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That is literally untrue. I'm not sure what the numbers are today but below is a chart from 2015. If more or less still accurate, over 40% of NFL "fans" are outside of the U.S.

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I'm going to severely question these numbers. Let's take Australia. Search for NFL Australia and the first hit is a Facebook group for Australian NFL fans with 7.7K members. And the second "hit", well…

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I'm going to severely question these numbers. Let's take Australia. Search for NFL Australia and the first hit is a Facebook group for Australian NFL fans with 7.7K members. And the second "hit", well…

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You're basing your argument on Facebook and one Facebook post??

There are numerous articles, posts, discussions online about the popularity and millions of fans of NFL football outside the U.S. Throw China into the mix, and there may be even more fans outside the U.S. than in the U.S.

Your statement that "literally no one outside of the US cares about the NFL" simply isn’t true.
 
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It hilarious you all trying to justify the popularity of American football in the world ?
It’s not very popular outside of the US compared to mainstream sports. All you need to do it live outside of the US to clearly see this.
Else there is plenty of freely available information online which shows clearly its status in lists of the most popular sports on the world stage.
 
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It hilarious you all trying to justify the popularity of American football in the world ?
It’s not very popular outside of the US compared to mainstream sports. All you need to do it live outside of the US to clearly see this.
Else there is plenty of freely available information online which shows clearly its status in lists of the most popular sports on the world stage.

It's hilarious that some actually think I was trying to compare the popularity of "American football" to all other sports.?

What I've been trying to point out is that there are tens of millions of NFL fans outside the U.S., potentially even MORE fans than there are in the U.S., and therefore the statement I had initially responded to ("literally no one outside of the US cares about the NFL") was and still is quite inaccurate.
 
It's hilarious that some actually think I was trying to compare the popularity of "American football" to all other sports.?

What I've been trying to point out is that there are tens of millions of NFL fans outside the U.S., potentially even MORE fans than there are in the U.S., and therefore the statement I had initially responded to ("literally no one outside of the US cares about the NFL") was and still is quite inaccurate.
‘You all’ is not specifically aimed at you, op.

Why did you put American football in quotes? Every other country on the planet if you say football, they’ll assume normal football. You need to stipulate if it’s American that you’re referring too.
 
Why did you put American football in quotes? Every other country on the planet if you say football, they’ll assume normal football. You need to stipulate if it’s American that you’re referring too.

I put it in quotes to note that is how you referred to it and how it is referred to in most places outside the U.S. which is different than how it would typically be referred to here in the U.S.

I also put it in quotes because "American football" could refer to NFL football, college football, etc. and I had specifically been talking about NFL.
 
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Well, it's not just me. Practically every human being outside the US doesn't give a **** about the NFL, NHL and MLB. They barely (next to nothing) care about the NBA, and that's it. Apple services are too focused for the US market, and they always neglect international customers.
And practically every human inside the US doesn't give a **** about Futbol/Soccer or Cricket. Whatever Apple chooses to buy won't be loved by everyone.

And there is no way Apple can get the rights to Futbol/Soccer world-wide. Too many people would be angry that they can't get their sport over the air.

A similar thing happened with Peanuts cartoons. They're tradition and special for Americans. Americans watch Snoopy and Charlie Brown specials at Halloween, Thanksgiving and Christmas. Apple bought the rights, but everyone got upset they couldn't get those over the air. So Apple gave in and now allows over-the-air TV to show the specials during the holiday times.
 
Sorry, no. Last Superbowl had an estimated viewing of combined network and streaming of 101million viewers in the US and 155million Worldwide (including the US)
Thats the 24h number, so live and catch up. Weekly numbers are bigger but they do not count for a live event.
There simply is no interest in an exclusively American sport interrupted every 10 Minutes by 10 minutes advertizing. A game with 4 quarters that lasts nearly 4hours is in a world where soccer dominates, I mean DOMINATES, not feasible. When we say 90mins, then it means 90mins, there are other things to do then watching tv. Cricked is bad enough, games can last days, but normally any sport, especially when televised, has a time frame around 2h max. Remember, outside the US we do not know about permanent interruptions for commercials. If you pay for a channel, it is in some countries even illegal to show ad breaks, you already payed for the channel. Also, how do you want to interrupt a soccer match? Those guys are athletes, more so the rugby players, they do not run around in huge protective uniforms so they do not get hurt, they are on the field and running for miles, non stop, not a few yards at a time to the next time out to have a break.

As an American, this is where we call you out. Soccer players do not run around non-stop. During most of the game, players are just walking around. 1 or 2 players might be running a bit, everyone else is slowly walking. Then every 3 minutes you get this quick run up the field, passing, excitement in front of the net, then the next 3 minutes it's just kicking the ball around the field doing nothing. I bet players only 'run' maybe 5 minutes out of the 45 minutes of the game. To Americans, it's very boring.

And another aspect of this non-stop thing is hilarious. A player will get 'injured', and be tended to for 2-3 minutes - the clock is still running. Why!?!?? Just stop the damn clock! Don't add 'extra time' for that, it's a joke. And the goalie will hold the ball for 15 seconds before kicking it away, players will take 1-2 minutes setting up for a free kick/corner kick or penalty kick. All the while, that clock still keeps ticking while nothing is happening.

So, Soccer is definitely 'stop stop play-a-little stop stop' during the whole game.
 
I'm happy with Red Zone plus my local broadcasts, but I would be curious to see what Apple would charge for ST. Right now Red Zone is included in my Spectrum package for $5 a month. And any deal Apple makes with MLB better not screw up the T-Mobile MLB.TV deal they offer every spring. For me, it's the best perk T-Mobile offers.
I live out of market for my team, but I was very pleased that Red Zone was available on YouTube TV. Adding that is cheaper than the Sunday Ticket option that includes it, and plus with Sunday Ticket you can't watch it on more than one TV at a time, even in your own house, which is so dumb. With the separate Red Zone, now I can watch it all over the house and have the Sunday Ticket on another TV. I hope they don't screw this up.
 
You're basing your argument on Facebook and one Facebook post??

There are numerous articles, posts, discussions online about the popularity and millions of fans of NFL football outside the U.S. Throw China into the mix, and there may be even more fans outside the U.S. than in the U.S.

Your statement that "literally no one outside of the US cares about the NFL" simply isn’t true.
No I am basing this that on the TOP TWO Google results for NFL Australia. And yes, any sport with any traction would have a Facebook group with more than 7000 members. Let's take another sport that Australians also doesn't give a **** about: ice hockey. It still has 9000+ fans on Facebook.
 
And practically every human inside the US doesn't give a **** about Futbol/Soccer or Cricket.
So that’s a little over 4% of every human on Earth then. Not much to go on regarding popularity of US centric sports verses the biggest sports on the planet.
 
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Amazon shows midweek premier league games.

I know but I'd like them to buy the complete rights so we can watch all games instead of what Sky chooses we can watch. Even other countries can watch our non-televised games which is ridiculous.
 
So that’s a little over 4% of every human on Earth then. Not much to go on regarding popularity of US centric sports verses the biggest sports on the planet.
Nearly half the world's population struggles to live off of less than $5.50 a day.... so we're not really talking 4%. Apple is not going after people who can't afford it's products.
 
Nearly half the world's population struggles to live off of less than $5.50 a day.... so we're not really talking 4%. Apple is not going after people who can't afford it's products.
I think you get my point. If you don’t, well it’s just another case of inflated importance.
 
Nearly half the world's population struggles to live off of less than $5.50 a day.... so we're not really talking 4%. Apple is not going after people who can't afford it's products.

This is one of the key factors for a streaming service when deciding to add/buy sports (or other) content. How many people would be willing and able to add the service in order to get the content, and is it going to be enough subscribers for the price the service would have to pay for rights to the content?
 
This is one of the key factors for a streaming service when deciding to add/buy sports (or other) content. How many people would be willing and able to add the service in order to get the content, and is it going to be enough subscribers for the price the service would have to pay for rights to the content?
Exactly. It doesn't matter that the EPL has billions of fans worldwide, when most of them have little hope of ever obtaining a broadband connection capable of streaming the games, much less paying for broadband and an Apple TV+ sub. The number of NFL fans worldwide may pale in comparison, but they're much more likely to be willing and able to pay a premium to see out of market games. NFL Sunday Ticket is enormously popular.
 
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