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Those are all great feature goals, but during the run-up to their release, Apple should have developed Siri so that it could at least do the things that Apple claims it can currently do, as well as not promise features that surely plenty of people working on Siri should have known couldn't be released in the time frame that Apple claimed starting at WWDC in 2024.
Nobody cares. Most of us don’t want to talk to our phones.
 
What, you think Steve did everything himself? Forestall, Ive,
Schiller, the guy who was in charge of the physical Apple Store, and Cook -- they all contributed to Apple's success.

The one skill that Jobs had that Cooks seems to lack is the ability to attract and keep A-class people. Jobs put together a great team of top-class people, and managed to get the best out of each of them. Unfortunately, that's the rarest of skills. It's disappointing Cook isn't Jobs, but someone like Jobs comes only once in a generation, if that.
Apple was a joke until Steve came back… On the verge of bankruptcy. Last time I checked, Cook wasn’t sitting on stage presenting the innovative products, or on the stage fixing antenna-gate, marketing to gain awareness of said products, or doing anything to make great products. Tim didn’t have any ideas or anything to do with Apple’s success. He was told to have the supply chains produce “x” amount of phones and that’s about it. Supply chain is a product of other people’s work.

Now that Jobs has been dead for over a decade, it looks like what we’ve feared, that Tim has no ideas on another great, innovative product. VR? Fail. Car? Fail. Apple Watch? That was Jobs’ last great idea before he died. AirPods? Good headphones existed before AirPods.

People are still giving Tim the credit for Steve’s money making “inventions.” They guy has the easiest CEO job in the world… Just sit back and milk Steve Jobs’ work to become a trillion dollar company. No actual innovation needed anymore because his work was already done for him.
 
Apple was a joke until Steve came back… On the verge of bankruptcy. Last time I checked, Cook wasn’t sitting on stage presenting the innovative products, or on the stage fixing antenna-gate, marketing to gain awareness of said products, or doing anything to make great products. Tim didn’t have any ideas or anything to do with Apple’s success. He was told to have the supply chains produce “x” amount of phones and that’s about it. Supply chain is a product of other people’s work.

Now that Jobs has been dead for over a decade, it looks like what we’ve feared, that Tim has no ideas on another great, innovative product. VR? Fail. Car? Fail. Apple Watch? That was Jobs’ last great idea before he died. AirPods? Good headphones existed before AirPods.

People are still giving Tim the credit for Steve’s money making “inventions.” They guy has the easiest CEO job in the world… Just sit back and milk Steve Jobs’ work to become a trillion dollar company. No actual innovation needed anymore because his work was already done for him.
Tim Apple is just a bean counter so he has performed well in that regard. Jobs was a rare visionary at the right place at the right time. There are not a lot of people in this world with that kind of talent.
 
Daring Fireball's blog just blows my mind.
I think Apple has just been stretched too thin lately. They really need to tighten up their focus and narrow what can be accomplished. Chasing the next trend while trying to juggle so many products and services in such a small time frame might be too much.
 
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Daring Fireball's blog just blows my mind.
I think Apple has just been stretched too thin lately. They really need to tighten up their focus and narrow what can be accomplished. Chasing the next trend while trying to juggle so many products and services in such a small time frame might be too much.
Agreed, they need to bolster the software side, the hardware guys have done amazing things, while software has been average at best.
 
TV anal-ysts have about the same level of intelligence as a badly behaved parrot. Taking them seriously is at your own peril.
Sure, but it shows that the Apple Intelligence issues are being talked about in venues with a larger reach than just MacRumors and other tech forums, and so more people are becoming aware of them.
 
I feel like this sort of explains why Siri is what it is. The product is not good. The promised improvement to the not good product is not here as promised.

Instead of telling the team this, they get told how great Siri is, and how great they are for trying so hard.
 
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He was told to have the supply chains produce “x” amount of phones and that’s about it. Supply chain is a product of other people’s work.
Supply chains are necessary to mass produce products and get them to the end users. Jobs could have thought up all the most innovative products in the world, and without a supply chain they would just have been prototypes sitting around in his garage. I bet there were times when Jobs said "I need aluminum to build X," and Cooks said, "well, we could source the aluminum from country Y or country Z," and they spent the whole evening debating the merits of which country to get it from. That's also part of the details of creating technology products. It's part of why Apple became as successful as it is today.
 
SO basically, entire iphone line teams have been doing nothing for years and just providing incremental hardware update... let's face it there is ZERO innovation at apple and only their hope is to buy into 3rd party company in hope that it will give them new revolution features. Even that, they cannot do it correctly w/ all that money.. I don't know.. But yet, apple stocks are doing fine(which I am happy w/)...
 
SO basically, entire iphone line teams have been doing nothing for years and just providing incremental hardware update... let's face it there is ZERO innovation at apple and only their hope is to buy into 3rd party company in hope that it will give them new revolution features. Even that, they cannot do it correctly w/ all that money.. I don't know.. But yet, apple stocks are doing fine(which I am happy w/)...
Well their stock is doing fine largely because they are selling lots of products and services. I'm just guessing here but I suppose they sell lots of products because people like them. Sure many like the competitors' products better but still quite a few like the Apple ones. I suppose many of those happy users are now saying "bummer, I was hoping to try out some of the cool Siri improvements but I guess I'll have to wait" then they move on to other things in their lives. Like all companies at various times Apple needs to get a better handle on this. They've had their share of issues in the past (Newton anyone?) but move on and seem to sell product well.
 
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You literally would not know anything about this individual if you hit him with your car. Calling for someone’s job over NOT shipping a product that is NOT ready for shipment is laughable. Settle down.
This person has been in charge of Siri for years now and has been collecting a multimillion dollar salary. What improvements to Siri have happened during his tenure? Let me tell you -none. In fact Siri has gotten progressively worse and to the point that she is unusable. How is that person's position justified when they failed to deliver a product they were supposed to be in charge of for 6 years?
 
So many things. Little big things. The spectrum analyzer in the dynamic island when playing music is actually accurate, as example. Neat. So why is the one in AppleTV not? It's just a generic graph that plays. These are the little big things that Steve Jobs would absolutely have made sure it worked the same. The little things. The little touches that Apple used to do. He also would've added a proper visualizer.
 
They need a couple of 16 year olds with enthusiasm and programming knowledge. They need someone who isn't going to blindly follow the rules of the job and the project. They need mavericks.

They've had this problem with "the right way to do things" and that won't work when you need radical work done. For all of that BS that they put in their press releases from the 1970s, they haven't had anyone driving, pushing, clawing to new adventures.
Yup, many of the people in the teams that developed the Mac were true mavericks--I followed some of their progress at the time, and tried to get a feel for their mindset, and many of them really were very innovative, bringing in all kinds of disciplines not previously brought to bear on a personal computer. Steve Jobs was to some degree among them, especially in his push to implement true typography on the Mac, except he initially tried to personally control the Mac team beyond what was useful, until he realized his level of micromanagement wasn't entirely helping, and he backed off somewhat and let the actual developers have more say.

Maybe Apple needs to have a new "pirate flag division" as many of the Mac developers saw themselves, like Jeff Raskin, Steve Capps, Andy Hertzfeld, Susan Kare, Burrell Smith, Bill Atkinson, Bruce Horn, Larry Kenyon, and many others. I took the time to list the names of some of them since it's probably been a while since many people have heard them.
 
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I just migrated my 150GB Catalina Photos data to Sequoia where it inflated to 240GB.
Apple, the premium brand worth $3T, seems to struggle with a lot of their software.
OK, well let’s be fair here, Catalina was an operating system from almost 6 years ago.
Expecting any operating system that’s five versions ago and hasn’t even been supported in a security capacity for three years to play nice with today’s very different macOS just isn’t realistic.
Even during the early days of OS X, it’s not like you could go from 10.2 jaguar straight to 10.5 Leopard and expect everything to work perfectly, back then most people recommended clean installs for all of the new updates either way.
 
Apple has been a country mile behind the game since it was purchased from Apple. I still remember when it was a startup stand alone app. It dropped in quality and reliability the moment Apple purchased it. Since then it has been sitting bottom of the pack for over a decade. Its a disgrace.
 
The peanut gallery reaction here is so over the top. Funny thing is, there are so many commenters who spend every day demanding that Tim Cook be fired because they don't like the new shade of Sky Blue or whatever, that when something more significant happens that the company legitimately needs to react to, like this, they can't turn up the volume on their scorn and derision more than it always is. It's easy to laugh at comments from people who cry wolf every day.
You literally said it perfectly.
There are absolutely some serious issues going on at that company.
But when every little tiny UI glitch is met with “fire Tim, fire Craig, fire everyone” it makes it harder to take it seriously when there are real problems.
 
Siri when it was just a standalone English-only text app before Apple bought it worked better on follow-up context than it does 15 years later. Unfortunately I don’t think many people used that version before it was shut down but at the time it really was amazing.

I remember being confused once it launched with Apple at why it couldn’t do what I had done with it a year prior. I thought they’d sort it out quickly, how naive I was.

At launch Voice Control worked better than Siri to call contacts. You could switch between them in setting for a brief period.
 
You literally said it perfectly.
There are absolutely some serious issues going on at that company.
But when every little tiny UI glitch is met with “fire Tim, fire Craig, fire everyone” it makes it harder to take it seriously when there are real problems.
And while they need to deal with this latest problem it's not some order of magnitude greater than antenna-gate, bend-gate and so many other things that hit Apple just like things hit most companies.
 
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I feel like I am coming late to this, but what are the top three or so things where Apple over promised and under delivered wrt Apple Intelligence/Siri?
 
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