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That refers to numbers of phones operating, not apps. Most Android apps are free, $0 to developer for sales.

And you don't think the number of phones on a particular operating system has anything to do with potential revenue or number of sales? 42% vs 28% is a pretty big margin.
 
This, I will agree with. Though the figures for that would be interesting to know as well.

Doesnt matter a whole lot now though, more people are on android than on any other platform. Even Steve Wozniak said Android would 'win' the mobile devices race.

Actually, also factually incorrect. If you include all iOS devices (mobile devices) iOS still leads. That is also shown in iOS internet ratings as well.

Edit: Okay, why the down vote? Am I factually incorrect? Or do you just not like the truth? Or are you just down voting me :p
 
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And you don't think the number of phones on a particular operating system has anything to do with potential revenue or number of sales? 42% vs 28% is a pretty big margin.
Thought we were talking about actual revenue. As an accountant, I can assure you "potential" means as much as the electrons used to store the typed word on MR's server. And potential revenue of free apps is still $0, regardless of units "sold".

Of note, Apple also makes over 50% of all profit (not revenue) for the entire phone industry. If you want to start talking about company survival, just take the easy way and be happy about Apple.
 
And you don't think the number of phones on a particular operating system has anything to do with potential revenue or number of sales? 42% vs 28% is a pretty big margin.

Actually, I don't. Mac users have traditionally spent more per-capita on software then PC users. Same with iOS. I think we use our devices more. My friends with iPhones have more paid Apps then my friends with Android. More apps over all.

I have also noticed that iPhone users are actually more aware of their phone. Most of my friends with Android are far less attached to their phones.
 
Actually, I don't. Mac users have traditionally spent more per-capita on software then PC users. Same with iOS. I think we use our devices more. My friends with iPhones have more paid Apps then my friends with Android. More apps over all.

I have also noticed that iPhone users are actually more aware of their phone. Most of my friends with Android are far less attached to their phones.

It also helps that Android comes with a lot more apps which you need to buy on iphone for example Sat Nav, I imagine a lot of the iphone app store revenue comes from those kind of applications.
 
And you don't think the number of phones on a particular operating system has anything to do with potential revenue or number of sales? 42% vs 28% is a pretty big margin.

We’ve been writing a lot lately about the rise of Android, with some estimates showing that Google’s mobile operating system now accounts for the majority of smartphone sales. But market share only tells part of the story. A report released this week by Piper Jaffray shows that Apple is still the place to be for those developers who want to make money off their mobile applications.

According to the report, rouoghly 85 percent and 90 percent of the total dollars spent on mobile applications occurs within Apple’s iOS environment. In fact, Gene Munster of Piper Jaffray notes that iOS app developers have made more than $3.4 billion this year.

That compares to just $239 million for Google app developers. Interestingly, Munster found that just 1.3 percent of Android apps are paid, while 13.5 percent of Apple apps have a price tag.


From http://www.geekwire.com/2011/apple-ios-developers-money-android-developers
 
We’ve been writing a lot lately about the rise of Android, with some estimates showing that Google’s mobile operating system now accounts for the majority of smartphone sales. But market share only tells part of the story. A report released this week by Piper Jaffray shows that Apple is still the place to be for those developers who want to make money off their mobile applications.

According to the report, rouoghly 85 percent and 90 percent of the total dollars spent on mobile applications occurs within Apple’s iOS environment. In fact, Gene Munster of Piper Jaffray notes that iOS app developers have made more than $3.4 billion this year.

That compares to just $239 million for Google app developers. Interestingly, Munster found that just 1.3 percent of Android apps are paid, while 13.5 percent of Apple apps have a price tag.


From http://www.geekwire.com/2011/apple-ios-developers-money-android-developers

Sorry, using Gene Munster for anything is wasting time.
 
It also helps that Android comes with a lot more apps which you need to buy on iphone for example Sat Nav, I imagine a lot of the iphone app store revenue comes from those kind of applications.

Sales of navigation apps on iOS are far from the top of the charts...

There are way more $1 apps and games generating revenue than navigation apps.
 
It also helps that Android comes with a lot more apps which you need to buy on iphone for example Sat Nav, I imagine a lot of the iphone app store revenue comes from those kind of applications.
You really hate Apple and its products, eh? Why come here to complain about them? Android actually does have many websites to glorify and swoon about your phone. Enjoy.

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Sorry, using Gene Munster for anything is wasting time.
His facts should be fine. It's his predictions that are pointless.
 
You really hate Apple and its products, eh? Why come here to complain about them? Android actually does have many websites to glorify and swoon about your phone. Enjoy.

Some people feel that being critical and derogatory actually means they are sophisticated and intellectually superior. Those same people tend to dismiss facts counter to their core beliefs and to name-call those with different sensibilities. You see it in politics a lot.
 
His facts should be fine. It's his predictions that are pointless.

Well, in the report that has been posted the facts are wrong.

There are a lot more than 1.3% and 13.5% of free apps in the two markets.

And the revenue is not only on paid apps, there is no mention about ad revenue, in app purchasing, etc.
 
Sorry, using Gene Munster for anything is wasting time.

iOS devs made $3.4 Billion

Android devs made $239 million

It seems that iOS apps generate 14 times as much revenue as Android apps... unless there is a billion dollar margin of error.... :D

Also this:
The findings seem to mirror comments made by Seattle mobile app developer Michael Schneider who noted on the GeekWire podcast in August that his apps sell better on the iPhone than they do on Android devices.
 
Well, in the report that has been posted the facts are wrong.

There are a lot more than 1.3% and 13.5% of free apps in the two markets

And the revenue is not only on paid apps, there is no mention about ad revenue, in app purchasing, etc.
You have that reversed, I think. Those figures are the percent of "purchased" apps that cost money, not the free ones. Also, it is not available apps, but actually bought.

Interesting that ASP (average sales price?) is higher on Android, but so few actually sold for money that there isn't much earnings.

I would think in-app purchases would be included, but don't know.
 
Well, in the report that has been posted the facts are wrong.

There are a lot more than 1.3% and 13.5% of free apps in the two markets.

And the revenue is not only on paid apps, there is no mention about ad revenue, in app purchasing, etc.

He said "PAID" apps.
 
Apple gave the world the iPhone, iPad, and iPod on a shoe-string R&D budget, spending only $500 million in 2006 and $800 million in 2007. This year Apple spent $2.4 billion on R&D. In fact Apple's previous 10 year's R & D investment is only about 10 billion dollar combined.

Compared this to Samsung's R & D investment, in first 9 months of the year itself it has invested 6.5 billion dollars in R & D. Its track record has been the same all previous years. Apart from this Samsung has already invested 14 billion dollars in facilities upgrade and going to invest another 14 billion dollar in next 3 months. The amount easily exceeds 34 billion dollars ( much more than Apple inc's entire profit of 25 billion dollar last year). So what if Samsung decides to forego all these investments and just add these in their profit, their profit will be two times of that Apple's.

Samsung do have their fingers in a lot more technological pies than Apple however. But I do think that many people on this forum think that Samsung is a lot smaller company than it actually is. Whereas Apple focus for more on core products and expand their offerings very cautiously.

Apple are currently very good at taking an existing technology and making it easy to use. I.e., there are internet connected TVs on the market today with features comparable to those that the Apple TV has, however the interfaces aren't as slick or easy to use. However in three year's time Apple will be deemed the inventor of the internet TV if they bring out a TV next year, however what they will have done is make something more accessible than it was before. However I suspect that all the major TV manufacturers are working on their next generation products for launch next year, and a few of them will surely get the interface and feature-set right.

Then again arguably nobody else made an MP3 player as usable as the iPod...
 
You really hate Apple and its products, eh? Why come here to complain about them? Android actually does have many websites to glorify and swoon about your phone. Enjoy.

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His facts should be fine. It's his predictions that are pointless.

I have quite a few Apple products which date back a long time.
 
Also this:
The findings seem to mirror comments made by Seattle mobile app developer Michael Schneider who noted on the GeekWire podcast in August that his apps sell better on the iPhone than they do on Android devices.

Well, Rovio said it make more revenue from the free app in Android than the paid App in iOS.
 
Another pathetic move by Apple to throw their weight around. Now that they finally after so many years have something that everyone+dog must have, they are being very protective over it, but in this case they are just bullying because they can.

What gets me though is that Apple are miffed at the design of the TABLET, which actually now looks absolutely nothing like an iPad. Its a black tablet with rounded corners, theres only so much you can do with that.

Apple would surely have more of a case if they went after the peripherals that come with it, such as the USB 'block' and overall packaging. Those are much more similar than the actual tablet.

Oh and before someone posts that stupid samsung image with all the copied things, crop out the 'Samsung Store' - its not a store, its from an unofficial trade show that was not authorized by Samsung, hence the AppStore icons all over the wall.

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Well, Rovio said it make more revenue from the free app in Android than the paid App in iOS.

Yup, very true.

My ONE Android app makes around 3/4 the amount my SIX iOS apps make. It never used to be the case, but slowly the Android Market has started picking up.
 
Mean while Amazon Fire is selling like hotcakes. Does Samsung really matter anymore? And the Asus transformer prime will be the new flavor of the month. You can't stop them all.

Who says Apple is trying to stop them all? Apple is objecting to outright copying of their patents. While there will be other tablets, they will need to be designed and developed ethically and with originality.
 
Well, Rovio said it make more revenue from the free app in Android than the paid App in iOS.

True... but Rovio is one developer out of thousands. Angry Birds is certainly a phenomenon... but the study was about overall revenue.

This is hard to ignore:

iOS devs made $3.4 Billion

Android devs made $239 million​
 
Another pathetic move by Apple to throw their weight around. Now that they finally after so many years have something that everyone+dog must have, they are being very protective over it, but in this case they are just bullying because they can.

What gets me though is that Apple are miffed at the design of the TABLET, which actually now looks absolutely nothing like an iPad. Its a black tablet with rounded corners, theres only so much you can do with that.

It's really much more then that and I'd think you'd know that.




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Yup, very true.

My ONE Android app makes around 3/4 the amount my SIX iOS apps make. It never used to be the case, but slowly the Android Market has started picking up.

Now we know why you are so butthurt that Apple is making it hard for Samsung to market a iPad ripoff.
 
True... but Rovio is one developer out of thousands. Angry Birds is certainly a phenomenon... but the study was about overall revenue.

Well, I didn't denied that iOS Market has more revenue, I was answering about your example of ONE developer.

I would like to know how Munster has arrived to that revenue figures

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Now we know why you are so butthurt that Apple is making it hard for Samsung to market a iPad ripoff.

What iPad rippoff?

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Another pathetic move by Apple to throw their weight around.

Pathetic? No, they think Samsung has infringed some patents, they have all the right to sue them
 
Mean while Amazon Fire is selling like hotcakes. Does Samsung really matter anymore? And the Asus transformer prime will be the new flavor of the month. You can't stop them all.

I imagine the iPad will dominate the high-end $500+ tablet market... and the Kindle Fire will eat up the low-end $200 market.

Where exactly does that leave all those Honeycomb/ICS tablets?

Priced too high and they are close to the iPad.... too low and they are close to the Fire.

We've seen what happens when you make a tablet the same price or higher than the iPad... no one buys it.

Now... they've gotta compete with Amazon.
 
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