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Fixed that for you :p

One problem though.

How do we know that driving an electric car ensures a cleaner Earth? That is the biggest problem with electric cars right now, not enough of the power used to charge them is clean and renewable. If all the cars in the world were magically turned into electric versions overnight tonight, the increase in global electric power capacity required to power them all not only doesn't actually exist, but if it did and was generated using power sources in the same ratio as today, it would release a virtually equivalent amount of green house gases and cause equally as much pollution as the current situation of burning fossil fuels in internal combustion engines.

Also, if everyone was driving eletric cars the cost of electricity would rise substantially as well, because of the increased demand, and the need to expand supply to meet it. This would have a knock in effect, making it more expensive to power your household as well - say hello to skyrocketing utility bills!

I mean we already have several areas of the US having brown-outs. The power grid is already in need of upgrading and expanding, and is struggling to meet the population's ever increasing demand for energy.

Nope, in my opinion, as humble as it is, I believe that the electric car isn't the answer. The answer is an upgrade of the global power grid in terms of not only capacity and infrastructure but also of power source.

If you have coal, gas and nuclear power generating the lion's share of your electricity, what's the point of electric cars?

Viable Solar, Wind, Tidal, Water and Geothermal power generation technologies need to be developed and built out on a global scale and implemented into the grid in combination with a move to electric powered transportation, otherwise it is literally pointless.

Not that I don't want a Tesla Model X more than badly, and not that I don't claim I wouldn't feel better about myself owning one, over say, an Audi Q7 or something, but I also don't think I would disillusion myself into thinking I am saving the world by driving an electric car.

Your point is valid that the grid needs to catch up. However the power derived from a central power station is much cleaner then that of a small internal combustion engine. Most of the energy is wasted as heat. Oil Well to Wheel is much more efficient with Electric than petrol/gas. Therefore we will save energy.

Also think of all the Fuel tanker driving around using up petrol. The electric infrastructure is all around us we just need to make it more efficient.

Battery tech is getting better, lighter and quicker every year and some of the up coming stuff is insane 20x capacity for the same weight. Cotton based organic batteries. Near instant charging... and when you can get a car that'll charge in an hour for 1500miles+ no one will think twice about Petrol again. Of course some people will still have use of it but for main use cars we will all be going electric.

Hydrogen is a non starter too... it's just another way to control the price and distribution. Hydrogen Gas stations are upwards of 2 million dollars to set up. A fast charging electric station about 50-100K.

And you know the same old guard will be controlling the hydrogen prices and the taxes will be high... they can't overcharge(pun!) for home electric so it will always be cheap. Of course charging when you are out and about may cost some money, well not if you bought a Tesla!, but even the infrastructure is there too... Street lamps! potentially every single street lamp could be a charging point.



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So really wouldn't move the needle at all. Of course that doesn't mean Apple isn't working on it. I doub't Pay is a big money maker. But it does increase the stickiness of iPhones.

I suspect if they are making even 0.1% of sales they are making hundreds of millions a week.
 
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I can tell you as a Tesla Model S owner that Apple has their work cut out for them if they decide to get into the car business. Tesla has done a magnificent job designing and engineering what many consider to be the best car ever made (and I agree) and it's only their second car...

People have been begging Apple to make a car for years and along comes Tesla and basically took what Apple does best and applied it to the car business and totally disrupted it just like Apple does in the computer business. If they want to get into the waters then the more the merrier!!

Apple building an EV would be the best development Tesla could hope for. Elon said his goal is to spur other companies to build more EVs. For whatever reason people think every EV sold by company X is a lost sale for Tesla. In reality there's 99.5% of the car market that is waiting to be replaced with EVs. Apple and Tesla could both sell millions of cars per year and still have tons of room to grow.

By the way, I'm also a Model S owner.
 
OMG, I am surprised nobody posted yet about Shamesung to make an announcement tomorrow that they are already making their Shamecar!

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And so with gUGHgle ... Just like when the iWatch rumors hit it's peak.
 
Apple has so much money it doesn't matter what they are investigating. They can afford it. I believe Tim when he says that the hardest thing to do is say no to some of the products/ideas his team comes up with. If they are pushing for a new car, or some aspect of car design, I'm excited as hell to see what problem it will solve or in what way it will improve upon current car technology.
 
Oh my... I hoped this was supposed to remain a joke

So here's my take on this:

* The US Postal Service is looking at replacing their fleet of delivery vehicles.

* You develop a new delivery vehicle with the wart seen on the top of these
vans that's used to collect data.

* You have the US Postal service use the vehicles to do mapping of every
road in the US.

* Apple mapping problems solved!
 
Apple is a computer company. When they built the iPhone they built a small portable computer with integrated phone service. That's all. I really wouldn't say they are in the phone business now, that's AT&T, Verizon, etc.

And cars are becoming computers on wheels. But they're still considered cars. And that's why the auto industry is ripe for disruption. No one knows how to create a good UI. They seem to get clunkier and more complicated.
 
Well, I know you have to move with the times and expand to different markets, but theirs a HELL of a difference between electronics and a car, self driving no doubt. All Apple has done in cars is make the gear shift knob and rising mechanism for Jaguar, and CarPlay.

You'd think they would make a TV before a car?
 
Oh great.

First, Jony thought he was a UI designer. Now he thinks he's a car designer!

I bet this all started when Apple hired Marc Newson part time to help with the Watch (and apparently those neon iPhone 5C cases).

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Judging from their mutual design history, it'll be a rounded rectangular automobile with beveled chrome bumpers and no steering wheel (too skeuomorphic).
 
Oh my... I hoped this was supposed to remain a joke

It's retarded, considering that for all of the offensive things Apple does, requiring you to pay to get updates is notably NOT ONE OF THEM.

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You'd think they would make a TV before a car?

Why bother? A TV should be just a dumb monitor at this point, at varying sizes for different households and tastes. TVs are a commodity.

There's nothing wrong with Apple aiming higher, but their declining technical acumen certainly calls the likely results into question.
 
Oh great.

First, Jony thought he was a UI designer. Now he thinks he's a car designer!

I bet this all started when Apple hired Marc Newson part time to help with the Watch (and apparently those neon iPhone 5C cases).

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Judging from their mutual design history, it'll be a rounded rectangular automobile with beveled chrome bumpers and no steering wheel (too skeuomorphic).

If the Google Car is any indication, this thing is going to be hideous. Google's car is stupid ugly.

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Why bother? A TV should be just a dumb monitor at this point, at varying sizes for different households and tastes. TVs are a commodity.

There's nothing wrong with Apple aiming higher, but their declining technical acumen certainly calls the likely results into question.

Because a Apple TV with built in services for streaming would be great, even if they do have the now old Apple TV.

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Good lord :eek:

Heh. Sometimes I half-wonder if Steve Jobs left top secret "thermonuclear" revenge orders that Apple should try to one up whatever Google or Samsung does.

Maps, watch, search, big screens, auto-drive cars, etc.

Google has been working for years on it's cars though, yes it is a shame they are ugly pod things haha. But still, I doubt Apple will be able to make any car any quicker. It would be surprising if Apple do this, their must be so much safety red tape to get through for a car design.
 
Right..because building a car it's the difficult part, not the self-drive car system
Sarcasm!
Well i think your are either worried that your $100.000 car will become obsolete or your worried that your precious cars companies like ford, bmw.. who didn't changed a thing in the last 100 years will go bankrupt and stop planet earth from dying

I didn't say building a car wasn't difficult... What I implied is that a company building a good car likely wouldn't want to also spend the resources necessary to build the software to handle self driving cars. This is a software thing, not something car companies are known for being exceptionally good at. Apple, on the other hand, is a software, hardware, and services company. Sounds like a very good market for Apple to get involved in.
 
Oh great.

First, Jony thought he was a UI designer. Now he thinks he's a car designer!

I bet this all started when Apple hired Marc Newson part time to help with the Watch (and apparently those neon iPhone 5C cases).

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Judging from their mutual design history, it'll be a rounded rectangular automobile with beveled chrome bumpers and no steering wheel (too skeuomorphic).

The car is cute, looks like something a 20-30 woman would accessorize with her Iphone :)
 
It's retarded, considering that for all of the offensive things Apple does, requiring you to pay to get updates is notably NOT ONE OF THEM.

For those among us who obviously lack both the sense of humour and the knowledge of history: jokes about Apple making a car are as old as the company itself. What I posted is a write-up that was going around internet from 6-7 years ago — and back then Apple was charging for OS X and (in some cases) iOS updates.
 
Oh great.

First, Jony thought he was a UI designer. Now he thinks he's a car designer!

I bet this all started when Apple hired Marc Newson part time to help with the Watch (and apparently those neon iPhone 5C cases).

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Judging from their mutual design history, it'll be a rounded rectangular automobile with beveled chrome bumpers and no steering wheel (too skeuomorphic).

I'm sure you're willing to post some of those 10 or 20 year old "touch screen" devices that you'be been working on - and they all look totally a-mazing..., right?
 
Street lamps could all become charging points. Apartment block will put in charging points.

Number one that is not a solution available without a huge revamping of the grid and related infrastructure, we're talking huge investment by govt and related utility entities.

Number two, the issue being discussed wasn't the lack of charging points/locations, but the solution to powering the charging points. A poster from Nevada believed that the entire world lives in single family homes in Nevada, where having a personal solar panel array is a viable solution. The truth is that the vast majority of the world's population and users of cars live in concentrated urban areas in apartment complexes of differing forms where that is not an option.
 
Apple has enough cash to buy a few different existing manufacturers.

Actually, not really. Even if they did, they have to stay profitable in order to continue to financially maintain the manufacturing plants. Point is, if they buy it, the car manufacturing plant is their responsibility.

And if they slip up being behind on schedule by spreading themselves thinly with other products, they're going to have huge problems. And also, they have to deal with the US government with regulations. They can't go rogue and do it on their own.

We know they did the watch because they obviously spoke with the FTC and other US agencies for health related sensors. If Apple was going to do a car, then it would've been a given by documentation at the Dept of Transportation or such.

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Apple would probably be better off buying Tesla. I'm betting a nickel they do in 2015.

Don't make me laugh. Elon Musk is no idiot and wouldn't let Apple buy his company. He may admire Apple but he won't let that happen. I consider him as the modern " Tony Stark " of the day.

That would be like Obadiah Stane trying to buy out Stark Industries. Or Justin Hammer.

Telsa Motors is Elon's baby along with SpaceX but he does want to see the market change to the electric vehicle proponent and free from oil/gas. But that will come eventually later.
 
Don't be stupid

Can't drive the Apple car without your Apple Watch and iPhone.

Let's even assume this claim is true. The question then is: SO FREAKING WHAT?

Have you ever actually BOUGHT a car, especially a mid-range luxury car (And I think we can assume Apple is not selling Yugo's here)?
How much does the electronics package cost? (Audio, Nav, screens, On-Star functionality, phone hook up, etc) Compare to the cost of an Apple watch plus phone. Which is cheaper?
And which gets free annual SW updates; gets free nav updates; can easily be replaced when the electronics have improved?

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If the Google Car is any indication, this thing is going to be hideous. Google's car is stupid ugly.

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Well that shows how subjective taste is, doesn't it?
I think the Google car (both the versions we've seen that look like this, with subtly different "facial" features) is mad cute. It just makes me want to cuddle it and protect it from the world.

Opinions about how ugly the Google car are (and how that will impact sales) are basically as valuable as opinions about how ugly the Apple watch are (and how that will impact sales). They're both worth less than spit.
 
Opinions about how ugly the Google car are (and how that will impact sales) are basically as valuable as opinions about how ugly the Apple watch are (and how that will impact sales). They're both worth less than spit.

Ugly cars do not sell. They don't. And the turnover rate for a car is small. You're not thinking before you post.
 
I'm sure you're willing to post some of those 10 or 20 year old "touch screen" devices that you'be been working on - and they all look totally a-mazing..., right?

*laughing* Okay, that's true. Newson did design that car in 1999, and concept cars around that time were not always good looking. Not that that's an excuse for his own's bland shape, of course :)

To me, some of his designs look like George Jetson meets the TeleTubbies: bulbous often-brightly-colored shapes.

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If they are doing a mini-van, I'd love for them to do something Californian like that 2003 Dodge Kahuna concept:

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