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Apple Raises iTunes Match and Apple Music Library Matching Limits to 100,000 Tracks
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It doesn't. It doesn't try matching anything below 100KBit/sec. However, it did match quite a few 80KBit/sec mp3s after I converted them manually to 256KBit
The first time, you were one of many millions trying it. Now, you are one of many thousands
As always, any sentence followed by "Let's be honest" is either stupid, wrong, or a lie.
A few months after the iTunes Store opened, Apple reported that one single person had purchased 38,000 tracks.
You need one backup, turn on iTunes Match, and wait. With 25,000 songs, it _will_ take ages. Your CPU will be at 100% for a long time while it is calculating stuff for the songs on your hard drive. Then it will take a while on Apple's server. Then it will take a while to upload all your artwork, and a long time to upload everything that isn't matched. Just don't worry about the time, and it will be fine. And make sure you have enough space for all your music in 256 Kbit.
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1. It was a joke
2. I am a developer
3. Some of what you said didn't make any sense
4. If properly architected, engineering to scale the storage four fold shouldn't be too much of an issue. I'd see the most engineering work happening on the DevOps side to deploy this update gracefully for the world without downtime.
Mind you, even if it was 2100 days, it still doesn't matter, because the OP said "absolutely serious question: Who has more that 25k unique tracks? Thats more than A person can listen to ever." It isn't. It can be listened to in finite amount of time which is shorter than average lifespan.
Yes, I studied maths.
Wow 100k at 3 mins a song if played one after the other thats @208 days worth WHO need that many songs?
A few things I want to throw out there:
1. I guess I'm one of the few who enjoys having BOTH iTunes Match AND Apple Music. And yes, they have both worked flawless together since day one.
2. Yes I have over 25,000 tracks, no I have not pirated them. All ,y ,us it is paid for in some fashion (streaming, digital, physical copies, music myself or friends made, and public domain music) everything I have is from one of those paid sources. Yes I have listened to all of the tracks at some point. And no I'm not going to delete stuff I ended up not liking, because I DID pay for it. It's a music COLLECTION! Not a personalized radio playlist.
3. Some of who who are claiming to know the difference between the two are very misguided and I will blame Apple for that for not making it clear. If you JUST have Apple Music, yes it will indeed match or upload to your music library as needed EVEN IF that music isn't available on Apple Music, or even the iTunes Store. Take the Beetles for example: With Apple Music ONLY. It will upload the tracks to your cloud music library. You can download those tracks on to your, let's say, iPhone, so that you don't have to stream them all the time. You then cancel your Apple Music subscription, and POOF those tracks can no longer be played even though you downloaded them. However if you have iTunes Match, guess what? Those tracks are still there and playable. And if you don't renew iTunes Match? Then stay downloaded and playable on your device. The main difference isn't what your allowed to upload and listen to, the big difference is what happens if you cancel either subscription.
4. Those fighting about what Apple should charge for iCloud space are wasting energy on something trivial. I get it, some feel they are being nickeled and dimed while other feel the prices of cloud storage is cheap and well worth it. That's all fine and dandy, but to sit there and argue tour viewpoints is a waste. It won't change anyone's mind including Apple's. So you are just going to have to deal with things the way they are currently.
5. Those of you who say 255, or 1,000 or however many tracks is enough music forever are being ridiculous. I don't think anyone would consider your a music lover or collector. Also this is about a COLLECTION (as noted above) NOT a customized radio playlist. Everyone enjoys media differently. We are PRIVILEGED(not entitled!) in this day in age to have the tech and companies like Apple to allow different people to enjoy different types and amounts of various media however and whenever we want. So of 255 tracks is fine for you, that's great..... FOR YOU. But it won't be fine for all the millions and millions and millions of people in the world. So don't complain about those of us who have over 25,000 tracks unless you plan on spending the time and money to get your own collection to that point to see what it's REALLY like. Because until you've done this, you have no room to talk and speculate about how much of that music is pirated,or how much has been listened to.
Ok I think that's it for now. I'll step off my soapbox for now.
P.S. I've never heard people argue so much about something that's supposed to be 100% enjoyable and a universal language like music. I am also miffed about how many people can argue when tech advances allow us to enjoy those kinds of things even more than before...... Completely baffling
1. I guess I'm one of the few who enjoys having BOTH iTunes Match AND Apple Music. And yes, they have both worked flawless together since day one.
2. Yes I have over 25,000 tracks, no I have not pirated them. All ,y ,us it is paid for in some fashion (streaming, digital, physical copies, music myself or friends made, and public domain music) everything I have is from one of those paid sources. Yes I have listened to all of the tracks at some point. And no I'm not going to delete stuff I ended up not liking, because I DID pay for it. It's a music COLLECTION! Not a personalized radio playlist.
3. Some of who who are claiming to know the difference between the two are very misguided and I will blame Apple for that for not making it clear. If you JUST have Apple Music, yes it will indeed match or upload to your music library as needed EVEN IF that music isn't available on Apple Music, or even the iTunes Store. Take the Beetles for example: With Apple Music ONLY. It will upload the tracks to your cloud music library. You can download those tracks on to your, let's say, iPhone, so that you don't have to stream them all the time. You then cancel your Apple Music subscription, and POOF those tracks can no longer be played even though you downloaded them. However if you have iTunes Match, guess what? Those tracks are still there and playable. And if you don't renew iTunes Match? Then stay downloaded and playable on your device. The main difference isn't what your allowed to upload and listen to, the big difference is what happens if you cancel either subscription.
4. Those fighting about what Apple should charge for iCloud space are wasting energy on something trivial. I get it, some feel they are being nickeled and dimed while other feel the prices of cloud storage is cheap and well worth it. That's all fine and dandy, but to sit there and argue tour viewpoints is a waste. It won't change anyone's mind including Apple's. So you are just going to have to deal with things the way they are currently.
5. Those of you who say 255, or 1,000 or however many tracks is enough music forever are being ridiculous. I don't think anyone would consider your a music lover or collector. Also this is about a COLLECTION (as noted above) NOT a customized radio playlist. Everyone enjoys media differently. We are PRIVILEGED(not entitled!) in this day in age to have the tech and companies like Apple to allow different people to enjoy different types and amounts of various media however and whenever we want. So of 255 tracks is fine for you, that's great..... FOR YOU. But it won't be fine for all the millions and millions and millions of people in the world. So don't complain about those of us who have over 25,000 tracks unless you plan on spending the time and money to get your own collection to that point to see what it's REALLY like. Because until you've done this, you have no room to talk and speculate about how much of that music is pirated,or how much has been listened to.
Ok I think that's it for now. I'll step off my soapbox for now.
P.S. I've never heard people argue so much about something that's supposed to be 100% enjoyable and a universal language like music. I am also miffed about how many people can argue when tech advances allow us to enjoy those kinds of things even more than before...... Completely baffling
Some people is not realising that long-time music collectors actually listened to all of their music, even twice or 30 times.
We paid for LP's, and obviously listened to them (1 time, wrong buy, 25 times "best album of the decade" until the next find of course)
We paid for CD's. Maybe not sounding better but it looked at the time that our collection would have been eternal. And listened to all of them.
We paid for CD's in special editions. With extras, demos, takes, live sets etc. And we listened to them. (damned be the record companies who kept those hidden for years)
Collection: built year after year after year, seldom starting from your teen years and goin' through all of your life.
I've downloaded 3 albums in my life, not in a legal way. My LP's were too bad for MP3 ripping, no way to find any CD published, until I found a pal who liked the same band and posted on his blog the 3 albums. And this guy lives more than 20.000 km from me!. What an amazing world I live in, I thought.
And you know what? Only music lovers experienced true time-travel. That thing that happens when you listen to a song that all of a sudden in a millisecond brings you back in that place, with those persons, those smells, weather, lights or whatever.
This some people don't understand, and I feel sorry for them.
Sorry for the long post and the grammar
Just google "potato"
We paid for LP's, and obviously listened to them (1 time, wrong buy, 25 times "best album of the decade" until the next find of course)
We paid for CD's. Maybe not sounding better but it looked at the time that our collection would have been eternal. And listened to all of them.
We paid for CD's in special editions. With extras, demos, takes, live sets etc. And we listened to them. (damned be the record companies who kept those hidden for years)
Collection: built year after year after year, seldom starting from your teen years and goin' through all of your life.
I've downloaded 3 albums in my life, not in a legal way. My LP's were too bad for MP3 ripping, no way to find any CD published, until I found a pal who liked the same band and posted on his blog the 3 albums. And this guy lives more than 20.000 km from me!. What an amazing world I live in, I thought.
And you know what? Only music lovers experienced true time-travel. That thing that happens when you listen to a song that all of a sudden in a millisecond brings you back in that place, with those persons, those smells, weather, lights or whatever.
This some people don't understand, and I feel sorry for them.
Sorry for the long post and the grammar
Just google "potato"
...and explicit lyrics are again replaced by clean B.S. Were still let down by a half-assed update. The limit being raised is good though.
I have the first Electronic album on original vinyl, CD, limited edition double CD and now the re-release pressing of the vinyl. I can tell you where I got each of those editions. I had to search for that first vinyl for hours and hours at a record fair. When I finally found it I was SO happy. Not all of my 31k library has been loved so thoroughly, of course. But I have lots of rare, promo-only mixes, bootleg live recordings, demoes that were never released in any official way. I would say I listened to 90% of my library – some dub mixes, for instance, are stupefyingly boring, but I am a collector and want to have them nevertheless. (I probably have more "West End Girls" remixes than some people tracks in their libraries.)
I don't think it's possible to explain a 31k library to someone who thinks music and ringtones are the same thing or never feels the need to do anything else than streaming.
What a thread...
Judging people and jumping to conclusions about how many audio files someone possesses....
I collect Music and audio dramas since I was 14 (Damn, how I remember the summer buying my first stereo and the Master of Puppets-CD…) and I welcome that I'm now able to make all my audio available in iTunes match.
I have over 50.000 tracks. Do I listen to all of them? Not at the same time. Some albums I haven't listen to for some years (e.g. the Master of Puppets album). But I can if I want to… Have I bought all of my music / audio dramas? Yes , of course - I collect for 24 years now... And I have plenty of albums with 40+ tracks - so 25.000 tracks isn't really that much. Here's an example:
How some of you judge other people based on the number of audio files is beyond my imagination. How can you possibly think that how you handle music is the only way of doing it?
...time for some Metallica
Judging people and jumping to conclusions about how many audio files someone possesses....
I collect Music and audio dramas since I was 14 (Damn, how I remember the summer buying my first stereo and the Master of Puppets-CD…) and I welcome that I'm now able to make all my audio available in iTunes match.
I have over 50.000 tracks. Do I listen to all of them? Not at the same time. Some albums I haven't listen to for some years (e.g. the Master of Puppets album). But I can if I want to… Have I bought all of my music / audio dramas? Yes , of course - I collect for 24 years now... And I have plenty of albums with 40+ tracks - so 25.000 tracks isn't really that much. Here's an example:
How some of you judge other people based on the number of audio files is beyond my imagination. How can you possibly think that how you handle music is the only way of doing it?
...time for some Metallica
I'll add that while benefits are obvious and this is the future for the majority, streaming services look to me as a watered way of getting the job done. No effort, no pain...no gain and a minor enjoyment consequently.
While discussing Spotify or Apple Music or other services there were people counting the MILLIONS (16 vs 21). How can you enjoy it?
Exact same thing happened to me. I had to check the username to make sure I didn't post this and somehow forgot!!
The only music I was able to pull from the cloud was stuff purchased from iTunes. Everything ripped, gone.
I have gone through an incredibly laborious process of restore much of that music, one album at a time, and the project is still ongoing.
Fortunately my classical library, which has never been touched by ITunes Match, was safe.
Here's my earlier account of what happened to me.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-end-of-the-year.1928604/page-4#post-22086629
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Those of us who have been buying music since we were children. Those of us who spent months copying every vinyl record and converting them into digital format, cassette, CD single/maxi we own into windows media player or iTunes, etc. in the late 90s. Those of us who are aware that iTunes, Spotify don't have certain versions of songs that can only be found on cassette, cd or vinyl. Those of who don't need a company to tell us whats hot and what to like. Those of us who love music.
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Until they can figure out how to successfully upload my extensive live recordings, the track limit is moot.
When I initially subscribed, it jacked up my library - live recordings (the majority of my library), specifically. It replaced live versions of songs with studio versions of the same name. So any live show was a mix of live & studio cuts. Absolute nightmare.
When I initially subscribed, it jacked up my library - live recordings (the majority of my library), specifically. It replaced live versions of songs with studio versions of the same name. So any live show was a mix of live & studio cuts. Absolute nightmare.
I'd kill people.
iTunes does this though. It deletes songs. When this last happened to me I searched my entire drive in case I somehow (how???) moved them out of the library. I didn't. I couldn't find them in Time Machine either, which is probably because they disappeared before March (when my TM starts). I ended up sending them to myself as attachments from my phone where they were as a part of iTunes playlist. MESS. And no, I would never delete those songs myself. I don't drink or do drugs.
I think your story has just convinced me to stay away from Match. I also have those special versions of songs (like Annie Lennox' "Precious" single mix which only exists on iTunes as a part of some soundtrack) and if I lost those someone would have to pay. *shakes* *checks Google Play Music* Phew. What a sad thing it is that I have to use a Google service to ensure stuff won't disappear from my iTunes library.
I only have about 6,500 songs.. so this increase isn't crazy significant to me, but nice to know I'll never run out of space
Now.. if only they would update Match to allow custom artwork, without it reverting to the original! Seems like such a simple fix, yet 4 years later I'm still waiting.
edit - Also, to the people trashing others for having large libraries.. You need to realize, that some people LOVE music, while for others (like you) it is merely background noise.
Now.. if only they would update Match to allow custom artwork, without it reverting to the original! Seems like such a simple fix, yet 4 years later I'm still waiting.
edit - Also, to the people trashing others for having large libraries.. You need to realize, that some people LOVE music, while for others (like you) it is merely background noise.
And you missed my point entirely. Apple is not a bargain brand. They sell high end products. Deal with it.
You sound like customers I used to deal with when I was in high end fashion. Who think products that are clearly out of their market should somehow be discounted to their liking.
And you missed my point entirely. Apple is not a bargain brand. They sell high end products. Deal with it.
You sound like customers I used to deal with when I was in high end fashion. Who think products that are clearly out of their market should somehow be discounted to their liking.
There are some Apple products I will never buy because they are out of my market.
With iTunes Match, is it possible to disable the Match feature and just have ALL my original Mp3´s uploaded?
I´we spent years naming and id3 tagging my files and I don't really trust Apple to get it right.
How can I be sure they would replace my Mp3´s with the right version of it, be it an acoustic, live, accapella or cover version of it?
Maybe I can choose which files to be matched?
I´we spent years naming and id3 tagging my files and I don't really trust Apple to get it right.
How can I be sure they would replace my Mp3´s with the right version of it, be it an acoustic, live, accapella or cover version of it?
Maybe I can choose which files to be matched?
I can save over 500 000 tracks to my Samsung External USB Hard Drive. NBA nor GCHQ cannot scan my files, nor can they spy on me and gather data on me. Nobody can remove my access to my files. I do not have to pay monthly or other fees to access my own stuff. I can save music, video, photos, data, anything digital I like there, without surcharges or begging Steve Jobs representative or any other employee from any multinational consciousness-adulterating, mental conditioner. Added benefit, they are there when some US/UK/other governmental arse decides to terrorise the population further by removing internet access.
I'm a little dismayed seeing all the negative comments about iTM, because right now I have Apple Music and am thinking of dumping it and going to iTM. While I like Apple Music, I'm not sure I like it enough to pay for it. I have a decent collection and, over the years, have used the star ratings to categorize...something I cannot do with AM. One of my prime uses of this process has been to rate a song 4 stars in order to automatically add it to a 4-star playlist I use for running or cycling (spinning). Since I signed up for AM I've lost that ability, and I have no idea how to get it back. I have no freaking clue what iCloud music sync is for but all I know is I can't get my 4-star playlist onto my phone.
Heck, the grateful dead collection @archive.org is over 80k tracks, and I've probably listened to about a quarter of them.
There are music lovers, then there are music lovers. I haven't even made it through a tenth of the big 78 rpm record collection here:
http://78records.cdbpdx.com
I don't even consider myself a big music person...but the stuff is always playing. You never know when you might hear a song or two for the ages.
Really? So you could listen to 7 1/2 years of music in your personal library without hearing the same song twice? (500K songs, 4 min/song, 12 hours a day of music playing)