That trendforce diagram is misleading. It shows all the layers in the OLED but represents the LED in the microLED as a single layer. That’s not true. The LED will be at least 3, possibly 5 layers. It’s important to compare like with like. The microLED is not necessarily thinner than the OLED either.
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Apple Recently Visited With Taiwanese Makers of Thinner and Brighter MicroLED and MiniLED Displays
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Let's be fair, AU can make decent LCD panel, some were used in previous iPad and iMac. So it really isn't quality problem. They just cant make their best one in large enough quantity at a price that Apple demands.
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Not any time soon. May be Apple Watch 2020, but I think even that is too optimistic.
MicroLED sounds great but I don't think we need brighter screens at this point.
Came here to say this. Every time they have the chance to get beyond the "cant last an entire day without plugging it in" battery life, they just shrink it. Irritating as hell. Would totally give up some of that "thinness" that they love so much for some longer battery life. Who can make it thinner is so 2010...... Lets get practical again. 5 day battery life FTW.
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My sentiments exactly. People seem to be "happy" with the battery life, so instead of utilizing the available extra battery, the processors get faster, or the GPU gets more power-hungry, the pixel density increases on the screen, or they add another pice of hardware that uses more of the battery. It's the same with the iPad. It still sees the same, "10 hours" of battery that it did when the iPad 2 was announced.
Would be badass to see this on the Apple watch. It will make it thinner, so I might finally bite. Now they just need a round version. Also on the iPhone it will be a welcome switch from all those who don't like OLED for various reasons. Currently trending on a budget LCD model with a compromise on size and quality, depending on one's preference.
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I don't know much about the actual layers, but when looking at the diagram in terms of visual space taken up, it appears the actual LED takes up relatively the same amount of space with both OLED and Micro LED. It also appears that the Encapsuation layer is not required in MicroLED, which is what seems to make it significantly thinner. I don't know if that's accurate or not, but that's as it appears in the diagram.
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I don't know much about the actual layers, but when looking at the diagram in terms of visual space taken up, it appears the actual LED takes up relatively the same amount of space with both OLED and Micro LED. It also appears that the Encapsuation layer is not required in MicroLED, which is what seems to make it significantly thinner. I don't know if that's accurate or not, but that's as it appears in the diagram.
Thanks! So, just another backlight LED...
µLED afaik is rather difficult to shrink down. Currently OLED can delivery much higher PPI.
They do, just not in the consumer area. Google Sony CLEDIS
Although, that's no exactly "micro" anymore... shrinking µLED is the real challenge... I think the best so far is 160 PPI(ish)... Probably the shrinking part is currently out of Sony's budget.
I’ll take this to mean you have never used your phone outside.
You do know that since the iPhone 6, they have actually gotten slightly thicker, right?
I’m fine with others being ginuepigs first until it gets perfected ( like display burns on OLED) Apple is never about being first. And it shouldn’t be.
With microLED you get lower cost per unit and you’ll see upgrade to 2560x1440 resolution at a much lower power consumption than on current X display means better battery life too.
Win for Apple, win for consumer, with lower costing phones that don’t have to be $1000 for an OLED screen.
Win for Apple, win for consumer, with lower costing phones that don’t have to be $1000 for an OLED screen.
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iPhone has gotten thicker, with every year thicker than the last for the last few years. 2014 was peak thinness.
Apple’s never going to make a phone that can give the heaviest users the battery life they want; it would be too thick and weigh too much. Apple always designs for the 80-90%, they don’t tend to cater to the outliers.
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Huh. Why would an LED technology require a polarizer? It's the whole mechanism by which LCDs work, but it seems it would only serve to cut LED light output...
And if it's needed for the OLED, why not the microLED?
And if it's needed for the OLED, why not the microLED?
I actually use it a lot outside but I don't want my iPhone to be as bright as the sun to compensate. Overly bright screens are already thought to damage your eyes, along with blue light. Not to mention the pain that occurs when some fool checks their texts in a public, dark environment like a theater with full brightness.
uLED isn't another backlight, it is basically OLED except with organic bits it is solid state, doesn't requires any filter like LCD. Mini LED is a backlight technology used in LCD and requires filters.
the phone hasn't got thinner since the 6, so wth are you even talking about; drinking meme's for breakfast?
LOL... except Samsung's "micro"LED is a joke in it's current form. A standard HD set is currently 146" in size. They are nowhere near getting it down to something that would be practical on a phone.
As for Apple, they don't demo half baked junk. Do a little research and you'll see that Apple is well ahead of the curve with lots of IP on this technology already.
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It's not just about being thinner and lighter. This article didn't really do a good job of selling you on why you want MicroLED. In short, it's basically the holy grail of display technology. All of the benefits of existing tech (and more) without any of the down sides. OLED and existing LCD both have pros and cons. Some favor OLED because of the true blacks and the potential for power savings on mostly dark screens. However, it suffers from burn-in problems and the organic elements don't age in a consistent way which can lead to color shifting problems. MicroLED doesn't have any of those problems. It has faster refresh, thinner, brighter, better color, more power efficient, lasts longer, etc, etc...
Apple's Micro LED Implementation is very different than Samsung's. They have been working on this Black Project for a very long time. Your statement is akin to likening a Exynos 9810 with an A12. Sure, they both utilize ARM Instruction Sets but then end products are very different. The same is true with Apple's Micro LED when it arrives.
We do. Brighter displays means better visibility outside and HDR. It doesn't mean the whole display needs to be at 1000 nits all the time but if it could reach such peaks for like.. explosions and stuff like that it would be a better display.
Please don't compare Apple to Samsung in display technology. Samsung is the industry leader, Apple just buys from Samsung and other suppliers. Apple doesn't have squat in displays. What a joke to even put them in the same sentence. Get a clue.