Think of how many of us men won't get laid because of this. Way to go
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Apple Pulls Match.com iOS App over External Subscription Links
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eharmony and match.com = a joke
poor suckers who waste money at dating sites
i meet chicks all the time without paying for it
eharmony and match.com = a joke
poor suckers who waste money at dating sites
i meet chicks all the time without paying for it
Match.com already has a service they sell outside the app store. Its not like they are making money just from being in the app store.
I stand corrected. I had assumed that you were agreeing with wikus when you repeated seemed to defend the Android marketplace. I misinterpreted your intent.
UPDATE: See retraction below.
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Relax. They only pulled match.com, not Grindr.
(couldn't resist the joke, sorry!)
GREEN4U said:Think of how many of us men won't get laid because of this. Way to go
Relax. They only pulled match.com, not Grindr.
(couldn't resist the joke, sorry!)
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Actually, I retract my correction
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=13949303#post13949315
Can you read again the conversation? Can you point where I say that there is more revenue in the Android Market than in the App Store?
At Apple size and power no way in hell they have not gotten a reduced rate and chances are do not have the fix cost charge.
Also does not get around the fact that Apple is charging a 30% cut which kills the margins of a lot of companies. That 30% gross cuts all their margins and then some.
If Apple allowed an option to use someone else then there would not be the complaining about this. The fact that Apple is the only way to charge threw anything on iOS.
But seeing as you do not understand this logic or lock in because it points at massive problems in Apple system.....
I don't have to. Your side in the entire convo was directed either at the superiority of the Android marketplace or in disputing whether the facts show AppStores prominence were true. You asked where you said there was more money in the marketplace and I showed you. Now you want to claim a different intent. I'll leave it to other readers to reread what you said and see what impression they got.
In the heat of the moment, you may have made an impression you didn't intend, but, to me, the impression was clear.
The conclusion is that you can't understand a simple conversation?
I'll leave it to other readers toi reread what you have said and see what impression they got.
If they didn't have some fixed charge, I doubt they would consolidate iTunes transactions.
Do you believe that Target is wrong by demanding a 30%+ margin? Is Ebay wrong by charging the fees I outlined? I Amazon wrong for following the same model?
Considering Apple takes care of marketing, distribution and will get much more exposure, developers still make quite a profit off of it.
But considering Apple put in the capitol, took all the risks, and now developers want to cash in on that success and get their cut of Apples money making machine.
The app store is probably much better deal for the single small developer. Large companies not so much, but they have quite a lot of money to begin with.
Easily be part of the argeement Apple has with the CC company to combined when possible.
You are confusing two different things.
It is not the 30% cut that is the problem. It is requiring that they using Apple's system and no other. That is the issue. The 30% cut on in app purchases and requiring all in App purchases be run threw Apple's system is the problem.
It seems you can not understand that little issue. It not the 30% cut but requiring that you use Apple system and the 30% cut. If it was 5% for in app and required Apple system it would be fine or 30% but you can use 3rd party systems.
Either would be fine but they are requiring 30% and the use of Apple system.
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What marketing? (answer is none.)
What distribution of in app purchases? (Answer is None)
This is about in app purchases.
Small devs fine.
Big guys, requiring in app purchases go threw App = losing money on everything.
It is about giving the OPTION to use another system. That or charge a more reasonable rate for requiring to use Apple's system (5%)
An option outside the App store? If that were the case, it would be like giving them free advertising. Put an app in the store, with all proceeds going to the service they are selling.
Losing money on it? I don't believe that. Making less profit on it. Nothings for free.
They are still making a profit off of it. While not the amount they would make just selling the service from their website.
Marketing? itunes store, The App store, the more iPhones & iPad advertized/sold more chance your app will get seen and purchased.
Distribution comes from being downloaded from the itunes and app store. Which includes their app being on their icloud service and auto updates.
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Then you really have no idea how thin some margins are.
Take for example things like netflex. They operated on less than a 10% margin. Apple 30% cut would of been meaning they were eating a 15% loss for each customer who used iOS for subscritions. (10%+5% credit card giveback -30% apple cut)= 15% loss.
Anyone who runs on less than a 25% margin would be losing money.
I also think it is funny that you think the the App store is advertisement. That pond has so many fish in it that you have to spend money to advertises in it.
Also in your view that means companies have to pay Apple for its advertisement. (Words largest app store. or X number of Apps, there is an App for that. 99.9% of those apps Apple is talking about are NOT made by Apple.)
Help cut out the app store
This is the reason that I do not like the app store. The 3rd party developers are what makes the iPod Touch, iPad & iPhone what it is. The Apple app store makes it more difficult to use many of the apps the way they are meant to be used. I know that the change in the Kindle cut out of in app purchases changed nothing. That is because I always get my Kindle books straight from Amazon. I would never think of going though Apple for them. Why should I have to pay a 30% Apple tax when Apple should not be any part of this transaction. Also Apple has gotten some to the ebook producers to not allow the book to be sold for a discounted price. For one thing this means that the paper version of the book will many times be cheaper than the much cheaper to produce & ship ebook. Apple has already screwed up the ebook area enough. We need them to get out of that area. The iBooks will not even have a version that can be natively read on the Mac let alone on a Windows computer.
Companies want to better serve their customers. With the lack of in app purchasing without paying the 30% Apple tax does a very effective stop in making their service not as good as it should be.
I have over 600 apps on our various iToys. Of that less than 6 are paid for apps. So does the app store actually help anyone. In my case probably not. The most expensive program is one that is made by FileMakerGo. So Apple gets the whole thing. The others are spreadsheet programs. But none of them are any part of the iWork suite. We've been shown by the lack of any updates for them on the Mac that they are really meant for file transfer programs. Thus allowing us to save to any format other than the Numbers, Page or KeyNote formats.
Apple has shown that when it gets big that it is just like MicroSoft.
These boards need to take Mac out of their name if they are going to always be all things other than Mac. I thought that it was bad when the iPo was the only iToy. I own several but the articles I want to read are articles about the Mac. iToy articles are in general boring. Having a whole section on iPad or iPhone cases is a prime example of how boring this area is.
The Mac App store has only one program in it that I would & have already purchased. That is the Mac OS 10.7 Lion update. But all of its updates still come from outside the Mac App Store. For someone that doesn't want their Mac to turn into a large iToy, there is little or nothing useful in Lion. I even installed Lion for some reason. For that reason I have been trying to use it. But that just seems to waste my time & make my work harder. But just like the lack of in app purchases frustrates the end user Lion seems to be there to keep the experience the same. Thus much frustration even without using the App Store.
This is the reason that I do not like the app store. The 3rd party developers are what makes the iPod Touch, iPad & iPhone what it is. The Apple app store makes it more difficult to use many of the apps the way they are meant to be used. I know that the change in the Kindle cut out of in app purchases changed nothing. That is because I always get my Kindle books straight from Amazon. I would never think of going though Apple for them. Why should I have to pay a 30% Apple tax when Apple should not be any part of this transaction. Also Apple has gotten some to the ebook producers to not allow the book to be sold for a discounted price. For one thing this means that the paper version of the book will many times be cheaper than the much cheaper to produce & ship ebook. Apple has already screwed up the ebook area enough. We need them to get out of that area. The iBooks will not even have a version that can be natively read on the Mac let alone on a Windows computer.
Companies want to better serve their customers. With the lack of in app purchasing without paying the 30% Apple tax does a very effective stop in making their service not as good as it should be.
I have over 600 apps on our various iToys. Of that less than 6 are paid for apps. So does the app store actually help anyone. In my case probably not. The most expensive program is one that is made by FileMakerGo. So Apple gets the whole thing. The others are spreadsheet programs. But none of them are any part of the iWork suite. We've been shown by the lack of any updates for them on the Mac that they are really meant for file transfer programs. Thus allowing us to save to any format other than the Numbers, Page or KeyNote formats.
Apple has shown that when it gets big that it is just like MicroSoft.
These boards need to take Mac out of their name if they are going to always be all things other than Mac. I thought that it was bad when the iPo was the only iToy. I own several but the articles I want to read are articles about the Mac. iToy articles are in general boring. Having a whole section on iPad or iPhone cases is a prime example of how boring this area is.
The Mac App store has only one program in it that I would & have already purchased. That is the Mac OS 10.7 Lion update. But all of its updates still come from outside the Mac App Store. For someone that doesn't want their Mac to turn into a large iToy, there is little or nothing useful in Lion. I even installed Lion for some reason. For that reason I have been trying to use it. But that just seems to waste my time & make my work harder. But just like the lack of in app purchases frustrates the end user Lion seems to be there to keep the experience the same. Thus much frustration even without using the App Store.
You guys need to step it up and find the REAL gems out there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bomkgXeDkE
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Match.com pays more than 30% to some affiliates for sign ups so it seems like match.com will get on board.
Match.com pays more than 30% to some affiliates for sign ups so it seems like match.com will get on board.