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Apple Reinstating Employee Mask Mandate at Approximately 100 U.S. Retail Stores
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The mask pushers don't really believe they work , it is all virtue signalling at this point, just look back in January when there were mandates and all these pro mask politicians were caught at parties or football games without a mask. They think it is a way to make themselves look like they are helping society when they know cameras are around
This is false, the masks don't prevent you from encountering germs plus , even if they did and you wore one 24 hours a day you still would come in contact with germs. Yes the immune system does need practice in a way but masks in this case make no difference one way or another. I am anti mask but you are in no grave danger of an immune system collapse after taking off the mask and breathing
How are we over two years into this thing and you still don't understand why people are asked/required to wear masks? It's not to "outrun" or "prevent" the pandemic—it's to keep the numbers down to a manageable number so there are hospital beds available for the people who end up in the hospital with it. That's not to mention all the non-Covid-infected people who still need access to the hospital.
There is not one hospital over run now, this is not 2020, seems like you are the one that does not understand. In New Jeresy no mask mandates since last summer and our hospitals have been fine, even through omicron in January
>may 2020, literally just a few weeks in.Wearing a mask doesn't weaken your immune system.
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Not saying you're wrong, but this isn't helpful as it had such a limited and short term scope.
These comparison don’t (and generally can’t) take into account whether the flow of people within these two regions would neutralize any effect of the mandate and whether people actually wore masks more often because of the mandate.
That‘s not really going to work. Since the per-person PCR false positive rate for healthy subjects can be pegged somewhere around the 3% mark - even with a realistic cycle threshold value - then we are guaranteed 30,000 alleged cases for every million people tested. This means almost all of those 30k cases can be considered false positives. As soon as a new variant materialises then people will all rush out to be tested and voila! Outbreak. This is exactly how the UK was reportedly running at c.30k daily Omicron ’infections’ when they were testing one million people per day. Basically one news campaign will create the cases required to reinstate the mask mandate. Mathematical certainty.
I’m sure you’ll disagree and that’s fine but if you think there isn’t a false positive rate then you’ve been mugged off by media propaganda. All tests of this nature have a false positive rate, and when you are indiscriminately screening literal millions of asymptomatic subjects then this becomes a monumental problem. Mask mandates can’t be reinstated based on cases, because cases are meaningless. Mortality is the only metric that matters, and even then it’s often difficult to pin the blame on covid thanks to less than perfect reporting.
Follow the science, they say…unless the math gets in the way, in which case follow the government instead. Ever noticed how a surprise variant is ‘spotted’ somewhere, and the news story precedes the huge outbreak by at least a week? There’s never a surprise outbreak that is later attributed to the discovery of a new variant.
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Stop your rot and do a simple search, there is a mountain of evidence. Hint: evidence isn't on Facebook or YouTube. A research paper has to be peer reviewed before it's accepted as scientific proof etc.
The problem with mask data is that there are plenty of incidences of cases increasing, sometimes for months after their introduction, and the response is always "well, cases would have increased even more."
Yet, on occasion the data does show cases decreasing shortly after, and the response is always "see, they make a massive difference!"
I'm always reminded of our 2 year old catching Roseola in 2020 (a common childhood virus) despite being not leaving the house for 6 weeks. If you can catch a virus in those circumstances...! ?
Yet, on occasion the data does show cases decreasing shortly after, and the response is always "see, they make a massive difference!"
I'm always reminded of our 2 year old catching Roseola in 2020 (a common childhood virus) despite being not leaving the house for 6 weeks. If you can catch a virus in those circumstances...! ?
I don’t use Facebook or YouTube. In fact I don’t use social media at all. Stop my rot? That is little more than an ad hominem attack on an argument you don’t like. I use actual RCT trials, publicly available data and the power of critical reasoning to inform my views. But all that is neither here nor there - you pointed to an epidemiological study in an attempt to paint it as a real clinical trial. I simply countered with a factual correction.
Epidemiology is a useful tool in modelling a hypothesis based on observation and plausible mechanism, but it must always be followed with rigorous scientific experiment. In and of itself it should never be used to steer policy. And definitely not public health policy. To my knowledgeable there is so far only one published clinical trial of any merit, and its findings were that masks have no statistically relevant benefit and may in fact be deleterious vis-à-vis potential adverse effects.
If you’re aware of any real trials that counter this then we can discuss that but please don’t cheapen the debate by alluding to the tired old gullible conspiracy theorist line. No offence but if you’re going to preach following the science then at least have the courtesy of first understanding the scientific method ?
Germany we've been wearing N95/FFP2 masks mandated for at least the last year - up until April this was the status quo:
- Want to go to the supermarket? Wear your FFP2 mask.
- Want to go on a train or a plane? Wear your FFP2 mask and have your vaccine passport and identification papers.
- Want to go out for dinner or for a beer? Wear your FFP2 mask as you go in, have your vaccine passport and identification papers ready. Only remove your mask when you are sat at the table.
Guess what - we still got all the same waves and infection rates as the rest of Europe.
That is with a very complying population obeying the rules and specifically wearing N95/FFP2 for most of their public life. Worked great. ?
- Want to go to the supermarket? Wear your FFP2 mask.
- Want to go on a train or a plane? Wear your FFP2 mask and have your vaccine passport and identification papers.
- Want to go out for dinner or for a beer? Wear your FFP2 mask as you go in, have your vaccine passport and identification papers ready. Only remove your mask when you are sat at the table.
Guess what - we still got all the same waves and infection rates as the rest of Europe.
That is with a very complying population obeying the rules and specifically wearing N95/FFP2 for most of their public life. Worked great. ?
I publish in scientific journals and read original sources when I look into things myself. How many journal articles have you published? Are you able to read any, or let alone understand methods and math abstractions?
Or are you a leddit deboonker that repeats what special interests who editorialize news call a “fact check”? I can at least respect shills who are compensated to tell a lie, and then there are useful idiots (with the full implication of that term)
Thank you for posting this, I’m able to update my block list just by seeing who disagrees with science in the reactions
The numbers out of Virginia prove that...3.7% developed Covid, 0.09% hospitalized, 0.04% deaths, and yet so many vaxxed act like antivaxxers, it makes no sense
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Whether COVID is “upticking “ is irrelevant. If you’re vaccinated and boosted COVID is maybe the flu. Do we mask for the flu? No? Then why mask for COVID? I’ll tell you why. Apple employees and many others in the Tech sector, whether retail, or corporate, are babies. Children.
You really think you could convince 330M ppl to just freeze for 2 weeks…that is living in a fantasy land
Wearing a mask is about slowing the spread (not saying completely stop or 100% prevent) by lowering the probability that the mask wearer can infect someone if they are indeed sick.
It’s not so much about the mask wearer protecting themselves. As you said, the fact that employees can wear masks outside of their jobs in a variety of environments is a reason why Apple is choosing to be cautious and do their part to slow the spread. But we as a society are moving past the point of requiring everyone to mask up again. But even way before covid, in many foreign countries, those that feel sick wear masks when they’re out on public transit, or in the public in general. They aren’t protecting themselves, but rather doing their part to protect others from something as simple as a cold.
That makes no sense. So your arguing the virus has a one-way flight when a mask is on. It can come through your mask and infect you but it can’t get out? Last time I checked, the CDC admitted cloth masks don’t work (slim chance of n95 working). Take a step back and apply some common sense there.
You know that until very recently humans only lived to be like 40, right?
Simple things we take for granted like soap and access to clean water extended our lifespan considerably. Before masks, pandemics raged through populations. Before seatbelts, a car accident was certain death or maiming. There are countless simple, small advancements that have helped keep us all alive longer and in better health and masks are certainly one of them.
Or would you prefer your next surgeon didn’t wear a mask?