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50GB is meant for app settings storage. it doesn't make sense that Apple should give you 200GB for life. Apple doesn't run a charity.
Absolutely, they should never give out free items with $1000 iPhones and $6000 MacBooks!

They should immediately start charging for the base 5 GB iCloud plan!

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Mr. Burns: Smithers! Get ahold of Tim Apple and get him to power this iCloud doo-hickey with the electrons from our American Atom Mill!

Smithers: Yes sir.

Burns: Who are we going to put in charge of transferring the electrons to Tim Apple? And what's it going to cost us?

Smithers: Donuts sir.

Tim Apple: "Doh!"
 
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this is pure gouging unless they add some real features...
Could be in anticipation of a future where premium Apple Intelligence features go behind an iCloud+ paywall. Raise prises now instead of adding features and price hiking simultaneously. People could bristle at that.
 
I just upgraded 10 minutes ago after months of deliberation. I had to move all my videos out of Photos onto my Mac because my family plan use of 200GB was getting razor tight. We hit the limit a few times!

**** apple for not giving users more choice. I don't need 2TB, but I would like 500GB option. Thankfully I have 20% off iTunes gift cards loaded in my account so i'm actually paying $8 a month.
It's a crazy rip off and they know it. I am in th same situation. Most people probably cave after realizing how much work it is to manage photos and videos manually so as to not exceed the threshold.

I have a family plan also and it's been maxed out for a few months. I am not upgrading because I don't want to pay $10/month that seems like a rip-off.

The main thing I don'tlike is there is no consumer choice. I can't just move to another cloud provider. Apple has locked it down and locked me in. It was very convenient until we hit the limit.

Neutral consideration would say yes, no problem, any option other than extending my storage is a huge pain, lots of work, and definitely not worth saving these $120 / year.

But emotion says no, **** off, I don't like to be strong-armed, forced, and I know you set up your systems to do just that. It's like giving in to blackmail, there'll be more coming and it doesn't feel good.

How did Apple stray so far from its values? And yeah it was always going to happen once they got into the services business because services businesses can only increase revenue by squeezing locked in customers, it's just too tempting.

I don't thikn I will do it. I will switch the entire family to Android - Google is running the exact same racket there by the way, but Google is Google, you'd expect nothing less.
 
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200GB to 2TB… the largest rip off for most people.
So true. Ages waiting for a WWDC with some update on the tiers. Trying my best to use the 2.2 tb (because apple one too).

I’ve been to Chile, their economy isn’t thriving at all. Pretty much nobody can afford iPhones. It’s androids everywhere. Apple must be gouging the few subscribers who are well off enough to bear it.
I’m from Chile and you are so wrong. You see iPhones everywhere. Latests and oldies, but everywhere. Apple even their online store here too.
 
Absolutely. I'm pushing up against 200GB now and dreading that stupid jump.

At least it's some incentive to finally sort through my photos library, thanks Tim!
I pay for the 2TB and share it with family, but we are only at 630GB, and have been around there for a while. We are decently good at managing our files, so the increase is very slow, yet we still have to pay for 2TB, which I hate.
 
iCloud+ is the way it is because of Apple's platform lock in. Ditto for Google and its Google One service. If Apple opened it up to competitors, Apple would almost immediately improve the service in very substantial ways, including:
  • More flexible pricing, such as $5 per TB used
  • Support for Microsoft Collaboration
  • Robust and reliable sharing
  • Full search, including contents
 
Every service in South America is cheaper because the population somehow convinced the service providers they're too poor. How can Americans convince all the service providers we too are poor.
By canceling the subscriptions. Not canceling signals that you can afford them.
 
iCloud is one of the worst things about Apple right now:
- Only available service of its kind for years.
- Automatically installed.
- Impossible to remove completely.
- Traps you with almost useless free trial.
- Sends you spam to convince you to buy, disguised as system alerts.
- Features like live photos are clearly made to only be backed-up properly via iCloud.
- USB backup has been kept really bad to make iCloud look like the only acceptable backup.
- Storage plans haven't scaled as iPhone storage did.
- Now this.

I worked in a shop that only repairs Apple stuff, you wouldn't believe how many people from 50 years old and up came in worried about the alerts that terrorized them because the storage was over. It's the anti-virus strategy, 100% anti-consumer.
Many of the cheap tricks Apple uses are clearly against EU rules and will surely be fought with regulation in here, more than a decade too late. Meanwhile, Apple has scammed its own customers for so much money and many of them will stay trapped.
I completely agree. Those cheap tricks are everywhere now. I have had the misfortune of needing to set up a work iPhone several times recently. It's a clean setup and not linked to my iTunes account. The number of little red bubbles and items actually in the settings menu trying to get me to add credit cards for Apple Pay, subscribe to "free trials" for each of their services, backup to iCloud, and now constant nagging to enable their AI service, its just... sad. I have had and iPhone since the original model, and have not had to set up a phone as new for some time. So, I had not realised how bad it had gotten. Times have changed...
 
Agree. 200GB to 1TB, then 4TB, 10 TB should be fine. Even with family sharing, filling 2TB seems unlikely to me.
You still would have parole complaining when they cross 200GB, and even crossing 1TB.

I do agree that the 200GB to 2TB is a big jump. We’re using 6-700 GB and have plenty of space to grow and with Apple One family, that adds 200GB to the 2TB plan.
 
Also agree about 200GB to 2TB jump. My main issue is that most non tech people assume that iCloud is a back up of their data which it’s not.

I imagine if wording was clearer there would be less uptake on the service.

It’s a lot of money for a sync service
 
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I had more use for .Mac and iTools but iCloud is not very useful for me and with all the spying with the online now... I just don't use it except for some basic email and the odd iWork document.
 
iCloud is one of the worst things about Apple right now:
- Only available service of its kind for years.
- Automatically installed.
- Impossible to remove completely.
- Traps you with almost useless free trial.
- Sends you spam to convince you to buy, disguised as system alerts.
- Features like live photos are clearly made to only be backed-up properly via iCloud.
- USB backup has been kept really bad to make iCloud look like the only acceptable backup.
- Storage plans haven't scaled as iPhone storage did.
- Now this.

I worked in a shop that only repairs Apple stuff, you wouldn't believe how many people from 50 years old and up came in worried about the alerts that terrorized them because the storage was over. It's the anti-virus strategy, 100% anti-consumer.
Many of the cheap tricks Apple uses are clearly against EU rules and will surely be fought with regulation in here, more than a decade too late. Meanwhile, Apple has scammed its own customers for so much money and many of them will stay trapped.
Absolutely agree with all of this. Managing your data is very difficult, and it’s an intentional design choice.

I recently decided to take an offline back up of all our photos, what a nightmare that was. It took weeks. Tried making smart folders of years to download but can only do that on the mac, so no good for my wife and kids who only have phones and tablets.

Eventually found a service hidden away on the apple website that allows you to request a download of your data. Did that, took over a week to get a response. Was linked to a site with a long list of zips to download. The download speed was very slow, and the page times out regularly so essentially had to download 1 zip at a time. The files within the zips seem to be in a completely random order, so no good way to organise them without dumping the whole lot back into a photo library again.

Meanwhile we’ve maxed the 2tb plan and so now we’re paying an additional monthly fee for more storage. When that fills up we’ll have to pay more again. And then again. I’m very happy to pay a monthly fee for the convenience of cloud access, but storage is supposed to become cheaper over time not more expensive. Apple seem more than happy to up the fee, but are far less keen to up the allowances.

IMO they should be compelled to allow folk to use any third party service they like for their cloud storage. Then we’d see far more competitive pricing with far better service.
 
No increase yet in my country. Hopefully it stays that way. Apple should consider increasing the free storage limit.
 
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I recently decided to take an offline back up of all our photos, what a nightmare that was. It took weeks. Tried making smart folders of years to download but can only do that on the mac, so no good for my wife and kids who only have phones and tablets.

Eventually found a service hidden away on the apple website that allows you to request a download of your data. Did that, took over a week to get a response. Was linked to a site with a long list of zips to download. The download speed was very slow, and the page times out regularly so essentially had to download 1 zip at a time. The files within the zips seem to be in a completely random order, so no good way to organise them without dumping the whole lot back into a photo library again.

If you have a Mac, couldn't you have created temporary user accounts for your wife and kids and synchronised locally that way?

Not trying to defend Apple here, though this annoying cloud-only approach is sadly everywhere now. I tried Google Photos for a bit and it was exactly the same.
 
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I wanted to dumb it but every time I try to get it to download all the photos, it gets stuck somewhere before giving me some error code but I dont know which set of data is supposedly broken so I am stuck
 
The median income in Switzerland is roughly 20 times that of the median in Turkey.
(Original post was removed because I quoted chatgpt looking up the numbers for me)
Okay, now? Most operators like Crunchyroll, Netflix, YouTube etc don’t even have a branch (let alone lone employees or servers) in Switzerland. So why again should I pay for their greediness?
 
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