OMG, every product is a first gen product. This RevA, RevB stuff is a myth.
BTW, a camera in the iPad, either front and rear facing, is stupid IMO.
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OMG, every product is a first gen product. This RevA, RevB stuff is a myth.
BTW, a camera in the iPad, either front and rear facing, is stupid IMO.
I guess you never heard of Wi-Fi....
Yes, I am serious. Wi-Fi is all over the place and showing up in more places every day. This idea that I cannot take an iPod Touch out of my house is the stupidest thing I've heard all evening. I took it on a trip to California last year and even ordered pizza with it from Papa Johns from my hotel room. Ever hear of McDonalds? Starbucks? Nearly every hotel on the planet that is located in a civilized area has it. Airports have it. While it's not always free, it's usually available close by. I would have supported a nation-wide tax to make it universal in the U.S., but private companies would have been ticked that they cannot charge for it, so it's another case of big business fraking it up for the common man. Hooray for Capitalism bribery...cough, I mean lobbying.
You're the last person that should be calling people morons after what you wrote above, IMO.
There's something very ironic about someone using the words "immature" and "imbeciles" in the same sentence together and then expecting ANYONE to take a word they say seriously.
Yes, you're VERY mature there guy.
Gotta love the early adopters and beta testers
The good news is unlike buying a car at first iteration, Apple gear is mostly just a software update if there is an issue. I've been grabbing anything new from Apple since 1978 and have had no regrets. Ok, granted the 48L Apple ][ needed a 16K Language card
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Got mine first week. Couldn't be happier. I like the idea of an option for face time on a future iPad model, however I wont rush out to buy one. I don't even use face time on my iPhone......of course a newer one will come out. I buy things to enjoy and use them, not stress out about a newer model that's going to come out anyways.
Retina Display and Im sold, however I don't see it happening. My fingers are crossed.
I've already been on the fence about getting an iPad for Christmas but if there is one coming with a front facing camera and that's the only change, I'll gladly hold out for that.
I want to use the iPad as a home use only replacement to a laptop.
When I'm at home I just use my MBP for surfing and skyping and printing up things from time to time.
Even if they did a 7" but with front facing camera and for less than the lowest cost model now I'd be all over it.
I want to use the iPad as a home use only replacement to a laptop.
When I'm at home I just use my MBP for surfing and skyping and printing up things from time to time.
Even if they did a 7" but with front facing camera and for less than the lowest cost model now I'd be all over it.
I personally could care less about FaceTime. Some people may love it. I am not one of them. I can think of many cool things that could be done with more than one iPad. If a new model does come out, I might get it just so I have two. If the new iPad has more RAM, a faster processor or a space marmot detector (TM), I will definitely get one.
That was one of the obvious uses for the iPad from the very beginning. The camera's omission on the original iPad is classic Jobs screwing the customers MO and why I didn't buy one yet.
Apple updates their products way too much.
Its great that technology takes a step ahead each year, but sometimes I get a feeling they cripple products on purpose now, so in the future they add more features just to sell it as "2nd generation" .
For example, what made Apple unable to add facetime, Retina display, or anything more on the current iPad?
If facetime is all they will add, then no worries. But if the new iPad wil be thinner, lighter, faster, with more mhz and RAM . I think a lot of people will be upset.
Apple should at least make their products last 2 years, or make them upgradable.
Its great that technology takes a step ahead each year, but sometimes I get a feeling they cripple products on purpose now, so in the future they add more features just to sell it as "2nd generation" .
For example, what made Apple unable to add facetime, Retina display, or anything more on the current iPad?
If facetime is all they will add, then no worries. But if the new iPad wil be thinner, lighter, faster, with more mhz and RAM . I think a lot of people will be upset.
Apple should at least make their products last 2 years, or make them upgradable.
I'm sure we wont see this ipad 2 until early Feb. at best. As long as Microsoft, HP & Sony Etc. continue to take it's sweet As* time to build one, apple will have no one to compete with. So it's no need to hurry production.
I'm sorry that you did not get the joke...
I'm astonished at your arrogance. Who are you to determine that the ways I or everyone here use my / our gadgets is right or wrong? It works for me in much more than those two situations I described. Hell, I could use it to wipe my *ss and it would still work for me, and you wouldn't have anything to say about it.
So, what idea are you trying to sell here? That the iPad is useless? There are literally millions of these things round, and everyone uses it in his own way. I still have to meet an iPad owner that says he doesn't use it. Leave us with the thing to do what we want, without selling us your no-ipad religion. It's getting old...
To summerize:
Posted from my iPad
- unlike other companies, Apple is a company focussed on making money out of people that like to buy their stuff
- anyone that bought a 1st gen iPad is insame, including myself and 3+ million others
- the ipad itself is useless except for those that bought an use it
- we all know nothing about a new iPad
- we don't need a camera alhough some find it usefull for video, photo's and facetime
- if it had a retina display we would all buy a new one except for the those that find the iPad useless to begin with
- this whole posting was useless, but at least now we know
Posted from my iPad
Not true!
While it is a safe bet that generation 2 will be better than the 1st, they often completely lose it around generation 4 or 5, by going overboard with stylish nonsense at the price of omitting important things.
Examples: iPod Shuffle 3, gimmicky iPod Nano 6th (I immediately bought a refurbished 5G instead!), current downgraded but not much cheaper Macbook without FW. The G4 Quicksilver too was much better and more reliable than its noisy and buggy MDD successor.
A typical 1st generation example was the unibody Macbook. Fantastic new design, a decent graphics card but unfortunately goodbye to FW. Whether you received a decent display or an utterly crappy one was pure lottery. Generation 2 which followed only 8 months later was such a major improvement, they had to rename it "Pro".
Why not releasing a minor iPad 1.5 update before Xmas with more RAM and a camera?
This would buy Apple enough time to move the iPad 2.0 update towards the annual iPhone and iOS update cycles. Since both devices and their apps are tied to the same OS, software development would benefit greatly from such an approach.
Oh lord. Here where I live (Sweden), we STILL haven't gotten the first generation iPad in stores yet, and no word on when it will start selling here. Odd to see rumors about second generation products when the first one isn't available yet. And to be honest, I don't get why - iPhone 4 and older generations of products usually appear here without much delay, a few weeks at the most. If there is any truth to this, I just hope Apple will launch the new iPads here before 2012..
Because that wouldn't be a small update. Apple will continue to work on a yearly cycle, I have no doubts.
There is nothing wrong with buying a first generation product. By the time the new revision of the iPad comes out I will have been using and enjoying my product for a year whilst those that chose to wait haven't. It's just that simple! I went out and bought a first generation iPod Touch too, and I still have it as I see no reason to upgrade.
I purchased an iPad because I saw a purpose for it, not because I had to have the newest gadget. I'd previously been fortunate to be able to 'test-drive' one for a week or two to help me decide if it was something for me. I use it every day and it's one of the first Apple products I own that my wife actually enjoys using too. All in all money well spent.
When you buy something you just have to use a little bit of common sense.
Ahah! So you're one of the 111+ immature imbeciles who, for reasons only known to immature imbeciles, clicked "Negative" on this great story.
Well let me break it down for you. All Apple has to do is make FaceTime compatible with iChat. We could then use an iPad over WiFi to video conference with a desktop user running iChat. That is what I've been holding out for and is why I currently don't own an iPad.
It really is simple for Apple to implement. They just need some encouragement. So if you agree, send them an intelligently written email to that effect (yes, I already did):
http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipad.html
Wrong. You are ignoring the fact that intelligent people schedule calls -- yes, even for personal video conferencing. I reside in Japan and do that all the time to allow my parents to see their grandkids. Just schedule a video conference, then turn on your iPad and wait for the call (or initiate the call yourself). So long as Apple can make FaceTime compatible with iChat, it will be quite useful and work just fine.
Yet another reason why we need to be thankful that Steve Jobs and the rest of the Apple team do not have your brain. My god! "I don't need it, so I don't think other people need or use it either, therefore, let's stop thinking about it." How selfish, shortsighted, and utterly rude. In light of your post, I can just imagine that people like you probably submit feedback to Apple saying, "Dear Steve, please don't add such-and-such a feature because I don't think it is useful." Absolutely outrageous.
Stingray, remember the first gen iPhone (i have one) it never launched in Sweden. The first one for us was the 3G, which we got a few weeks after US... It may be the same story here for us but don't complain - there are lots of countries without iPhone as of today!
I'm selling the same idea I was when you started to reply to me. That the iPad was overhyped, people bought into said hype and a lot of them are now struggling to find proper use cases.
You decided to reply to me to try and convince me otherwise. Like I said, even some die hard Apple guys at my work admitted as much and are considering selling the thing. Use it however you want, I still don't see it as useful for my own personal use and my co-workers corroborate with their own personal experiences with one.
That's all there is to it. You tried to convince me with some edge use cases. If you don't want me to reply to you, don't reply to me. That's how conversation works.
2048x1356 screen on an iPad would be 263PPI. To get it to 326 like the IP4
You don't hold an iPad as close to your eyes as you do an iPhone, hence you don't need 326 PPI to get a "Retina display" (seriously, that marketing buzzword needs to die!). Do you even know what they meant by retina display ?
Maybe more evidence in support?
Don't know how significant this is but, I have just synced my iPad and I received a message regarding iMovie to say that this would not be installed as it requires a later version of the iOS. As the updated iOS for the iPad, 4.2, is due in November, then maybe the iPads with cameras and facetime are not so far off.
Don't know how significant this is but, I have just synced my iPad and I received a message regarding iMovie to say that this would not be installed as it requires a later version of the iOS. As the updated iOS for the iPad, 4.2, is due in November, then maybe the iPads with cameras and facetime are not so far off.
I still think Apple releasing a new iPad before Christmas would be shooting themselves in the leg. They're not dumb - the current iPad is selling like hotcakes. The only thing they'll get from refreshing the iPad now is consumer fury.
Because the primary structure was already designed to fit a camera. There's a hole here, for heaven's sake.
Without adding a camera to the iPad that obviously doesn't make sense.
So either Steve mixed thinks up or Apple does have some new hardware in store as part of the iOS 4.2 launch in November.
With more people NOT having an iPad than having one, November sounds like a great month to introduce soemething new. I don't mind making a family member happy with a 6 month old iPad
Yes and more people don't own a car than own one, which also applies to houses, iPods and microwaves. You're aware there are over 7 billion people on the planet?
Apple have a 12 - 18 month product cycle, they're not about to break that for many sensible reasons, and also to enable consumers to make educated decisions on purchases based on anticipated product revisions.