They just want it to release so they can post about turning it off.
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Apple Reassures Siri Team Members Feeling Disappointed and Embarrassed by Apple Intelligence Delay
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I’m not sure we can trust what they are saying anymore.
Furthermore, it’s well known that the last 20% take 80% of the time, and looking at LLMs we may never actually achieve those last 20%.
They can't even get Siri to work right with HomePods and they try this Ai BS. lol
Tim Cook should step down. I don’t say that purely to be malicious or capricious. I think his leaving Apple would help Apple regain a little bit of credibility.
But I also think Tim should retire because he was too focused on Apple Vision Pro to give Siri and Apple Intelligence the attention and resources they desperately needed.
But I also think Tim should retire because he was too focused on Apple Vision Pro to give Siri and Apple Intelligence the attention and resources they desperately needed.
That’s a niche audience comprised mostly of older people (and brokers playing it in their office with the sound off). MacRumors has a much larger audience. That segment sounds like propaganda designed to lower the stock price so that hedge funds can reload for the next leg up. Who’s going to tell them that copy and paste handoff won’t work with an Android phone. Or MagSafe. Etc.
60-80% success rate in internal, controlled testing is NOT a number to brag about, Shadow. Real world use, especially in less than pin drop-quiet areas with spotty internet connections, is closer to 20-40% for me. Even functions that should be 100% processed on-device without requiring an internet connection, like pausing GD playback because I’m jogging and want to chat with someone real quick on the trail, requires me repeating myself 3-4 times before the obstinate idiot child graces me with a response. Even then it’s normally preceded with the “doon doon doon doon” chime indicating she’s accessing the internet to process the command. Why the hell does she need to call home to pause playback? On device functionality was supposed to 100% native three generations of iOS ago. Unacceptable.
Besides misunderstanding the time, which happens all the time for the “teens”, my biggest gripe is that you can’t specify by voice which device the timer should be set on.
To be honest, I'm not sure this would be something I would brag about...
all they've shipped from this vision for now is a concept video and that's probably on the UI/UX guys, not the siri team...
it sucks because people upgraded to the 16 from older iphones so they can get those features and it turns out they won't be out for it.
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I agree with you on almost everything except the DEI comment. This has nothing to do with DEI. Full stop.
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I suspect Apple has other goals in mind.
I remain convinced that if Apple had just shipped a worthless chatbot with iOS 18, people would act like it was some sort of accomplishment rather than being pointless noise.
I just migrated my 150GB Catalina Photos data to Sequoia where it inflated to 240GB.
Apple, the premium brand worth $3T, seems to struggle with a lot of their software.
Apple, the premium brand worth $3T, seems to struggle with a lot of their software.
You can ask Siri to speak louder or softer. It responds with “I’ll speak up”/“more softly”, as opposed to “Okay, media will play louder”/“more softly” when you ask it to adjust the volume. Sometimes it mixes up these two different volume requests.
The meeting should have been started with the following statement: “Despite the abundance of resources Apple has made available, Siri’s performance has trailed our competitors and has disappointed Apple’s customers for over a decade. The failure to now keep up with competitors and our promises regarding AI now signals we need to change. We will start this change at the top and John Giannandrea will no longer be leading this team. Now, get back to work and surprise me how fast we can turn this sh*t show around.
Apple is reassuring employees on the Siri team who may be feeling demotivated by the recent Siri delays and the bad press surrounding the company's decisions, reports Bloomberg.
In a Siri team meeting, Apple senior director Robby Walker acknowledged that employees might be feeling "angry, disappointed, burned out and embarrassed" following the Siri delay, but he praised the hard work of employees and the "incredibly impressive" features they developed, saying that Apple would continue to work to "ship the world's greatest virtual assistant" to Apple users. "I saw so many people giving everything they had in order to make this happen and to make incredible progress together," he said.
The situation was described as "ugly" because the Siri features were shown off in public with marketing campaigns and TV commercials before there was a fully functional product. Siri's new functionality was also tied to the iPhone 16 launch in advertising, and it was a feature that Apple used to promote its iPhone 16 models.
Apple decided to delay the functionality because of quality issues, with Walker telling employees that Siri's new features were only working properly 60 to 80 percent of the time.
To encourage employees, Walker demonstrated Siri locating his driver's license number, manipulating apps by embedding content in an email and adding recipients, and finding specific photos of a child. Employees on the Siri team will be able to use time away to recharge and prepare for "hard work ahead."
Walker told employees that it is not yet clear when the new Siri features will be ready for launch, but Apple's statement about the delay mentioned "in the coming year." That has been interpreted as 2026, or in an update to the iOS 19 operating system launching this fall.
Walker said that Apple is aiming for iOS 19, but that the timeline "doesn't mean that we're shipping then." Apple will ship the Siri functions when they're ready to launch, and the company does not want to provide the public with unfinished features, even if "competitors might have launched them in this state or worse."
According to Bloomberg, Apple does not have plans to fire Siri chief John Giannandrea or any other Siri executives at this time, though there have been discussions about moving additional senior executives under Giannandrea to speed up development.
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Apple is behind in many ways (the buck stops with Tim Cook’s leadership and lack of vision). I know that this article is specifically about Siri, but that is just a symptom. Apple is still thinking in terms of annual updates while the world is moving to fast iteration for every from IDE’s (e.g. Cursor and Windsurf) to massive hardware (e.g. SpaceX’s Starship). Using fast iteration they can roll features out as soon as they think they are ready without waiting for a massive marketing campaign for the specific (and underwhelming) product launch – I’m looking at you iPhone 16E.
Apple (and the rest of the world) are releasing products (hardware and software) so fast that unless you have a very different product (e.g. Vision Pro introduction) there is just too much noise for many to want to care. Now people want to know that they have the best in their hand’s or on their desk right now…not a year from today.
Not only would a process of fast iteration get desired features into the hands of the users faster, it would enable Apple to be more nimble and flexible. By not making grand announcements and then failing to live up to them, they avoid the huge embarrassment associated with failing. Instead, they could hold event periodically and with much fanfare to explain what they have done and why it is so good. They could develop and show off those great use case stories they are so good at producing.
Also, continuous releases would mean they can adjust when technology disrupts those well laid plans, as technology is want to do. I get that Apple is a huge corporation. But do they have to act like a national level government? If Apple doesn’t adapt, it is very likely to be disrupted by a horde of smaller faster companies and technology advancements.
Apple (and the rest of the world) are releasing products (hardware and software) so fast that unless you have a very different product (e.g. Vision Pro introduction) there is just too much noise for many to want to care. Now people want to know that they have the best in their hand’s or on their desk right now…not a year from today.
Not only would a process of fast iteration get desired features into the hands of the users faster, it would enable Apple to be more nimble and flexible. By not making grand announcements and then failing to live up to them, they avoid the huge embarrassment associated with failing. Instead, they could hold event periodically and with much fanfare to explain what they have done and why it is so good. They could develop and show off those great use case stories they are so good at producing.
Also, continuous releases would mean they can adjust when technology disrupts those well laid plans, as technology is want to do. I get that Apple is a huge corporation. But do they have to act like a national level government? If Apple doesn’t adapt, it is very likely to be disrupted by a horde of smaller faster companies and technology advancements.
RE the 'here are the search results for what you asked' - agree 100%. I could've saved time by just googling my question. Totally worthless.
Having never used an Android phone or tablet - how do they handle software/OS updates?
The way I see it is this… today Apple doesn’t do anything revolutionary or amazing.. they used to make happen revolutionary products like the iPhone in like 4 years. There’s no excuse that they can’t make the things they do now when all they do is iterative.
Dude, Siri has been out for 13 years. How much time do they need?
The competition to hire that top 1% is brutal so it’s inevitable you end up with a bunch of mediocre as well. Although I see this as a management problem because poor software has plagued Apple for a while now.
Tim Cook is not Steve Jobs because this whole group of clowns I mean engineers would have been fired years ago. I mean they’re just now embarrassed by Siri? I hope they don’t trip over that bar they set themselves everyday.
Poor little guys. I hope they're ok. Thoughts and prayers!
Talking of the 4S, I'm still only comfortable using Siri on my iPad Pro M1 as I used it on the 4S. That is, telling it to wake me up in an hour when I'm napping. And that's pretty sad, but using Siri for anything else always ends up in a headache for me.