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Apple is reportedly shifting around iPhone XR orders amongst its manufacturing partners to ensure production issues don't cause supply constraints when the smartphone officially launches late next month.

According to a Chinese-language Economic Daily News (EDN) report, Pegatron has lost up to half of its original iPhone XR orders to Foxconn, following delayed shipments of some key components and a shortage of workers at its plants in China.

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Apple had originally divvied up between 50 and 60 percent of total orders for the lower-cost LCD iPhone to Foxconn, with Pegatron taking about 30 percent of orders. However, Apple has recently lowered the portion of iPhone XR orders allocated to Pegatron to below 30 percent, while ramping up those to Foxconn substantially.

On top of that, the supply of LCD panels from Japan Display (JDI) for the production of the iPhone XR has not been steady, according to the report. Pegatron and Foxconn declined to comment.

Morgan Stanley analyst Katy Huberty cautioned in July that Apple's 6.1-inch LCD iPhone would not launch until October because of issues with backlight leakage, although it's not clear whether the latest LCD supply constraints are down to the same problem.

The iPhone XR starts at $749 in the United States. The October launch means Apple will likely lose a few sales to customers this month who are interested in a new iPhone but don't want to pay several hundred dollars more for the iPhone XS and XS Max, which start at $999 and $1,099, respectively. Because of this, Huberty saw Apple delivering a "slightly weaker-than-consensus September quarter."

Global shipments of Apple's new iPhone lineup are expected to exceed 85 million units in the second half of the year, with the more budget-friendly iPhone XR expected to account for over half of all sales.

Apple's lower-spec iPhone XR features an edge-to-edge "Liquid Retina" LCD display with wide color and True Tone support, and the same all-screen design as the OLED-based iPhone Xs and Xs Max, but with an aluminum frame instead of stainless steel.

Other downgrades from the iPhone XS that make the XR cheaper include a single-lens rear facing camera instead of the dual lens on the XS, and a lack of 3D Touch support.

The lower-priced iPhone XR becomes available to order on Friday, October 19, with orders shipping the following Friday, October 26.

(Via DigiTimes.)

Article Link: Apple Reallocates iPhone XR Orders Among Suppliers Following Production Issues
 

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The exclusion of 3D Touch baffles me. I mean all the cheaper iPhones (7 and 8) have it, so it is weird that this new model lacks it. Hope to see a tear down onepce it is released so we can see if the exclusion is warranted or not.

Having said that, if the trade off is less battery (like the 6S), I rather have it gone then.
 

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My biggest concerns regarding the Xr: those huge bezels.
I don’t really care about the second camera, OLED or Resolution of the screen.
 
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If you compare it to the plus or X models it’s lower. If you compare it to the vanilla 6-8 models, then it is the same.
 
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The exclusion of 3D Touch baffles me. I mean all the cheaper iPhones (7 and 8) have it, so it is weird that this new model lacks it. Hope to see a tear down onepce it is released so we can see if the exclusion is warranted or not.

Having said that, if the trade off is less battery (like the 6S), I rather have it gone then.

Even if I lost a bit of battery I’d be happier if it included 3D Touch.

The XR is in an odd place… Cheaper than the XS, but bigger? It would make much more sense fitting in if this was a smaller device than the XS that replaced the SE.
 

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Even if I lost a bit of battery I’d be happier if it included 3D Touch.

The XR is in an odd place… Cheaper than the XS, but bigger? It would make much more sense fitting in if this was a smaller device than the XS that replaced the SE.
Well, looking at my current 6S, as nice 3D touch is, I'll take larger battery anytime.
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And don't forget lower PPI 401 -> 326 ppi
PPI is just the new megapixel. Anything above 300ppi is already sufficient for comfortable viewing on such portable device.. Heck, I have Android phones with large 720p screens, and I don't notice a huge difference with other 1080p/QHD phones. In fact, I appreciate the better battery life and smoother performance.
 
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Well, looking at my current 6S, as nice 3D touch is, I'll take larger battery anytime.
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PPI is just the new megapixel. Anything above 300ppi is already sufficient for comfortable viewing on such portable device.. Heck, I have Android phones with large 720p screens, and I don't notice a huge difference with other 1080p/QHD phones. In fact, I appreciate the better battery life and smoother performance.

There seems to be a lot of posters who have no interest in the xr, disparaging the display based on one metric resolution and not fully understanding how ppi is calculated.

But this sort of behavior seems to happen every year.
 

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My biggest concerns regarding the Xr: those huge bezels.
I don’t really care about the second camera, OLED or Resolution of the screen.

Yeah. That ain't no all screen design.

Same as how using a black area around the notch on the XS wallpaper in PR photos doesn't physically make the notch disappear :D nice try Apple
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Well, looking at my current 6S, as nice 3D touch is, I'll take larger battery anytime.
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PPI is just the new megapixel. Anything above 300ppi is already sufficient for comfortable viewing on such portable device.. Heck, I have Android phones with large 720p screens, and I don't notice a huge difference with other 1080p/QHD phones. In fact, I appreciate the better battery life and smoother performance.

I run my s7 edge at 1920x1080 if I am out for a long day unless I'm using GearVR when it kicks back up to 2560x1440 automatically.

Down at 1280x720 though if you look hard enough I really do start to notice it on text in particular: and the s7 edge is 534 PPI.

Handy being able to resolution on the fly.
 
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Yeah. That ain't no all screen design.

Same as how using a black area around the notch on the XS wallpaper in PR photos doesn't physically make the notch disappear :D nice try Apple
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I run my s7 edge at 1920x1080 if I am out for a long day unless I'm using GearVR when it kicks back up to 2560x1440 automatically.

Down at 1280x720 though I really do notice it on text in particular.

Handy being able to resolution on the fly

I disagree, no forhead and no chin as well as edge to edge display makes it an all screen design.
Those android handsets that claim to be all screen also comes with a nasty chin.


Don’t think the s7edge is comparable to the xr or it’s display.
 
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I disagree, no forhead and no chin as well as edge to edge display makes it an all screen design.
Those android handsets that claim to be all screen also comes with a nasty chin.


Don’t think the s7edge is comparable to the xr or it’s display.

Unbox Therapy: the iPhone XR is depressing - same PPI as the iPhone 4

No you're right.... Nowhere near comparable to a 3 year old phone. In fact the S4 had a higher resolution. After all the brand new XR is the same PPI as the iPhone 4, an LCD not OLED, and far lower resolution than even the S7 Edge ;)

You can't even watch 1080p YouTube on it!
 

Delgibbons

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Did people make this much fuss about the 8 having the same PPI as the 4 last year?

I think it's more the fact they could easily have put a 1080 screen in for very little cost these days but didn't possibly ONLY to separate it from the higher end XS models.....
 
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PPI is just the new megapixel. Anything above 300ppi is already sufficient for comfortable viewing on such portable device.. Heck, I have Android phones with large 720p screens, and I don't notice a huge difference with other 1080p/QHD phones. In fact, I appreciate the better battery life and smoother performance.

Exactly.

I went to the Apple Store last weekend to check out the XS Max, because I may buy one. I own a “regular” iPhone with 326ppi LCD and think the display is very good, but figured the Max’s massive OLED should blow my puny iPhone’s screen away!! It didn’t. The colour shifts at oblique viewing angles, which affects all OLEDs, was more noticeable than I had imagined, probably because the screen is so tall and viewing the top and bottom of the screen requires me to view at an angle. Not sure, but the colour shift was there. The Max was far more comfortable, and less slippery, than I thought it would be, which is great, but now I wonder about the Xr and its Liquid LCD... o_O

I’ve also had a 1080p (LCD) Android Phone, and couldn’t tell much difference in quality compared to my iPhone. I just don’t think PPI makes as much difference as people make it seem. :confused:

Anyway, if the Xr screen ends up being comparable to the Max when held side-to-side, I’ll get the Xr. The better battery life alone may make it the iPhone to get! It’s also a bit smaller, with the same canvas size for apps as the Max.
 
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Unbox Therapy: the iPhone XR is depressing - same PPI as the iPhone 4

No you're right.... Nowhere near comparable to a 3 year old phone. In fact the S4 had a higher resolution. After all the brand new XR is the same PPI as the iPhone 4, an LCD not OLED, and far lower resolution than even the S7 Edge

You can't even watch 1080p YouTube on it!

Actually you are incorrect. He has claimed in that video the iPhone xr has the same resolution as the iPhone 4. Which is categorically false and misleading.

You realize in the video he has confused ppi and resolution and is using them interchangeably...right?

That’s not accurate because ppi and resolution are two separate metrics and cannot be used interchangeably.


The xr also has the same ppi as the iPhone 6/6s/7/8 and has a higher ppi then the pads even though the iPads have much higher resolutions compared to the xr,8,7,6s,6,4s and even your s7.
The iPads have lower ppi but higher resolution... your argument kind of falls apart here.

Your completely right the xr isn’t comparable to your s7;
having a 7nm soc with an 8core npu
nvme storage
3D facial biometrics
edge to edge display without a forehead and chin
record 4K videos

It not only surpasses your s7 but crushes the s9 and note 9 as well in hardware and price.

But you keep focusing on only one metric of the display, resolution.

No one else will, enjoy your device.



Ps: your wrong about that as well, xr can play 1080p video on YouTube, don’t take my word for it, you can ask anyone with an iPhone 6/6s/7/8.
 

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Hard to understand production issues in a mobile that is using outdated tech(except A12)!! I can understand XS and XS Max having issues with display chin, 3D touch, larger screen etc...
 
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Hard to understand production issues in a mobile that is using outdated tech(except A12)!! I can understand XS and XS Max having issues with display chin, 3D touch, larger screen etc...

Might be hard for you to understand because you believe it to be outdated tech.
It’s not.
 
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Actually you are incorrect. He has claimed in that video the iPhone xr has the same resolution as the iPhone 4. Which is categorically false and misleading.

You realize in the video he has confused ppi and resolution and is using them interchangeably...right?

That’s not accurate because ppi and resolution are two separate metrics and cannot be used interchangeably.


The xr also has the same ppi as the iPhone 6/6s/7/8 and has a higher ppi then the pads even though the iPads have much higher resolutions compared to the xr,8,7,6s,6,4s and even your s7.
The iPads have lower ppi but higher resolution... your argument kind of falls apart here.

Your completely right the xr isn’t comparable to your s7;
having a 7nm soc with an 8core npu
nvme storage
3D facial biometrics
edge to edge display without a forehead and chin
record 4K videos

It not only surpasses your s7 but crushes the s9 and note 9 as well in hardware and price.

But you keep focusing on only one metric of the display, resolution.

No one else will, enjoy your device.



Ps: your wrong about that as well, xr can play 1080p video on YouTube, don’t take my word for it, you can ask anyone with an iPhone 6/6s/7/8.

I can record 4k videos on the S7:) just not 60p.

And the XR screen resolution is 1792x828. That's not high enough for true 1920x1080 1080p video viewing:

1792 is lower than 1920
828 is lower than 1080

;)

Plus the 3840x2160 4k videos recorded on the XR are going to have even lower detail played back on that low res screen....
 
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