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Apple Ramps Up iPhone 4S Advertising with 3 New Ads featuring iCloud, Siri, and Camera

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Cool weegiemac I don't think our American friends would understand that never mind Siri perhaps you could translate for them lol noohowsfura gander at that its stotin init!goin yersel Siri your puir dead brilliant
 
foxcub6 said:
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Cool macweedgie I don't think our American friends would understand that never mind Siri perhaps you could translate for them lol noohowsfura gander at that its stootin init!goin yersel Siri your puir dead brilliant
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pretty sure your "friends" who speak proper English detest that chav **** too
 
Now that someone has Siri running in an iPhone 4, I'm wondering why Apple did something so transparently nasty to try to rope people into buying their new phone.

I'm glad that I haven't bought one yet. I want to wait until the smoke clears a little more. Well, and I have to wait until April (!!!) to be able to get the upgrade price on the 4S. I'd love Siri, but I love my bucket load of rollover minutes and will have to sit the 4S thing out for a while until I can upgrade on AT&T 'legally'. Maybe I'll wait until the 5 comes out. Maybe it will be the one to rule them all... Maybe a quad core too?
 
koobcamuk said:
"Wonderful" indeed :p

"What does my day look like" is also incorrect English, but no doubt correct "American".

It's a shame that the American people didn't declare American as its own language, since it differs from English (as used by the English), quite dramatically.
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Your language differs as much from the language of Shakespeare's as does mine. We both started from a common base. You've retained some elements of older English speech and dropped other elements (like pronouncing your Rs), and so have we. I've actually heard that Shakespeare might find Australian English most familiar to him of all the "major" dialects.
 
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In the uk Siri has a male voice I would like to have the choice that would be cool. Unfortunately Siri has limited tasks in the UK as he (in our case) cannot give any business maps etc I do believe this will be rectified at a later date . Iam using a 3 GS at tbe moment but will upgrade to the 4 S in Dec ,
 
PinkyMacGodess said:
Now that someone has Siri running in an iPhone 4, I'm wondering why Apple did something so transparently nasty to try to rope people into buying their new phone.
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There's nothing 'transparently nasty' about what Apple did. The only outrage is both hilarious and pathetic. Limiting some new software features to new hardware is hardly a new concept. iPhone 4 got 95% of the new features through software- why is everyone acting as if they're ENTITLED to 100% of all new features if they're technically possible?? Yes, it's partly marketing, for obvious reasons. There may be also a dozen other reasons. Maybe, for example. they didn't think they could handle the current 100+ million iPhone 4s slamming the servers with Siri requests, along with all the new 4S purchases? Apple doesn't owe you Siri on your current devices. Nobody even knew the feature existed until 3 weeks ago. Get some perspective, there's nothing duplicitous about it.
 
PinkyMacGodess said:
Now that someone has Siri running in an iPhone 4, I'm wondering why Apple did something so transparently nasty to try to rope people into buying their new phone.
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This is like the folks who could get video recording working on their 3G and complained that there was no reason for Apple to limit the feature to the 3GS. Sure, there was no reason, except the performance was much shoddier.

In other words, the fact that someone got a hacked-up version of Siri running on an iPhone 4 isn't quite enough to assign such nefarious conclusions on Apple.
 
koobcamuk said:
"Wonderful" indeed :p

"What does my day look like" is also incorrect English, but no doubt correct "American".

It's a shame that the American people didn't declare American as its own language, since it differs from English (as used by the English), quite dramatically.

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Well said. People never mention where the white Americans are from...
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The distinction between "languages" and "dialects" is more political than scientific. British English and American English differ a bit in their vocabulary, spelling and to a lesser extent grammar, and yet there are some people like you who think that they should be considered separate languages.

Other languages, for instance Chinese, their "dialects" are not mutually intelligible. A native Cantonese speaker from Hong Kong with no Mandarin Chinese education cannot understand what a person who speaks Beijing Mandarin Chinese says. Yet they are considered dialects of the same language, since they share a common written form and similar grammar.
 
jesses said:
cool ads.
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First thing I thought of when I read your post:

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koobcamuk said:
"Wonderful" indeed :p

"What does my day look like" is also incorrect English, but no doubt correct "American".

It's a shame that the American people didn't declare American as its own language, since it differs from English (as used by the English), quite dramatically.
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I wish America had declared our variant of English our own as well. There was an effort early on to differentiate our version from the UK but it never fully took off. It's too bad. It would have eliminated the need for Brits to look down their noses at us and declare our language a bastardized form of their own. That's such an arrogant, ignorant attitude that it makes me sick. And there's no shortage of abuse to the language outside the States... unless someone wants to explain to me where the 'f' is in lieutenant.
 
haruhiko said:
The distinction between "languages" and "dialects" is more political than scientific. British English and American English differ a bit in their vocabulary, spelling and to a lesser extent grammar, and yet there are some people like you who think that they should be considered separate languages.

Other languages, for instance Chinese, their "dialects" are not mutually intelligible. A native Cantonese speaker from Hong Kong with no Mandarin Chinese education cannot understand what a person who speaks Beijing Mandarin Chinese says. Yet they are considered dialects of the same language, since they share a common written form and similar grammar.
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Um.. are you attending the same course in university as I am right now? :D

I think Mandarin is considered the same language as Cantonese because of political reasons as you said in the first paragraph.

I dislike when people rat on American English (which means Canadian English as well) just because it's different and America is disliked in many places right now. Americans were British at one point and I'm sure many world Englishes have vernacularisations that don't 'make sense'. Sorry for the off topic post.
 
inkswamp said:
I wish America had declared our variant of English our own as well. There was an effort early on to differentiate our version from the UK but it never fully took off. It's too bad. It would have eliminated the need for Brits to look down their noses at us and declare our language a bastardized form of their own. That's such an arrogant, ignorant attitude that it makes me sick. And there's no shortage of abuse to the language outside the States... unless someone wants to explain to me where the 'f' is in lieutenant.
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I have a hard time taking seriously the notion that American English is its own language when fluency in it is close enough to fluency in British English that you don't need to study the other to understand and be understood. I'd expect that understanding and being understood in a foreign language would take lessons, or growing up around it.
 
kockgunner said:
Um.. are you attending the same course in university as I am right now? :D

I think Mandarin is considered the same language as Cantonese because of political reasons as you said in the first paragraph.

I dislike when people rat on American English (which means Canadian English as well) just because it's different and America is disliked in many places right now. Americans were British at one point and I'm sure many world Englishes have vernacularisations that don't 'make sense'. Sorry for the off topic post.
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Haha... unfortunately not :p . I graduated in 2005 from Hong Kong :)
 
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In NY these are airing with Verizon tags at the end. Pretty telling sign as to where Apple is headed in the future.
 
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I use FaceTime almost daily

Edit: in reply to the guy who said "Siri will pass like FaceTime"
 
nexus14 said:
What's Obama doing in an Apple commercial
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??? None of the commercials in this article, or which I have seen, have any political figures in them. Generally mass market consumer-oriented companies shy away from overt political affiliations. Why anger or annoy half your potential customer base?
 
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Exactly. The black guy in the first Ad definitely wasn't Obama...
 
myrtlebee said:
Although I agree with your push for a more natural voice for Siri, you've lost credibility. This is the 2nd wrong use of "their" in two pages of a single thread. Is it really that hard to learn the difference? It seems like such an enormous struggle for people nowadays. Maybe I'm old-fashioned. I just don't understand the challenge. I don't know.

Anyway, how would Apple make Siri's voice more fluid? Is it even possible since she has to piece together individual words instead of just set phrases?
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"Their" as in "their company." "They're" as in "they are Apple employees." Which words are to be confused with "there", as in "it's neither here nor there."
 
Joshwawilson said:
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Exactly. The black guy in the first Ad definitely wasn't Obama...
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Presidents can't appear in television ads endorsing any company's product (not while in office anyway). But, even were that not the case, I don't think Obama would appear in an Apple ad after what Jobs said to him (as reported in Walter Isaacson's biography, which I finished reading this weekend).

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myrtlebee said:
Although I agree with your push for a more natural voice for Siri...

Anyway, how would Apple make Siri's voice more fluid? Is it even possible since she has to piece together individual words instead of just set phrases?
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If speech synthesis could modify inflection dynamically based on context, it is possible to get there. This would require more substantial firepower as it would have to figure it out on the fly... and the more important aspect of Siri is the immediacy and accuracy of the response, rather than the sound of the voice.

So I suspect at some future date as technology improves they'll get to it, but if I have to choose between a more natural-sounding voice and faster responses... I'll choose the latter.

But we already know that Siri has some sense of context, which is a big part of what differentiates it heavily from other voice recognition-driven functions. I suspect there's enough datacenter space to eventually build a large enough repository of content. What'll be truly fascinating is when Siri can actually scour the net itself to "learn" context and meaning and add to its own knowledge base unaided.
 
koobcamuk said:
"Wonderful" indeed :p

"What does my day look like" is also incorrect English, but no doubt correct "American".

It's a shame that the American people didn't declare American as its own language, since it differs from English (as used by the English), quite dramatically.

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Well said. People never mention where the white Americans are from...
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Actually, although both have evolved over time, modern American English is believed to be closer to what was spoken before our countries divided than modern British English.
 
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