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My burning questions:

1) Who decided on the name change of Apple Computer Inc. to Apple Inc. ?

2) Was this decision voted by the board ?

3) Why was this decision not brought before the shareholders for a vote ?

edit: I think this is material and that all shareholders should have voted on an issue of this importance. What if the board (or Steve) decided to name the company something completely different?

Despite what Steve thinks, and the way he acts, this is a public company - no longer his own private kingdom being run from his garage!

Obviously the board decided on the name change (that is a board decision) and of course they voted on it. It was not brought before the shareholders for a vote because it was not necessary to do so. Had it been brought before the shareholders, and had all responded (fat chance) I'm fairly certain over 95% would have been in favor of the change since more accurately reflects the present and future direction of Apple into media and communication, and it certainly shouldn't decrease stock value. If you have more questions of this nature, read the Articles of Incorporation and By-Laws.
 
Last time I looked that was called a Democracy.

A few people making decisions for 5000000 without asking ... Last time I looked that was called a Dictatorship.

No, that's called a representative democracy (and it's the system of government in the US and other countries). A dictatorship is where one person rules with total authority.
 
possible releases?

Is it possible for Apple to release anything during the report, even if its only a paper release and not talked about during the actual presentation?
 
Any predictions on how many iPods were sold last quarter?

I am guessing 21 million.
 
Is it possible for Apple to release anything during the report, even if its only a paper release and not talked about during the actual presentation?

Why would they want to do this? The results are no doubt going to be amazing so they wouldn't want to take attention away with a quiet product release.
 
APPLE INC. it's a GREAT move by Steve. We don't just sell pooters anymo :)

Steve Jobs made a GREAT decision to remove computers from the co name. They do a lot mo than pooters now.

My burning questions:



1) Who decided on the name change of Apple Computer Inc. to Apple Inc. ?

2) Was this decision voted by the board ?

3) Why was this decision not brought before the shareholders for a vote ?

edit: I think this is material and that all shareholders should have voted on an issue of this importance. What if the board (or Steve) decided to name the company something completely different?

Despite what Steve thinks, and the way he acts, this is a public company - no longer his own private kingdom being run from his garage!
 
Sell

I strongly recommend to sell. Why?

1-st. Currently AAPL tripled to it's real value. It's a normal when there is a strong expectation for further multiple-year growth. Apple slowed it's growth at 2006 compared to 2005. When income growth at 2005 was 480% -at 2006 only 50%. PC sell growth slowed from 38% to 20%. iPod sells was excellent, however. But now they encounter far more severe competition from Creative and Sundisk, which can down their market share to 60 or even 50%.

2-nd. It's seems that Apple put all theirs on iPhone as on main revenue booster. But lets think carefully. Smartphone market in USA at 2007 estimated about 10M-12M units. According to researches it grew at 2006 mainly because of price decreases and Blackberry(there are a lot of people whos only need from smartphone is to send emails). At March 2007 Nokia N95 enters the market, when it far more serious device at the same price than iPhone. So at the best case iPhone will be able to catch no more than 25-30% of non-blackberry,highest-end devises which stands about 4-5 M units. So let's assume that at this market they will sell maximum 2M devices + 2-3M will buy a people of Apple Congregation when they don't need it.
So at the best case at fiscal year 2007 Apple will make about 3.5B revenue from the iPhones. Let's assume that other growth will about 20% so it will give about 22-24B +3B of iPhone. So most optimistic estimate - that even with help of iPhone the revenue of 2007 won't exceed 27-28B, that will only about 30% growth compared to 2006.

So although Apple will still grow slowly, when investors will realize that there is no more room for growth anymore, the share will start to fall
 
I strongly recommend to sell. Why?

1-st. Currently AAPL tripled to it's real value. It's a normal when there is a strong expectation for further multiple-year growth. Apple slowed it's growth at 2006 compared to 2005. When income growth at 2005 was 480% -at 2006 only 50%. PC sell growth slowed from 38% to 20%. iPod sells was excellent, however. But now they encounter far more severe competition from Creative and Sundisk, which can down their market share to 60 or even 50%.

2-nd. It's seems that Apple put all theirs on iPhone as on main revenue booster. But lets think carefully. Smartphone market in USA at 2007 estimated about 10M-12M units. According to researches it grew at 2006 mainly because of price decreases and Blackberry(there are a lot of people whos only need from smartphone is to send emails). At March 2007 Nokia N95 enters the market, when it far more serious device at the same price than iPhone. So at the best case iPhone will be able to catch no more than 25-30% of non-blackberry,highest-end devises which stands about 4-5 M units. So let's assume that at this market they will sell maximum 2M devices + 2-3M will buy a people of Apple Congregation when they don't need it.
So at the best case at fiscal year 2007 Apple will make about 3.5B revenue from the iPhones. Let's assume that other growth will about 20% so it will give about 22-24B +3B of iPhone. So most optimistic estimate - that even with help of iPhone the revenue of 2007 won't exceed 27-28B, that will only about 30% growth compared to 2006.

So although Apple will still grow slowly, when investors will realize that there is no more room for growth anymore, the share will start to fall

Why would someone join MacRumors today, one day before earnings release, and immediately post two negative comments about Apple? Such comment are more often found on finance message boards where "bashers" (often paid by hedge funds) are constantly posting negatives about any given company in an attempt to knock a stock down a bit, so they can buy or cover a short position. Bashers do exist. They are not urban legends.
 
I strongly recommend to sell. Why?

1-st. Currently AAPL tripled to it's real value. It's a normal when there is a strong expectation for further multiple-year growth. Apple slowed it's growth at 2006 compared to 2005. When income growth at 2005 was 480% -at 2006 only 50%. PC sell growth slowed from 38% to 20%. iPod sells was excellent, however. But now they encounter far more severe competition from Creative and Sundisk, which can down their market share to 60 or even 50%.

2-nd. It's seems that Apple put all theirs on iPhone as on main revenue booster. But lets think carefully. Smartphone market in USA at 2007 estimated about 10M-12M units. According to researches it grew at 2006 mainly because of price decreases and Blackberry(there are a lot of people whos only need from smartphone is to send emails). At March 2007 Nokia N95 enters the market, when it far more serious device at the same price than iPhone. So at the best case iPhone will be able to catch no more than 25-30% of non-blackberry,highest-end devises which stands about 4-5 M units. So let's assume that at this market they will sell maximum 2M devices + 2-3M will buy a people of Apple Congregation when they don't need it.
So at the best case at fiscal year 2007 Apple will make about 3.5B revenue from the iPhones. Let's assume that other growth will about 20% so it will give about 22-24B +3B of iPhone. So most optimistic estimate - that even with help of iPhone the revenue of 2007 won't exceed 27-28B, that will only about 30% growth compared to 2006.

So although Apple will still grow slowly, when investors will realize that there is no more room for growth anymore, the share will start to fall

Short much?
 
negative

Why would someone join MacRumors today, one day before earnings release, and immediately post two negative comments about Apple? Such comment are more often found on finance message boards where "bashers" (often paid by hedge funds) are constantly posting negatives about any given company in an attempt to knock a stock down a bit, so they can buy or cover a short position. Bashers do exist. They are not urban legends.
When someone will pay me for posting comments at forums, it'll be a luckiest day of my life.
I just analyze the numbers and don't think negative or positive about the stock I investigate.
I invest only for long term to companies, when I expect significant growth next years. I rode on AAPL two years and earned a lot, but now, it seems, the horse is dead(I mean that apple became a big stable company)
 
When someone will pay me for posting comments at forums, it'll be a luckiest day of my life.
I just analyze the numbers and don't think negative or positive about the stock I investigate.
I invest only for long term to companies, when I expect significant growth next years. I rode on AAPL two years and earned a lot, but now, it seems, the horse is dead(I mean that apple became a big stable company)

I believe what you are saying is that AAPL has moved from the "growth" to the "value" investment column. Even if that were true (and I'm not convinced that it is), I'm not sure it would be a bad thing from an investor's standpoint.
 
I believe what you are saying is that AAPL has moved from the "growth" to the "value" investment column. Even if that were true (and I'm not convinced that it is), I'm not sure it would be a bad thing from an investor's standpoint.
In order to be in a "value" column it should be twice cheaper. That's exactly what's going to happen in a year or two
 
In order to be in a "value" column it should be twice cheaper. That's exactly what's going to happen in a year or two

That's a bashing, "weapons of mass destruction", fear-inducing post. It has nothing to do with the thread. Sounds like after riding aapl for a couple years (if true) you switched to short position. Not working out too well. Why after being long aapl for 2 years, and as an investor wanting to know as much about aapl as possible, did you join yesterday? Fails the smell test for me.
 
That's a bashing, "weapons of mass destruction", fear-inducing post. It has nothing to do with the thread. Sounds like after riding aapl for a couple years (if true) you switched to short position. Not working out too well. Why after being long aapl for 2 years, and as an investor wanting to know as much about aapl as possible, did you join yesterday? Fails the smell test for me.
Personally for you. I'm not at shorts, I'm out. I don't like all that stuff like shorts, options, futures etc. I invest into a stocks that I believe will grow at least 30% next year and seeking real companies with real products for mass consumption that can conquer or establish real markets. But it my personal attitude and i don't think that it is interesting someone here. Sorry for off-top.
 
In order to be in a "value" column it should be twice cheaper. That's exactly what's going to happen in a year or two

Not necessarily -- the transition from growth to value doesn't have to come with a crash in the stock price, it is more likely to come from a gradual lowering of forward PE over a period of years to reflect the projected EPS growth.
 
Not necessarily -- the transition from growth to value doesn't have to come with a crash in the stock price, it is more likely to come from a gradual lowering of forward PE over a period of years to reflect the projected EPS growth.

Well stated, Ignatius.
 
Not necessarily -- the transition from growth to value doesn't have to come with a crash in the stock price, it is more likely to come from a gradual lowering of forward PE over a period of years to reflect the projected EPS growth.
Real scenario, too. But i always try imagine a worst case. When you goes for a long time, firstly you think about to eliminate the risks
 
People...

I'm sorry but I have to agree with Kresh on this one.

Changing a company's name, whether it's just taking a word out or not, is not an everyday operation and could effect the stock adversely.

Although, I can see where SJ wouldn't want to do this, with his secrecy policy n all.


The name has not really changed! It is still "Apple" (as we all know them to be). This year is a huge time for them to expand thier products further and define the company name to reflect that they make more then great computers and the best OS. IMHO, where they are heading is a consumer electronics company with a "pro" division in each segment. This means great growth potential for Apple and ultimately us. An adjustment to the name is NOT GOING TO negatively affect anything!

Imagine if you will, "breakthrough" digital camera's, game players and an ultra cool, large flatscreen HD collabration with a company like Sony (with built in computing by Apple of course). Is this not where we share holders really want them to go? To me this is great news and Steve has my trust with his vision of Apple's future growth decisions. If it really hurts you, sell your stock!

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