Please do remind me... Who are out in force waving their guns around and smashing windows because they have to wear a mask?
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Weird. In many cases, suicide is caused by social isolation. There is no greater good here. 10 Liberal Tears points for trying to sound concerned, though. Kek.
You don’t even live in the US so how does it affect you in any way? I guess black people scare you.
Maybe, but that's a point we can debate without suggesting he was *also* saying "covid's ability to infect" depends on the reason for a gathering, which I hope we can agree is not actually his point.
One absolutely could conclude based on what we've seen with COVID that gatherings for any reason whatsoever are so dangerous that they should be impermissible right now. There are plenty of people making that argument and it has advantages, including creating the bright line your comments appear to seek. We are in a pandemic, so everything that creates a potential exposure should immediately cease.
Another view is that gatherings are generally problematic, but justifiable for certain purposes and under certain conditions. That view compromises public safety to an extent, but attempts to prioritize other issues of importance. That's a more challenging exercise, but it recognizes that even in a pandemic, life must continue. If that's your view, there is nothing inherently problematic with the view you commented on, which was "there is a big difference between protesting the continued unjust murders of black people to simply breaking the law because you want to go and drink with your friends." There are differences between those two things, and one might actually be more important than the other. It's also worth noting that protests tend to occur outside while parties tend to occur inside, so the former create less exposure than the latter, all else being equal.
Incidentally, that type of line-drawing is not a "leftist" view, since it has been used in support of political protests (and rallies, etc.) on issues across the political spectrum, and for various "essential" activity exemptions, re-openings, etc. One can reasonably believe COVID is extremely serious and still recognize that absolutism imposes costs of its own. And if you do that, you have to weigh the relative importance of would-be exceptions. So if he's "justifying why it's okay for a certain group to be out there but not another," as you say, maybe its not because he's applying a COVID double-standard, but rather because he favors nuance over absolutism and believes the BLM protests supported a worthwhile cause.
Edit - No text. Delete this response Not worth the political dialogue on a tech board.
You said it far better than I could have ever imagined doing so myself!
Yep, the hypocrisy is strong in this thread.
BLM and Antifa were proud to gather and do violence, many without masks.
And yet "regular citizens" don't have the same right to gather and associate? WTF is wrong with this picture?
They're still calling car accidents, broken legs, kitchen burns, and gang shootings, "Covid related". Until this stops, it's all fake and any "death count" is just a sick fantasy by those who think they can politically or financially profit from the pandemic.
The government doesn't have the right to tell anybody what is preferred behavior and what is prohibited behavior.
You're giving up not only your own rights, but mine too. And you don't have the right to do that; not under the Constitution.
I recommend that you re-read the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the Federalist Papers and relearn (or learn for the first time) why our founding fathers set up things the way they did.
Sure. It just proves that Liberals are right, there IS such a thing as "Natural Selection".
I don't accept your false premise, although you're pretty good at it; almost as good as President Obama was.
We are killing ourselves as a nation by killing our economy and our ability to feed and protect ourselves and our families. It's worst in democrat-run cities and states. Acknowledging that and being against it does not mean I'm a "friend of infectious parties".
But humans are by nature social creatures. Endless lockdowns and quarrantines are killing us, but it's hurting far far more than the 1% that the Covid kills.
As I said above, this is all fake. They're still counting hangnails as Covid cases. If the numbers aren't reliable (and they are not), then I might as well just make up my own.
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Texas per capita has not done poorly relative to other states. The point of the original poster was CA is draconian while FL and TX are not and there is little statistically meaningful difference in their numbers. This data is freely available to anyone. When you go further and review countries their actual policies seem to have less impact than we would hope. Which...is exactly what you would expect with a virus and policy implemented as a balance of political calculation.
This is such an idiotic argument, I struggle to accept you actually believe it. Of course the reason matters. Why can you go to the grocery store but not the club? Obviously because the reasons are different—necessary sustenance vs. unnecessary merriment. People made less of a stink about the protests because it was seen as a necessary response to injustice. You can disagree with that, but you can't possibly argue that people protesting are morally equivalent to kids partying.
Also, the vast majority of BLM protesters were wearing masks at all times and obviously all the protests were outdoors, which dramatically reduced the transmission risk. And indeed, the data shows that the protests did not lead to a spike in Covid cases. Something tells me these entitled tweens weren't doing the same.
Did you read the article?
"[T]he app billed itself as a place to organize and attend secret parties, with its now-defunct website using the tagline 'Get your rebel on. Get your party on.'"
"Approved invitees then received the event address two hours before the party was due to start."
Thank you!
And let's all not forget, even the "feelings-centric" democrat party doesn't care about every life. Not really. Remember, this is the party that wanted to create "Death Panels" under Obamacare. One of their city mayors threatened nuclear warfare against American citizens. Within the continental US!
So if they take power in January, I give it a few months before they pivot and start saying, in perfect harmony with former President Obama's saying. Yep, people who come down with Covid will "just be sent home with a pain pill" because we can't afford to treat EVERYBODY. Yep, it'll happen. Threatening people who get the virus. Threatening people who want to live normal lives.
Aside from the controlling nature of the dem-run cities and states, it's all the shaming that is the saddest part to me. The dems sure seem to have succeeded in getting us to fight against each other, rather than stand up for the right things. So many of you are engaging in regular peddling of false premises, shaming and shutting down your fellow Americans!
We seem to be so far beyond finding any kind of common ground now. Real things could be done, like demanding that we properly count covid cases (and votes, for that matter), and punishing criminals and not letting them out of prison before their sentences are served.
I'll close with this: They'll let the criminals out of jail but want to put you in jail for having a Christmas party with 4 of your dearest family or friends? They shame you for wanting to eat at a restaurant and won't let you buy GARDEN SEEDS in your Home Depot? Garden seeds, really, Governor Whittmer?
How can anybody ignore the evidence that your government keepers want to control every aspect of our lives? And how can you be so weak-hearted as to just agree to go along with being kept like a pet in a guilded cage; forced to be muzzled every time you need to go outside?
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Lol literally 3 sentences in and your credibility is blown to bits. The only person who ever talked about "death panels" is disgraced former governor and current conspiracy theory nutjob Sarah Palin, and she was lying through her teeth.
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Yep, the hypocrisy is strong in this thread.
BLM and Antifa were proud to gather and do violence, many without masks.
And yet "regular citizens" don't have the same right to gather and associate? WTF is wrong with this picture?
If having an election stolen in such an obvious way DOESN'T make you angry, then you're more of a man than Antifa and BLM. But then one must ask onesself, just when IS the use of force warranted?
He did win. It's being stolen.
He has plausible accusations. It's just a fact.
No, he won. They stopped the vote counting and prevented witnesses from seeing what was going on. In the occasional instances where they WERE able to see, they saw ballots marked only for Biden (with no downparty votes recorded) being pulled out from bags and boxes that could not have come from the precincts.
This was stolen. It should concern EVERYBODY, not just the people who wanted Trump to win, because now it means that we CAN'T remove somebody from office at the ballot box. If our government minders decide on somebody, we now CAN'T mathematically prevent that from happening.
Even if you are a democrat, even if you wanted Biden/Harris, YOUR VOTE has also been stolen. Or at least watered down. In 20-30 years when you want to vote against the "government preferred" candidate, your vote won't matter because there will ALWAYS be enough votes to make you, as a voter and a citizen, mathematically irrelevant.
They're still calling car accidents, broken legs, kitchen burns, and gang shootings, "Covid related". Until this stops, it's all fake and any "death count" is just a sick fantasy by those who think they can politically or financially profit from the pandemic.
The government doesn't have the right to tell anybody what is preferred behavior and what is prohibited behavior.
You're giving up not only your own rights, but mine too. And you don't have the right to do that; not under the Constitution.
I recommend that you re-read the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the Federalist Papers and relearn (or learn for the first time) why our founding fathers set up things the way they did.
Sure. It just proves that Liberals are right, there IS such a thing as "Natural Selection".
I don't accept your false premise, although you're pretty good at it; almost as good as President Obama was.
We are killing ourselves as a nation by killing our economy and our ability to feed and protect ourselves and our families. It's worst in democrat-run cities and states. Acknowledging that and being against it does not mean I'm a "friend of infectious parties".
But humans are by nature social creatures. Endless lockdowns and quarrantines are killing us, but it's hurting far far more than the 1% that the Covid kills.
As I said above, this is all fake. They're still counting hangnails as Covid cases. If the numbers aren't reliable (and they are not), then I might as well just make up my own.
Yep, Trump won, and the swamp is stealing the election to give it to the guy who could barely get a dozen people to attend his rallies.
The "notmypresident" and "resist" people didn't understand how the Electoral College works, which is high school civics 101. In no cases were they trying to claim that the vote itself was improperly conducted or counted; they were just whining because they didn't understand how their government is structured.
Wow, just wow. Scientists should study your mind, it's fascinating how it's wired. There has to be something interesting there.
We should have sent more troops over along time ago, but hey that was our mistake.
The people I saw marching in protests locally (and many of the ones I saw on TV) for BLM were all wearing masks, were outside, and were socially distanced as singles or family groups, and were doing it as a political protest against horrible things the police had done.
Do you really want to try to convince me that that people going to these secretive underground parties for fun are doing so outside, wearing masks, and maintaining social distance at all times?
I’ll tell you a problem with the country today: moral equivalence. Comparing small problems against egregious problems and then saying, “see, both sides do it.”
No, they aren’t. They’re all real and it looks like vastly undercounted.
And, no, it isn’t fake. There’s 300,000 excess deaths from projections. That’s real.
The numbers are reliable.
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Uhhh. Yes they both have. Texas has 10 million less people, less cases, and more deaths. Florida has 20 million less people, 1 million less cases, and only 3000 less deaths.
That’s a huge statistical difference. Someone here is doing something right, and someone is doing something wrong. And a little hint... it ain’t California doing something wrong.
First of all, it was a lot more than forced labor. They were told what to say, when to say it, where to sleep, what to eat, who to sleep with, how to speak, what to wear, when to get up, when to go to bed, etc. My point was that a lot of people seem to not be concerned with treating people any different than slaves now that it is the government instead of some land owner making the harsh rules.
That aside it is not the real issue.
If you want to be protected, take the vaccine. Why should anyone care what others do?
Let me answer that. Because a lot of people are the mouthpiece for some rather heavy handed government propaganda and don't even realize it. There is enough bad data about covid to cause anyone with a questioning mind to wonder what is really going on.
Giving up freedoms based on bad data is a losing deal all around. But without questioning it, a lot of people will never know until it is too late. Once the freedoms are gone, only a war will bring them back.
Why is anyone so sure the government is right? It is not like the government has a history of doing the right thing, or telling the truth, following the law, providing transparency, etc. The list of government failures is long. In general people trust the government less than used car sales people. Yet some, here act like the government is perfect in this case. Why? Fear! Government and media generated fear.
No, what the politicians and the people that support them what is control. They want to be the nanny. They want to use high handedness to somehow make them superior and powerful.
So why should you care if people party? They get sick, they die, problem solved. Except, of course, that they won't die except in rare circumstance and this embarrasses the power hungry government dictators and the cash hungry pharmaceutical companies that require the truth to be suppressed.
That clearly went over your head.
I’m referring to masking and social distancing which is a lot more mandatory in states like California than a non-lockdowned state like Texas. A red state like Texas should be leading in cases in comparison to a HEAVILY mandated state like Cali.
Does the thought of black people scare you too? How is comparing an app for organizing parties during a pandemic even come close to an app organizing peaceful protests outdoors? Did you put any thought into your response?
The op is clearly in the wrong with their thinking here, and I do side with you.
But it’s not a US centric issue. The Black Live Matter movement is worldwide, and there were protests world wide in direct retaliation to the US issue that kick started these current protests, along with similar- though mainly far less barbaric- issues in their own respective counties with the over use of police force.
It has to do with everyone in the world. Please don’t assume racism has nothing to do with anyone else.
Oh boy...That clearly went over your head.
No, but Apple did close apps in which they organised parties, especially if they included drinking games or the use of a kazoo.