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Apple Pulls iOS 16.2 Option to Upgrade to New Home Architecture

I had issues too. My partner was removed and I can’t invite back. Apple has really gone downhill in the last few years. Software quality is abysmal and hardware… well hardware has just stopped being developed. They just release the same phone and watch with a different name and pretend it’s a new one (there is one new thing, the price is increased).
 
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We have to stop the frenzy of updating, moreover for solutions like karaoke, which are completely useless.
Before updating, read the compatibility of the new features with the old hw Apple: often it's not really worth it. What's the point of updating HomePod if you then lose compatibility with the Mac that can't run Ventura or with Apple Watch that no longer recognises commands: it only makes sense for Apple to sell that garbage that packs every year.
I have Mac PPC, Intel, Arm, several AirPorts, different Apple TVs, numerous watches, phones, iPad, CarPlay, services like iTunes Match that not even Apple knows it has (apart from when it has to cash in the money), will I ever be able to go crazy with the nonsense of the last engineer hired for 3 months in Cupertino? You have to think about protecting your products, Apple doesn't care.
 
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It was a no-go for me anyway. Not all my devices are running macOS/iOS versions that are compatible with whatever Apple changed, and some never will. My primary MacBook Pro is going to be running 10.14 forever, I have no intention of losing access to 32-bit software. And the home app works just fine on it now, why would I break that?
 
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The new architecture is far more responsive, usually hue lights would come on or go off just after Siri says they are, now they come on and go off before Siri is able to finish saying it.

So far no more hmmm, lights are taking a while to respond or not responding at all but turns them on or off anyway so far.

While me as the owner upgraded without issues I have one other person added to control devices and that part of the upgrade didn’t go well, for one they got kicked out of the home so it was just me as the only user and when I tried adding them back it never sent the invite or when I accepted they showed up as a user for a few seconds then vanished.

Only way to fix this issue as many others seem to have to do when doing this home upgrade looking online was power off every Apple device that worked as a hub, so all HomePods, Apple TVs and even iPhones and iPads even though iPads shouldn’t act as a hub anymore.

Only power up one hub and the main iPhone that’s sending the invites and the other that’s accepting them and magically the invite was sent and accepted perfectly and everything worked fine, just had to switch back on every other Apple device once again. I bet this ridiculous bug is one reason this upgrade was pulled. Overall though this upgrade seems to be a massive improvement so far.
 
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iSRS said:
The fact that you’re starting fresh is probably the key. Nothing to replace Or go wrong on update.


well, it is architecture. I mean, you can’t revert to your old home once you tear it down. You have to rebuild from scratch. Even if you rebuild ever minor detail and error, it’s still not reverting. It’s new.

same with code. An upgrade? Can keep many things in place. But once you start, you can’t go back without starting over, which causes… (emphasis mine)






overall, I get the frustration. We use Apple products and hold them to higher standards, standards they historically have set.

but let’s not pretend the other home automation/voice assistants are infallible. I’m cons reading certain smart plugs to the Alexa app.

if anything, this reinforces the reason Apple doesn’t go third party for its Macs. Too many variables
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Of course, by the fact we are on this forum means we (should) have some understanding of limitations. But it’s hard trying to convince family members of the benefits when the basics don’t work
 
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Aaaaand this is why I didn’t update my iPhone to 16.2 lol. Thank god!
If they work out some of the bugs and re-enable the option for 16.2.1 I’ll reconsider!
 
I upgraded my Home to the new architecture and it was painless. I just made sure all my devices where running 16.2 and macOS 13.1, then restarted my HomeHubs after the upgrade was done. It's been absolutely flawless since and have noticed a real difference to the overall performance and reliability of my HomeKit Home.
 
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A steady downward slide is how I’d characterize it. Apple needs to get their software act together. HomeKit isn’t the only 16.X related nightmare.
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If they just do the same thing again next year of ignoring core functionality and just announcing dozens of weird features no one asked for that they can’t even get working properly on time, I’m going to really start questioning the leadership there. It seems they’re learning nothing. They really need a Snow Leopard year but lately they just can’t seem to focus on anything that’s not a flashy new feature.
 
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Powerbooky said:
Losing connections is more likely to be an issue with the network itself. Wifi AP not correctly handling mDNS broadcasts, too much interference from neighbouring Wifi or even worse... too much Wifi AP's in the house incorrectly configured (often the case with ISP provided crap).
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Never had any problems until the HomeKit update. And the WiFi has never been an issue since I live alone, little neighboring wifi, one AP. They connect to WiFi but won't stay linked as a pair, so the app often says "configuring" and when I ask to play something only one will play or it just says there is a problem and to try again.
 
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What I find more odd than these issues being reported, is that it's not consistent across the board. I updated all of the iDevices and Macs in our home, and updated HomeKit right then as well. This is 2 iPhones, 3 iPads, 3 Apple TV's, and 2 Macs, along with 3 OG HomePods. I use a Stereo Paired set of HomePods for one of our Apple TVs. No issues at all.. In fact, I find 16.2 to be working really well for all of us here.

I think it's more strange that we'd have 13 iDevices in our home, and not a single issue. I come to this forum and we're on page 4 of folks reporting issues.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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I don't think the new architecture is the problem or the reason why they pulled the upgrade option. They likely pulled it because the upgrade process itself isn't smooth and is creating a lot of complaints.

It was tricky to upgrade for me, but since I got over the process it has been pretty great and extremely reliable.
 
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User 6502 said:
I had issues too. My partner was removed and I can’t invite back. Apple has really gone downhill in the last few years. Software quality is abysmal and hardware… well hardware has just stopped being developed. They just release the same phone and watch with a different name and pretend it’s a new one (there is one new thing, the price is increased).
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It’s so funny that people think other companies have not also all gone downhill.

If Apple has gone downhill (and I would argue it has not), then every other company has gone downhill by significantly more.

The grass is not greener outside of the Apple walled garden. You’re just trading one set of yellowed grass for another.

I prefer the way Apple yellows compared to other companies.

Source: been following Apple since I was 3.
 
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The same had happened in the upgrade from os14 to os15, without ‘changes of architecture’ (or nonsense). Apple has a serious quality problem, but it won't tackle it as long as there are those who “Hey, Dynamic Island! Hey, the Ultra watch!”. Let's see how long it lasts. The time of a serious problem (a set of important bugs to the ARM platform) and I want to see who they are addressing, having finished competitors and not having a knowledgable sw branch.
 
It did not work smoothly for me. No one else in the house could see anything and all my wemo plugs wouldn’t be recognized. I had to basically wipe the house and start over minus the plugs. It worked after that but it was not a seamless process to be sure.
 
fwmireault said:
I didn't have any issue with the change of architecture on my side. To be honest, I don't see any difference anyway. I hope that Apple will address the situation shortly for people who have issues with that update.
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About a week before 16.2 released I had issues with my HomePods signing out but not letting me sign back in even though the message told me I needed to and Siri would respond with “Hmm… there seems to be a problem with your iCloud account. Check the settings in the Home app for more details”.

I had to fully reset both speakers and setup new again. I installed 16.2 a week later (last night) and it seemed to go smoothly. Home Upgrade option completed. I haven’t used anything enough to tell a difference either.
 
Looks like Apple has enough unwitting public beta testers to try to figure out these problems now.
 
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brian3uk said:
Good. My HomePods lose their pairing all the time and randomly don’t work. AppleTV turns on by itself. I’ve got opinions on Apple’s software quality and 16.2 just reinforces those opinions. 😒
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What’s funny about these kinds of posts is it reveals your lack of Wifi setup expertise.

I will just chime in here like all of you and say, my entire HomeKit setup has ALWAYS worked, all devices are responsive, and anytime they aren’t? It’s because of my internet connection becoming unstable, not because of Homekit.

Everyone please cry more it’s hilarious.
 
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PauloSera said:
FFS Apple. Whatever you have started to prioritize in the hiring process in the last half a decade...it has PROVEN not to work. Go back to hiring the best people for the job please.
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Right… it hasn’t worked at all… not like Apple isn’t performing better than it ever has financially.

If everyone cared about these things so much, why don’t they vote with their wallet?
 
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