and gun stores be closed, and allowing massive funerals for George Floyd and Breonna Taylor while people across the country weren't permitted to properly mourn THIER lost loved ones, that becomes a different issue and a different argument.

People engaging in like activities are to expect equal rights and protections under law and by reasoning. Conversely, it is incumbent upon us as those who live in a free society to not only reap the benefits afforded to us via the social contract, but to demonstrate the RESPONSABILITY that comes with participation in that bargain.

That means acknowledging others rights and opinions and the right to express them, despite the fact that I may find their viewpoint abhorrent. Operating with the understanding that you will do the same for me if the circumstances are reversed.

I don't expect anyone to agree with my religious beliefs, my opinions on the right to keep and bear arms, on abortion, or civil rights, or whatever your cause may be. But I do expect them to respect my right to have those opinions as much as I respect their right to have theirs.

The difference between the two is glaringly obvious. No one is condoning slavery, or subjecting you to fiefdom because they took the app away that makes your underground rave party "more gooder". If you're that dedicated to starting a super spreader event then post flyers and call your buddies on the phone and have your get together.

If the reason for your get together is to get drunk and laid, well I'm really sorry that simply isn't in any way protected. So yeah, the reason does matter. It's kind of the whole argument.
Thank you for saying that in* such a reasoned and eloquent way.

I gave up when the guy used the word 'agenda'.
 
Did they closed apps used by BLM to organize protest during pandamic??
As far as I recall, they did not closed apps used during pandamic to organize BLM protests. So sad!

BLM protests were by-and-large outside (rather than in closed spaces, where the risk of COVID spread is exponentially increased), supported by people who believe in science and thusly wore masks to protect those around them. Those who did not protest recognized the need to stay inside—actually leading to a net increase in social distancing.


I’ve seen some silly comments over the years. This one takes the cake.
 
Texas has been ALL THE WAY OPEN you should’ve seen the lake party’s over the summer. Commiefornia (TODAY) had there lockdown orders extended till mid-January. With cases surging. It’s almost like the science and numbers aren’t adding up.
C19 deaths per 100,000 population (30 Dec 20, CDC data): Texas = 951. California = 626.

Looks a lot like science and numbers go together very well.
 
Those aren’t the type of crazy ones Apple was referring to. The Think Different advertizing campaign was about progressive people with helpful and constructive ideas. Not suicidal conspiracy theorists with an axe to grind against the modern world.
Well said. It's hard to believe that in four short years we've gone from people "just" being racist and "just" being misogynistic to being full blown nutbags following every conspiracy theory that comes along and anyone who disagrees is a member of some imaginary deep state. I haven't spoken to my mother in four years, but I heard through my grandparents that she has also gone off this deep end, and I remember her being a reasonably intelligent person in the past, but she never went to college and had to finish high school pregnant with me. This is what happens when we neglect our education system—a bunch of idiots that think they have some secret knowledge that nobody else in the world knows about to make themselves feel smart. I think the canary in the coal mine was the rapid increase in flat earthers several years ago. I remember thinking that was funny at the time, but now it's just really depressing. I also worry about an increase in domestic terrorism, which ironically will be coming from a lot of the same people who can't stop talking about the threat of Islamic terrorism. All of this has to be why I've started getting migraines in the past couple years. I just can't deal.
 
Well said. It's hard to believe that in four short years we've gone from people "just" being racist and "just" being misogynistic to being full blown nutbags following every conspiracy theory that comes along and anyone who disagrees is a member of some imaginary deep state. I haven't spoken to my mother in four years, but I heard through my grandparents that she has also gone off this deep end, and I remember her being a reasonably intelligent person in the past, but she never went to college and had to finish high school pregnant with me. This is what happens when we neglect our education system—a bunch of idiots that think they have some secret knowledge that nobody else in the world knows about to make themselves feel smart. I think the canary in the coal mine was the rapid increase in flat earthers several years ago. I remember thinking that was funny at the time, but now it's just really depressing. I also worry about an increase in domestic terrorism, which ironically will be coming from a lot of the same people who can't stop talking about the threat of Islamic terrorism. All of this has to be why I've started getting migraines in the past couple years. I just can't deal.
You nailed it. Years of neglecting to properly fund public education (while, say, pouring trillions into professional sports and other entertainment) is finally coming back to haunt America in many ways. We now have a nation full of ignorant, dangerous people.
 
Those aren’t the type of crazy ones Apple was referring to. The Think Different advertizing campaign was about progressive people with helpful and constructive ideas. Not suicidal conspiracy theorists with an axe to grind against the modern world.
I agree that was Apple’s intention—BUT, the problem in my opinion is that their marketing put the focus not on solving problems but on the aspect of going against the grain and essentially glorifying rebellion. It’s not just Apple, it’s a very popular and deeply rooted theme in Hollywood and western pop culture in general, to rebel against parents, society, government, etc. But I don’t think rebellion should be glorified at all, as it causes people to think of rebellion in itself as a positive thing, when it’s not. It’s just a sad thing that causes pain to a lot of people but is sometimes necessary (like conflict, violence, and war in general). So I believe the focus should be on progress and helping humanity, and rebellion should be thought of as a painful fact of life. But in marketing, that positive message doesn’t appeal to people nearly as well as the “revel in being a rebel (and therefore special)” message. Though to Apple’s credit, I don’t see them using “think different” or pushing that message these days.
 
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then covid is not that serious if it's "reason" dependent.
I knew it was a waste for IIGS User to introduce to concept of risk/reward or cost/benefit analysis because your entire position is based on your inability to ever progress from deductive reasoning to real world inductive logic.

Everything is reason dependent. All the laws we have are a result of a cost benefit analysis since every law is based on restricting one freedom to grant another right.

My ability to break the windows in your house, for example, is completely reason dependent. If I'm a random guy walking down the street its illegal. If I'm a firefighter responding to a call it's well within my rights. You need to be actively trying to maintain willful ignorance if you honestly aren't able to fathom a situation where the same action can be both legal and illegal based on the context.
 
who said if you get covid you instantly die? but bc the reason is better than someone else's now means that you can't catch covid?
So wait did COVID increase or decrease from BLM protesters? And how many did it kill?
 
That's very nice of you. Well, his chances of winning are basically zero. Not one single court accepted that he had even enough "plausible accusations" for the court to win the case. And the US military has already stated what they will do if someone tries to ask the military for help in a coup (I think it involves sending in a special unit with straight jackets).
Nobody is talking about the courts anymore. The evidence has been presented. To We The People. Never mind that no court actually ruled on the merits of the various cases. Apparently, you didn’t get the memo. Electronic voting machines that tallied each Trump vote as a less-than-one fraction and tallied Biden votes as a more-than-one fraction; tens of thousands uncreased (i.e., never folded and therefore never mailed) Biden ballots with no down-ballot votes scanned and counted after “voting was halted for the night” in Georgia, Pennsylvania and at least Michigan, possibly also in Wisconsin, Arizona, Nevada and Virginia; thousands if not tens of thousands of dead people voting; more votes cast than registered voters by a larger margin than Biden’s “win.” The list goes on.

Unless you know all this and have decided to collude in keeping your awareness from your fellow citizens, your lack of awareness is due to your one-sided exposure media who are the propaganda arm of the totalitarian wing of the Democrat party. They have kept from you the countless hours of sworn testimony before legislatures in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan and Arizona, which presented accounts of fraud or the great likelihood of fraud.

You would also then have absolutely no awareness of what can happen at the joint session of Congress, when according to the constitution Congress has to accept and tally the votes of each state’s electors.
 
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How dare Apple tread on my darn freedoms to get sick and suffer life-long consequences if not die from them sooner /s

Die? Your chances of dying from something other than COVID is much greater, depending on your age:

Here are those estimates, stated as the percentage of all those infected (symptomatic and asymptomatic) who are surviving:

0-19 Years99.997%
20-49 Years99.98%
50-69 Years99.5%
70+94.6%
*80+ not included
Data Source: CDC
 
Nobody is talking about the courts anymore. The evidence has been presented. To We The People. Never mind that no court actually ruled on the merits of the various cases. Apparently, you didn’t get the memo. Electronic voting machines that tallied each Trump vote as a less-than-one fraction and tallied Biden votes as a more-than-one fraction; tens of thousands uncreased (i.e., never folded and therefore never mailed) Biden ballots with no down-ballot votes scanned and counted after “voting was halted for the night” in Georgia, Pennsylvania and at least Michigan, possibly also in Wisconsin, Arizona, Nevada and Virginia; thousands if not tens of thousands of dead people voting; more votes cast than registered voters by a larger margin than Biden’s “win.” The list goes on.

Unless you know all this and have decided to collude in keeping your awareness from your fellow citizens, your lack of awareness is due to your one-sided exposure media who are the propaganda arm of the totalitarian wing of the Democrat party. They have kept from you the countless hours of sworn testimony before legislatures in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan and Arizona, which presented accounts of fraud or the great likelihood of fraud.

You would also then have absolutely no awareness of what can happen at the joint session of Congress, when according to the constitution Congress has to accept and tally the votes of each state’s electors.
None of those things actually happened though did they.

Where is your proof other than the words from the tiny handed Cheeto?
 
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Texas also has surging infections and dying people. It’s not something to rejoice about unless you’re brainwashed with that extremist anti-science The Awakening nonsense.


The Awakening, sometimes hashtagged Great Awakening, for those who haven’t noticed it, is a religious revivalist movement that comes and goes in waves. Its followers call themselves ‘light workers’, ‘healers’ or ‘patriots’. The most recent version uses right wing talking points, conspiracy theories against science and tech companies, fear mongering about vaccines and 5G, and preys upon a mostly female stay at home audience such as single mothers, old women and bored celebrities. It will most likely inspire moments of home grown terrorism, such as attacks on 5G antennas and perhaps the suicide bomber in Nashville last week.

One of their strategies is to scream censorship despite the massive amount of misinformation they post online, fake being oppressed and then ask followers to subscribe to mailing lists. The emails are harvested and sold to scammers and ransomware threats are sent out to subscribers.

and do please remind me who was responsible for the riots and destruction of businesses starting in the Spring and progressing through the Summer? And while you're at it, please remind me who is toppling statues all over the country? (Similar to what Al Qaeda, the Taliban and ISIS do in the countries in which they operate) And please, while you're at it, remind me of who was responsible for toppling of a statue of Abraham Lincoln in Boston, toppled because it was deemed "racist". "Right-wingers"? "Patriots"? Hmmmm?
 
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