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Apple Registers Eleven New iPhone Models in Eurasian Database
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But Apple need to bring as many users into the eco system to tie people in and sell services, so it's in their interest to cater to all. Look how long the SE sold for, it wouldn't necessarily be a loss leader.
"There are so many as Apple sells different variants of the iPhone in different geographies, offering alternative cellular band compatibility and a physical dual SIM phone for China." (9to5Mac)
Too many SKUs. Apple needs to go back to one SKU iPhone.
I’m using the iPhone XS Max and it is a great phone. It’s gonna be a tough sell persuading people to upgrade.
That can be said about a lot of things - just because something hasn’t been done doesn’t mean it’s a bad idea.
That being said, I’m just wondering...
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Yes, you are probably correct. But it does seem like a logic step when comparing to their other products; different size to different markets/consumers.
Wrong. As EvilEvil pointed out. Apple needs to return to one SKU. This is fragmentation, pure and simple.
Maybe a clever naming scheme, then. Can’t be worse than the Chevy Nova in Mexico, per legend.
Yep, there's large demand for a smaller phone which is only common sense so why argue about it? The question is if it would benefit Apple who needs their margins and also has to worry about how such a phone would effect sales of it's flagships. Those precious iphone sales are already struggling and a budget phone would be risky.
This isn't the same as the SE. That phone was Apple's XR at that time when phone prices topped under 1k.
All I know is I know several, not just one or two, people who've held on to old iphones because the XR is too big. The XS is still too big (or too expensive). And the XS Max isn't even a consideration. And nope, these people aren't dreaming about buying a new iphone 7/8 which is basically a phone replacement, not an upgrade.
XR Mini makes most sense priced a 100 under XR.
Whatever happened to iPhone 9? Can't believe the iPhone naming scheme just pulled a Windows 10 and jumped to Roman numerals for good and no f--ks were given :/
Just saying there's a large demand for small phones doesn't make it true, again if that's true then why is nobody of the big phone makers making small premium phones? You can act like they're dumb and don't research **** but again they do their research (which is more than based on literally nothing saying that there's a large demand based on some people you know) and apparently there isn't a large demand or they would have made a small premium phone.
And the ones who did make small premium phones (Apple and Sony) stopped making them which says enough. Why would companies not make small premium phones or stop making small premium phones when there's a 'large demand'?
This is actually 1 less SKU than usual. Wonder which one they're dropping and for which country...
People equate small phones with budget phones. Why doesn't Apple break the wheel and do a small premium phone? Takes courage i guess..lol (ok, a lot of courage given their current iphone sales problems). Still, I'm just wanting a smaller XR phone, not exactly SE budget, not exactly top XS premium.
But regarding your precious research? Jobs would've cussed you out and told you to leave the room. People hardly know what they really want. Jobs had the ability to make you want it and be able to sell it. He didn't need bogus research that is largely meaningless. What, you gonna do a survey and ask customers if they'd buy a small iphone that they haven't seen, haven't heard the pitch, or know anything about? It's not reliable.
You can be sure the Japanese model aren't changing, as they require physical changes to Camera Shutter sound. And the Mainland models are required for Physical Dual Sim.
That basically mean one of the model ( Likely XR ) will only have 1 model outside of Japan and China. Where perviously it had US / Canada and World.
( I thought about the Intel 7660 supporting more band ( 45 vs 35 in 7560 ) would be the reason, but given the same applies to XS as well, I can't figure out why other than XR is only 2x2 Antenna. I don't see there is any relation to it. )
Edit: Or another possibility, to save on licensing cost, XR will no longer support CDMA EV-DO. But the saving should be minimal, so I don't think that is the case here.
Edit 2: The only plausible reason, would be cutting the XR China Model. If you want Dual Nano Sim, you have to get the XS Series. XR will only have eSim + Nano Sim.
Edit:3 And I think that theory of cutting XR Dual Nano Sim may be correct if we look at Model Numbers. Colouring represent their previous group. And it is missing one Red in the larger group.
A2111,
A2160, A2161,
A2215, A2216, A2217, A2218, A2219, A2220, A2221, and A2223
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Actually, you got that backward. A company the size of Apple and with the resources it has could easily afford to make a "niche" product (and personally I think the market for a SE sized phone is bigger than people think).
Most SE users just want a new version with updated internals chips and possibly a better camera. Considering they wouldn't be making this out of whole cloth due to the fact they have most of the design parameters in place as well as the parts for it the development cost of producing a new SE would be a rounding error for a company the size of Apple and take minimal resources to complete.
As we see from the other story on the front page of MacRumors today cost is one of the prime factors in buying decisions of Apple products. Apple is getting crushed in developing markets like India because they don't have an entry level priced iPhone. They have had to resort to deep discounts in China to boost the sales of the latest iPhones there and they are completely ignoring the group of people who otherwise prefer the form factor of an SE.
The SE is no different than a Honda Fit or other compact cars. These cars are made to appeal to those who prefer small cars and/or can't afford more expensive vehicles. The hope is that by providing a quality, low priced product they inspire brand loyalty and customers either buy the same model again or graduate to more expensive products in the line-up.
In Apple's case having an entry level, reasonably priced product brings more people into the ecosystem - an ecosystem that once customer is a part of they don't leave as easily - and I remain astonished that this very basic tenant of Business 101 is being ignored and scoffed at by Apple especially now with their emphasis on Services and the plateauing maturing market for high end phones - make an SE and lure customers into your ecosystem and most of them will eventually graduate to buying your more expensive and profitable phones (and people like me who prefer the SE will be kept happy in the process). Simply really.
Its not small market. Apple pushed those people out and forced them into bigger ones. Now that people are used to it they won't bother. If Apple gave options from the beginning then the market would be better distributed. Apple just seemed to push people one direction or another.
I for one would love to see iphone 6 screen in smaller package. Even the 6 screen is a touch to big for my small hands but its still ok (just) for one hand use.
So, lets see what Apple does but the market is not as small as you think.
The current (ridiculous) trend of phablet is temporary I hope.
It is questionable. I would generally agree. At least many people buys music or games and in future they will shell for movies or streaming.
But if there is more like me, it is not valid. I never spent a cent/penny on software/services connected to Apple and using Apple product since 1992.
It depends whether people are byuing SE or older phones because of size or price. But with SE Apple just reused a lot of work and factory equipment to make better phone. They can not put modern bezzeless phone into SE case. So as is rumored there can be iPhone 8 refresh but not that cheap as SE.
