it’s not black or white. A “reported” UI glitch could affect some “small” number of iPhone users. And then it’s true that there is a glitch but it’s not widespread.
That is your experience. Other people are having a more problematic experience.
Anecdotal is simply not good enough. Evidence is required. That's the core of the problem and that's why the likes of Apple probably pay little attention to forums - there's so much opinion backed up with little science.
You are not judge and jury.
Did I say I was? I was speaking generally. I will not comment further as it's totally pointless.
That's very kind. I know we all feel passionately about the ideas expressed here so there are bound to be strongly held views and people will defend their positions. I do try to listen to all sides and i agree with you - we all learn from each other. Thank you for your encouragement.Don't leave!
All are welcome!
I was just chuckling because you said you were done commenting on this topic yesterday ... and again today.
It's all good my friend.
Stay! Chat! We all learn from each other.
This is not a court of law, and when it comes to a producer-paying customer relationship, the last thing the producer wants to do is tell a customer reporting an issue that the burden is on them to convince the producer that a problem exists. It's not good business.
Now you are attacking people. You may be having a good experience, but others are not. It is not for you to pass judgment on others, and the comments cannot be dismissed out of hand.
Doh! I mis-read. Sorry about that. You're correct that the Apple Store app won't install on iOS 17.
I can run the Apple Support app on my iOS 17 device though [but unsure you meant to include that app]. But yeah, the shopping app is a no go to install, which is odd, as usually the App Store will offer an older version of an app that runs on one's current iOS version.
And other people are having a very good experience. But the points are:
If you read some of the comments, the bugs are serious enough to stop users from completing tasks.
As is typical with ios releases peoples experiences are all over the place. That was my point.
No, you were just maligning those who have stated they are experiencing issues.
No. What you call maligning I call stating that many of these “glitches” that people experience are anecdotal and / or very specific.
Same here. Mine does not show 18.7.3 update unless I opt in to “iOS 18 Beta” so I guess that is one possible way around the issue. Apple seems to care a lot less about getting users to patch vulnerabilities than getting them to update to 26 so they can tell us how wonderful it is that xx% of devices are running 26.