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Originally Posted by yac_moda
It not my job to save you

Translation: "I dunno"


Translation: I DO know.

Send me a check for $250 and AFTER it goes through, then it will be my job to teach YOU ALL those things you don't know !!! :D


We don't need no stinking tablets ...

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/info-tech/dn8826.html

"The machine makes it possible to type messages onto a computer screen by mentally controlling the movement of a cursor. A user must wear a cap containing electrodes that measure electrical activity inside the brain, known as an electroencephalogram (EEG) signal, and imagine moving their left or right arm in order to manoeuvre the cursor around." :eek: :eek: :eek:
 
Macrumors said:


Throughout 2005, Apple continued to apply for numerous touch-screen technology patents. These patents aren't simply attributable to the rumored touch-screen iPod. Many of the patents have shown Mac OS X elements and interfaces.

The most recent addition was filed in September 2005 and called "Operation of a computer with touch screen interface".

Just noticed after looking at the images section of the patent application, it mentions that the image pages were published on 9th March '06. Could this be an update from Apple or something?

aussie_geek
 

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aussie_geek said:
Just noticed after looking at the images section of the patent application, it mentions that the image pages were published on 9th March '06. Could this be an update from Apple or something?
USPTO don't publish applications immediately, it takes months before the process gets that far.

Normally you can look up the PAIR data for an application to see what the activity to date looks like, but the records for application 11/228700 are not public yet.
 
iMeowbot said:
I reckon it was probably related to the fact that the old interface kind of sucked, it was a bit of a CPU hog.

What is so obscure about tablets? Graphics applications comprise one of the core Mac markets, tablets are very popular in that market, and all the key graphics applications have been tablet-aware for years.

I don't know how to explain this any more clearly...

I understand that there are tablet PCs in existence. But unless there is a Mac tablet, there is absolutely no need for tablet event handlers in the Cocoa API. Get it?
 
yac_moda said:
Translation: I DO know.

Send me a check for $250 and AFTER it goes through, then it will be my job to teach YOU ALL those things you don't know !!! :D


We don't need no stinking tablets ...

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/info-tech/dn8826.html

"The machine makes it possible to type messages onto a computer screen by mentally controlling the movement of a cursor. A user must wear a cap containing electrodes that measure electrical activity inside the brain, known as an electroencephalogram (EEG) signal, and imagine moving their left or right arm in order to manoeuvre the cursor around." :eek: :eek: :eek:

Still waiting on your response on what applications use tablet events in the Apple Cocoa API...

It's pretty obvious you don't know ****, by the way.
 
iMeowbot said:
USPTO don't publish applications immediately, it takes months before the process gets that far.

Normally you can look up the PAIR data for an application to see what the activity to date looks like, but the records for application 11/228700 are not public yet.


ahhh thanks for that. :) so we will have to keep an eye on it yeah?


aussie_geek
 
balloot said:
I don't know how to explain this any more clearly...

I understand that there are tablet PCs in existence. But unless there is a Mac tablet, there is absolutely no need for tablet event handlers in the Cocoa API. Get it?
There are Mac tablets, and there have been Mac tablets for a very long time. Most of them are made by Wacom.

I am writing this message on a Mac with a tablet. I do not live in the future. I am not holed up in some secret lab, tablets much like this one can be found in shopping malls all over the world.

I am performing this feat using none other than InkServer.app, a Cocoa application (actually, one of those creepy critters that mixes Carbon and Cocoa) that is included with every copy of Tiger.

I bet you will never guess what API it uses.
 
balloot said:
Still waiting on your response on what applications use tablet events in the Apple Cocoa API...

It's pretty obvious you don't know ****, by the way.

I am still waiting for my check.

The price just went up $300.

It is in the mail isn't, you would be pulling my leg would you ???

I won't tell you anything till it goes through.

Why don't you pull out the Cocoa documentation and copy some of the Quicktime calls to a post and swear Apple is building professional video projector with applications and drivers ???

And that it will have embedded information to support nonliner play-back !?!?!!? :eek:

And a network of Macs with remote laser interfaces and audience support :eek:

And Disney is going to buy iMAX and take it to 3D ...

... and Apple will buy Disney because it will ALL be very cheap ...

And Disney will be shipping the projectora with their iNeXT movie to the theaters and THAT is why Stevey J. is now sitting as chairman of Disneys board.

Billy G. is going to be SOOO jealous !!! :cool:
 
macintel4me said:
I was referring to their laptops. All the laptops still have only one button.

There you go again; they're more like 5- or 6-button trackpads.

Your hands are on the keyboard anyway, why not use the buttons; they've been supported for years.
 
Hattig said:
Um, an iPod isn't a computer.

Of course it is.

It accepts (more than one type of) input data, processes it in any of a few different ways, and outputs processed data both visually and audibly.

It's not a *general-purpose* computer, but it's still a computer.
 
balloot said:
Cocoa IS ONLY USED FOR PROGRAMS THAT ARE MADE FOR MAC OSX. If a tablet is going to run Mac OSX, it must be made by Apple. I don't see how you people don't get this...

You're assuming that Apple must be making a tablet computer.

As at least one other poster has pointed out, the calls in question are already used to support the Cintiq products; there is no reason why Apple *must* be working on a tablet product of their own.

Now, they may be, they almost certainly have looked at them in the past; but it doesn't necessarily follow that a tablet computer is a near-term product in development.
 
balloot said:
I don't know how to explain this any more clearly...

I understand that there are tablet PCs in existence. But unless there is a Mac tablet, there is absolutely no need for tablet event handlers in the Cocoa API. Get it?

Sure. You're wrong.

They're usable by devices such as the Cintiq graphics tablets.

For all we know, Wacom paid Apple big bucks to update tablet support in Cocoa, and it won't progress past that.
 
MacRonin said:
8" widescreen multi-touch LCD
1.06GHz ULV Core Duo CPU w/2MB shared cache
533MHz FSB
512MB NAND flash memory
2GB DDR2 SDRAM (two SO-DIMM slots)
80GB 1.8" HDD
Intel GMA950 integrated GPU
WUSB (wireless USB)
AirPort Extreme
BlueTooth
Quad band cell capabilities
Pivoting iSight camera
stereo BlueTooth headset w/microphone
Lithium-Ion nano-tech battery
Stylus
Mac OS X 10.4.6
iLife
iWork

About the size of a DVD case (which is really close to a 16:10 ratio) and half again as thick...

US$666

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It's mine!! Can I already pre-order it?

Jokes apart, I really think that all this patent applications really goes toward something like this...
 
Pure speculation, you understand

How about a scroll wheel on the back of an iPod Video?

As you use the familiar circular and five-way push button mechanism on the back of the iPod, a digital version of the scroll wheel appears on the screen at the front.

This would obviously not be a full-blown user input such as a keyboard/mouse combination provides, but it could be a handy way of keeping a scroll wheel on the iPod while enlarging the screen... and avoiding greasy fingerprints.

Pure speculation, you understand.
 
before macfans go overboard...

Although it's possible Apple is working on a tablet I don't think they'll do anything this radical until both all their hardware transition is complete and OS 10.5 is ready. In my opinion, these features are something that Steve Jobs would love to preview in OS 10.5 just before or after Windows comes out with Vista. It definitely won't be coming out on April 1st, so we should stop building April 1st into a tablet or nothing update.

Steve is building up features slowly, like the iMac G5 transition to an iMac G5 with iSight and Front Row and THEN the intel iMac with iSight and Front Row. He wants to keep building a computer that has JUST ENOUGH cool new stuff to tempt you to upgrade. Why would he bring out a touchscreen MacTablet with all this cool stuff before you can even buy an intel iBook?
 
jonharris200 said:
How about a scroll wheel on the back of an iPod Video?

As you use the familiar circular and five-way push button mechanism on the back of the iPod, a digital version of the scroll wheel appears on the screen at the front.
Too akward ... even if the digital touchscreen showed up on the screen, it would be much too confusing ... if Apple releases a touchscreen iPod, they'll solve the "fingerprints" problem.
 
MacRonin said:
8" widescreen multi-touch LCD
1.06GHz ULV Core Duo CPU w/2MB shared cache
533MHz FSB
512MB NAND flash memory
2GB DDR2 SDRAM (two SO-DIMM slots)
80GB 1.8" HDD
Intel GMA950 integrated GPU
WUSB (wireless USB)
AirPort Extreme
BlueTooth
Quad band cell capabilities
Pivoting iSight camera
stereo BlueTooth headset w/microphone
Lithium-Ion nano-tech battery
Stylus
Mac OS X 10.4.6
iLife
iWork

About the size of a DVD case (which is really close to a 16:10 ratio) and half again as thick...

US$666

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(Come on, it's Apple and they like their fat profit margins...)
 
What did I call me?!!!

waveman216 said:
Think about it, half of typing is knowing you're hitting the keys. I can tell when I screw up because I can FEEL that I didn't hit the right key. A touchscreen keyboard would suck.

I'M A CHICKEN PECKER!!! :D

I type farely quickly but I only use my left and right hand index fingers along with my thumb for the space bar, while looking at the keyboard the whole time. In other words my index fingers peck the keys I need individually, like a chicken pecks at its seeds.

CHICKEN PECKERS UNITE!!! ... Dyslexic chicken peckers UNTIE!!!

We're nowhere near as fast as people who know how to "really" type [professionally, without looking at the keyboard and by touch], but I know that the vast majority of people aren't professional typers... typists.. whatever.

The MacPod/MacPad and it's virtual keyboard wouldn't be meant for those people who need a traditional keyboard in order to right the sequel to "War and Peace" or write lengthy respones in rumor forums, it's meant for those of us who are just going to enter an email address or web url, etc. and maybe just want to read the responses in rumor forums.

We are the majority.
We are the proud.
We are... the chicken peckers.

AND WE WANT THIS MACPOD/MACPAD!!!

- FWIW, I would want it to be something like the image linked below BUT clipboard sized [12"w x 9"h x 1/2"d x 2 pounds max] and with the ability to be used in landscape and portrait orientations.

http://www.macshrine.com/2006/02/25/mactablet/

[I'm aware that the 3rd mock-up pic in that link, using the cd for proportional sizing, would indicate that this device would be a very large 16"w x 20"h!!!. Like I said above, "clipboard sized".]

Philsy said:
Try to type more than a sentence or two on a touch sensitive screen and you'll want a keyboard back. For someone like me who writes thousands of words a day, no one has yet bettered the keyboard.

The MacPod/MacPad is for the millions of people who are not like you "who write thousands of words a day".

We have a very limited use for a keyboard and primarily just want the viewing/playback [8.5" x 11" letter, 8" x10" photo, widescreen video] and connectivity [WiFi, Front Row, Bluetooth, InfraRed] aspects of Mac OS X in a thin and light weight, clipboard sized Apple tablet/pda hybrid.
 
w00master said:
Except that I don't think you understand the $666 reference. This was the original price of the Apple I.

w00master

No I didn't. I thought the original poster was trolling and either calling this device or Apple "evil". That's why I said the price would be $777 instead... and no, I'm not religious.

I got it now though, thanks. :)
 
April 1st: Tablet or Nothing!

my2cents said:
Although it's possible Apple is working on a tablet I don't think they'll do anything this radical until both all their hardware transition is complete and OS 10.5 is ready. In my opinion, these features are something that Steve Jobs would love to preview in OS 10.5 just before or after Windows comes out with Vista. It definitely won't be coming out on April 1st, so we should stop building April 1st into a tablet or nothing update.

Steve is building up features slowly, like the iMac G5 transition to an iMac G5 with iSight and Front Row and THEN the intel iMac with iSight and Front Row. He wants to keep building a computer that has JUST ENOUGH cool new stuff to tempt you to upgrade. Why would he bring out a touchscreen MacTablet with all this cool stuff before you can even buy an intel iBook?

Tablet or Nothing!
Tablet or Nothing!
Tablet or Nothing!
Tablet or Nothing!
Tablet or Nothing!
Tablet or Nothing!
Tablet or Nothing!
Tablet or Nothing!Tablet or Nothing!
Tablet or Nothing!
Tablet or Nothing!
Tablet or Nothing!
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:)
 
balloot said:
Please humor me and explain exactly how any of Wacom's products make use of the Cocoa API.

And there is no patent involved in simply handling tablet events in a system API. Windows has been doing it for years.

I bought Wacom's cheapest tablet about 2 years ago.

I still have NOT upgraded to Tiger YET.

The tablet came with a Wacom driver, but I switched to the driver in OS X which supported basic Gestures, and I tried them out.

"there is no patent involved in simply handling tablet events"

No there is NOT and YOU are the ONLY ONE that is suggesting THIS.

Obviously YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT GESTURES ARE !!!

I suggest you do some studying and find out what they are before you go arguing for conclusions that makes NO SENSE AT ALL :eek: :eek: :eek:
 
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