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Absolutely, they should never give out free items with $1000 iPhones and $6000 MacBooks!

They should immediately start charging for the base 5 GB iCloud plan!

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if they start charging for 5GB iCloud plan then most app developers can't rely on iCloud to sync their settings and will ask the user to sign up for a free Google/Dropbox account 🤦‍♂️
 
The shareholders will potentially burn Tim at the stake if he dares increase 5GB iCloud Storage.
Please pray for Tim Apple :oops:
 
50GB is meant for app settings storage. it doesn't make sense that Apple should give you 200GB for life. Apple doesn't run a charity.
Exactly. Finally, someone other than me has said it.

Apple is a business-driven company that only has the interests of its shareholders at "heart". It doesn't matter how often Macrumors dutifully repeats marketing slogans or how often loyal fans, who have kept Apple alive, still consider the sales-driven corporation their friend.

Apple could offer 20 GB. Underdogs from New Zealand can do it. Or at least not count the system settings towards data storage.

But why should? It is currently losing billions of dollars because the App Store monopoly is being broken.
So it should come as no surprise if cloud prices rise massively. Or product prices. To make up the difference from the dying cash cow that is the App Store. After all, Apple is not a charity.
 
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Exactly. Finally, someone other than me has said it.

Apple is a business-driven company that only has the interests of its shareholders at "heart". It doesn't matter how often Macrumors dutifully repeats marketing slogans or how often loyal fans, who have kept Apple alive, still consider the sales-driven corporation their friend.

Apple could offer 20 GB. Underdogs from New Zealand can do it. Or at least not count the system settings towards data storage.

But why should? It is currently losing billions of dollars because the App Store monopoly is being broken.
So it should come as no surprise if cloud prices rise massively. Or product prices. To make up the difference from the dying cash cow that is the App Store. After all, Apple is not a charity.

Then Apple, and the stockholders, shouldn't be surprised when sales and service revenue drop, and it will. Apple doesn't offer products with inelastic demand.

They are also "losing" billions as the $20 billion/year Google payola is about to end. Their fault for accepting in, then labeling it as services revenue when it was nothing of the sort, but it made their services revenue numbers look good.
 
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50GB is meant for app settings storage. it doesn't make sense that Apple should give you 200GB for life. Apple doesn't run a charity.
Microsoft doesn't run a charity either, but you buy their product (Microsoft 365) and they give you (as part of the product) 1TB of storage for a year. And that is on a $100/ year product. It wouldn't kill Apple's earning to give people a usable amount when they buy an Apple product that costs over $500!

EDIT: I should correct myself -- $129/yr gets 6 people 1TB of cloud storage EACH (plus the suite of apps). That's a total of 6TB of storage MS gives. It really should embarrass Apple for what they offer.
 
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what do you mean the UK hasn't had a price rise?

mine went from 79p/month to 99p/month!!

don't tell me it's gonna go up AGAIN!? what am I gonna be paying now.... £1.19/month? ridiculous!
 
Okay, now? Most operators like Crunchyroll, Netflix, YouTube etc don’t even have a branch (let alone lone employees or servers) in Switzerland. So why again should I pay for their greediness?
Whose greediness? The Swiss? I'm not who you were replying to but I'm struggling to understand what your reply means.

Your initial comment: "I still don’t get that dumb local pricing. Why should a Turkish guy pay like 1/10. of me who has the luck of living in Switzerland? That’s not fair tbh."

Then the reply, "The median income in Switzerland is roughly 20 times that of the median in Turkey."

That logically followed your comment. You were expressing that it wasn't fair that you pay 10X what someone in Turkey pays. The commenter then pointed out that average (median) incomes in Switzerland are 20X higher than Turkey. That means that you are, on average and relative to median incomes, paying much less than you could be. Think of it this way -- you are getting a discount in Switzerland and people in Turkey are subsidizing your iCloud subscription costs. Rather than it being unfair for you, it's unfair for them based on these numbers.

Following that interaction, it's unclear what your most recent comment has to do with anything. Maybe you can clarify.
 
Okay, now? Most operators like Crunchyroll, Netflix, YouTube etc don’t even have a branch (let alone lone employees or servers) in Switzerland. So why again should I pay for their greediness?

Because companies are in the business of maximising revenues. Swiss people are willing and able to pay more for services.

If you don't like it then just sign up for a Turkish account, many do.
 
I pay for the 2TB and share it with family, but we are only at 630GB, and have been around there for a while. We are decently good at managing our files, so the increase is very slow, yet we still have to pay for 2TB, which I hate.
for our family, I went the 200gb route ... I disabled iCloud Backups and iCloud photo sync'ing ... I manually backup both to my NAS ... I monitor consumption weekly, currently at 56gb for 4 family members
 
for our family, I went the 200gb route ... I disabled iCloud Backups and iCloud photo sync'ing ... I manually backup both to my NAS ... I monitor consumption weekly, currently at 56gb for 4 family members
Fair, but now your photos aren’t all going to be available in one place. Unless you keep them all in the photos app as well, if you have a large capacity phone.
 
Fair, but now your photos aren’t all going to be available in one place. Unless you keep them all in the photos app as well, if you have a large capacity phone.

true ... I've learned that most of the photos/video my family takes on their iPhone/iPad/etc aren't iCloud storage worthy ... some are ... most aren't

that content is backed up to my 80Tb WD PR4100 NAS, I use WD myCloud to access that data remotely ...

over 1/2 of the current consumption on iCloud is my email I've amassed over 40+ years ... I am contemplating rolling off that content to a self-hosted solution
 
I wish iApple gave customers the ability to self-host iCloud services Ala exchange

Agreed. Apple started out being very open-source-minded with regards to OS X's design in the early 2000's. Open protocols for Mail and Contacts, for example, but hasn't stayed that course. As the web exploded with "openness" via API's into online services, Apple hasn't offered any. That's been a real shame.
 
Because companies are in the business of maximising revenues. Swiss people are willing and able to pay more for services.

If you don't like it then just sign up for a Turkish account, many do.
I am already, but already trying to charge people for an unjustified higher price is just scam.
Whose greediness? The Swiss? I'm not who you were replying to but I'm struggling to understand what your reply means.

Your initial comment: "I still don’t get that dumb local pricing. Why should a Turkish guy pay like 1/10. of me who has the luck of living in Switzerland? That’s not fair tbh."

Then the reply, "The median income in Switzerland is roughly 20 times that of the median in Turkey."

That logically followed your comment. You were expressing that it wasn't fair that you pay 10X what someone in Turkey pays. The commenter then pointed out that average (median) incomes in Switzerland are 20X higher than Turkey. That means that you are, on average and relative to median incomes, paying much less than you could be. Think of it this way -- you are getting a discount in Switzerland and people in Turkey are subsidizing your iCloud subscription costs. Rather than it being unfair for you, it's unfair for them based on these numbers.

Following that interaction, it's unclear what your most recent comment has to do with anything. Maybe you can clarify.
Google/Netflix/Spotify… you name it. Basically every company who doesn’t have digitally more or less equal prices for same service. I’m not talking about currency conversion or tax adjustments. But that’s not fair that Switzerland despite having lowest VAT in Europe still pays highest prices. Yes, Switzerland pays highest wages but that’s not reason. If they can afford offering the goods for 3-5 bucks in Turkey why can’t they do them in Switzerland (or at least 10€)? It’s not like they got employees to maintain here…


YouTube Premium without breaks, offline and in the background for the whole family
1-month trial period for 0 CHF • Then 33.90 CHF⁠/⁠month • Cancelable at any time “

I pay like 2,50 or something via turkey right now. Crunchyroll costs like 20 bucks per month in Switzerland and 3 bucks per year (!!!) via Lebanon.
 
It's a crazy rip off and they know it. I am in th same situation. Most people probably cave after realizing how much work it is to manage photos and videos manually so as to not exceed the threshold.
There are alternatives. You could use Dropbox. They provide an app with which you can export your photos to Dropbox. You could also use Adobe's Photo account. Adobe also provides an app with which you can export your photos to their cloud. You could also use a Google account. Google also provides software with which you can sync your iPhone pictures with their cloud. I'm pretty sure there are other options. Some of the alternatives may be cheaper. I'm not sure if they are more convenient. But it is your choice what you want to use and how much you are willing to pay for it.

For me personally, I moved to iCloud as it was the same price as my previous solution (Dropbox) with more ease of use for my use cases. It is actually cheaper for me now, as I had to share my Dropbox account with my family, while we can now decide which parts to share and which parts not.
 
If cloud storage prices are increased over time I will finally have to jump to a personal NAS approach since hard drive prices, conversely, tend to get lower every year...
 
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