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If you’re having trouble imagining AR’s uses, gaming is actually the BEST place to look.

Gaming has used HUD interfaces for pretty much ever.

Because a HUD is so damn useful. LITERALLY game-changing.

A HUD for real life will change how we go through the world forever.
Great, now I'll never have a full health bar.
 
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I know the last few years, apple surely has been the punching bag of many things. Behind the times, products that are getting stale, etc...Seems like apple isn't holding back anymore and is saying enough is enough!
The only people that are actually saying any of that are Internet posters with nothing better to do.
in the real world, Apple watches are saving lives, and changing habits.
AirPods are pushing the Bluetooth and wireless standards forward, making them more simple, and much easier to use.
U1 has huge implications for the future, even if they haven’t been fully realized yet. at the moment, it’s mainly just for AirDrop and HomePod handoff, but imagine what it could be used for in the future.
I think that app clips are going to be pretty big in the future, especially with NFC tags and U1.
A lot of people have been saying that Apple products have been getting boring, but I have to disagree. Sure, fundamentally, the iPhones and iPads from 2015 can basically do the same things that iPhones and iPads from 2020 can do, just much faster and with better screens and cameras.
but if you really zoom out, Apple has been working their tail off on some incredible things. even putting aside things that have huge implications for the future, just look at what they’re doing with their own silicon development. We’re on the first generation of silicon by Apple developed specifically for Macs, and it’s already blowing AMD and Intel out of the water. And that’s just for low powered laptops, imagine what’s going to happen when they put this thing in a Mac Pro.
also, Apple has been making huge developments in the audio space. Sure, the regular AirPods might not have great sound, but the AirPods Pro sure do, and the HomePod and HomePod mini are the best sounding smart speakers in the market. Plus, ever since 2015, Apple has been dramatically improving the built-in speakers of all of their devices, especially MacBooks and iMacs. But even on iPads and iPhones, and even the Apple Watch, the sound quality that can be put out by the tiny built-in speakers is incredible.
so Apple in no way has been getting boring.
 
Reminds me of other promises I’ve heard about “revolutionary” technology in the past. In the early 1970’s there was the first oil crisis. Companies started development of hydrogen powered cars: they were only 20 years away.

There was a price hike by OPEC several times in the very late 70’s and through the 80’s, and governments and companies wanted you to know that they were working on hydrogen powered cars: they were only 20 years away.

Today, for both environmental and economic reasons we have to reduce dependence on oil. Fortunately, car companies and governments are working on a brand new technology-the hydrogen powered car. It’s at most 20 years away.

But when you can buy your reliable and economically feasible hydrogen car you can wear your AR headset to get car and location information displayed and customized just for you. All this within the next 20 years.
Hydraulic powered vehicles are not the future. Electric vehicles are the future, but what we really need to be focusing right now is advancements in battery technology.
unfortunately, over the last 20 years, battery technology has basically fell to the wayside, and it really shouldn’t have. We need to be working on ways to make batteries last longer, be more reliable, and more environmentally friendly to produce. and not just for cars, for phones, tablets, laptops, remotes, cars, anything that runs off of a battery.
 
If you’re having trouble imagining AR’s uses, gaming is actually the BEST place to look.

Gaming has used HUD interfaces for pretty much ever.

Because a HUD is so damn useful. LITERALLY game-changing.

A HUD for real life will change how we go through the world forever.
That would be kind of cool. There could be complications on the glasses
 
"We'll be working together with the blind and partially sighted communities to improve specifically on the people-detection side," added Allessandra McGinnis, Apple's senior product manager for AR, referring to potential accessibility features.

^ ^ This statement seems to refute the weird rumors that an Apple AR device wouldn't have a camera. Maybe not one that could take a photo, but it's got to have a camera.
 
I know the last few years, apple surely has been the punching bag of many things. Behind the times, products that are getting stale, etc...Seems like apple isn't holding back anymore and is saying enough is enough!

not sure they still have the mojo for such a great product.
Watch - strategic fail
AirPods Pro - broken
Services FAIL
I really hope they get the glasses right again - well I hope A company gets it right not necessarily apple

am 100 💯 convinced that glasses are the next big thing after Tesla.
The company which cracks AR will rise very high!
 
"We'll be working together with the blind and partially sighted communities to improve specifically on the people-detection side," added Allessandra McGinnis, Apple's senior product manager for AR, referring to potential accessibility features.

^ ^ This statement seems to refute the weird rumors that an Apple AR device wouldn't have a camera. Maybe not one that could take a photo, but it's got to have a camera.
Is lidar A camera?
 
There are so many areas that could seriously benefit from AR: Museums, Sporting Events, Shopping, Sightseeing, Traveling, etc...
I feel however we are a good bit away from any realistic use of this. I am sure we will start seeing niche fits surfacing, but broad everyday use? Not yet.

Apple, along with everyone else, still has a ways to go.
JMHO YOMVW :)
 
AR has specific use cases. Not sure it will ever be “needed” by the masses. I think this is a lack of visionary prowess by a supply chain CEO.
 
This is all correct and self-evident.
But why does a man from Apple have to go to the fair and tell all this around?
Does the man want to stand out?
That is embarrassing.
 
Reminds me of other promises I’ve heard about “revolutionary” technology in the past. In the early 1970’s there was the first oil crisis. Companies started development of hydrogen powered cars: they were only 20 years away.

There was a price hike by OPEC several times in the very late 70’s and through the 80’s, and governments and companies wanted you to know that they were working on hydrogen powered cars: they were only 20 years away.

Today, for both environmental and economic reasons we have to reduce dependence on oil. Fortunately, car companies and governments are working on a brand new technology-the hydrogen powered car. It’s at most 20 years away.

But when you can buy your reliable and economically feasible hydrogen car you can wear your AR headset to get car and location information displayed and customized just for you. All this within the next 20 years.

I really don’t want to cynical but I too have heard this before. I feel these are 20 year cycles that repeat themselves. As a kid I probably caught the fag end of the AI cycle that died last.

The only difference that I feel is the computing power available today vs the 80s/90s. I still feel that a lot that is passed as AI are just good algorithms and in some cases just simple if conditions.

I am hopeful that I will see skynet if I live long enough. Another 20 years maybe.
 
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Yeah well, it shows things like HP (which aren’t real) and ammo. So I’d still say that it’s fair to question the usefulness of AR, at least as a persistent aspect of our lives.
The ability to put a CG Tyrannosaurus Rex on a basketball court alongside friends and family is technologically impressive. I just don’t know what I could do with that capacity after impressing a few friends and family members a couple of times.

I CAN think of things that AR might do that would be useful: driving directions (maybe just distance and turn arrows) that appear in your AR headset, maps that can take you right to an item you are searching for at a store, a measurement system that doesn’t require you to find a hard edged corner and works with measuring items, heights, or distances from millimeters to miles. Then there are the questionable uses, where the information may distract a person more than help such as a HUD display for a car. Yes, it helps fly planes and pilot ships but the people using it are trained and constantly evaluated, unlike someone using it to drive their own car.

Someone needs to pay for the infrastructure necessary for any of this to happen. Everyone thinks its neat until they hear the cost, and find out companies or governments want us to pay for it. Until someone comes up with a integrated system and not just isolated cool programs on a phone/computer then it’s just a really cool gimmick.
 
AR rumored for years to be next best thing. Yet the developers have not taken to this
Other than some games
Perhaps Apple needs to help
Them
 
AR rumored for years to be next best thing. Yet the developers have not taken to this
Other than some games
Perhaps Apple needs to help
Them

The biggest problem is that high speed internet is pretty much required for this to be useful and 80% of the physical land area in the US doesn’t have that. I’m not just talking about “Fly Over Country “ but even in rural areas of states like New York and California and most of the south. Same reason I don’t think self driving cars can be much more than a big city/ suburb possibility. Maybe some highways and interstates but especially in bad weather states I think that something that tells a car where it is on a snow packed road where there aren’t any good visuals means some type of smart device to tell the car where the road is.
 
If you’re having trouble imagining AR’s uses, gaming is actually the BEST place to look.

Gaming has used HUD interfaces for pretty much ever.

Because a HUD is so damn useful. LITERALLY game-changing.

A HUD for real life will change how we go through the world forever.
Sounds interesting but scary at the same time to be dependent on technology so much.

Imagine people feeling dumb or incapable because they forgot their glasses.
 
"We'll be working together with the blind and partially sighted communities to improve specifically on the people-detection side," added Allessandra McGinnis, Apple's senior product manager for AR, referring to potential accessibility features.

^ ^ This statement seems to refute the weird rumors that an Apple AR device wouldn't have a camera. Maybe not one that could take a photo, but it's got to have a camera.
Not a traditional camera. LiDAR. You didn’t think that was just for the iPad, did you?
 
Sounds interesting but scary at the same time to be dependent on technology so much.
Spend a day without your phone, a computer, or the Internet - it’ll give you a new perspective on “dependence on technology” (we’re already long past that point).
 
If you’re having trouble imagining AR’s uses, gaming is actually the BEST place to look.

Gaming has used HUD interfaces for pretty much ever.

Because a HUD is so damn useful. LITERALLY game-changing.

A HUD for real life will change how we go through the world forever.
If by HUD you mean information anchored to the viewer’s point of view, that’s not actually AR. That’s just a see through display. AR is information anchored to the world.
 
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A great example for AR use is ARAS (Augmented Reality Assisted Surgery) which has been in use for a few years for cardiovascular and other procedures.

I can easily think of a dozen other AR uses.
 
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If by HUD you mean information anchored to the viewer’s point of view, that’s not actually AR. That’s just a see through display. AR is information anchored to the world.
It can be both - information anchored in the corners of the display for various “complications” style things (time until next appt, etc.) as well as information anchored over/on items in the real world (FPS games commonly attach things like name and affiliation to players wherever they happen to appear on the screen). The stereotypical “directions done as lines/arrows on the ground” would be a good start, and the “putting names on people you know but haven‘t seen recently, say, at a work gathering” could be quite useful. Being able to say “where did I leave the remote” and get a blinking dot in the room would be good too. I think there have also been real-world uses like projecting parts diagrams over engines, for specific technical work.
 
Um, why am I the only one on the planet that can see as a killer app: Animated virtual assembly instructions. No more horribly made assembly instructions to follow. Just get closer to the virtual part and push "animate" to see how it comes together. Many of the needed 3d models are already sitting in the designers computers already, unused. Of course, the glasses will make for a much better, no hand held device, experience. Time to write the code for it now though.
 
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Um, why am I the only one on the planet that can see as a killer app: Animated virtual assembly instructions. No more horribly made assembly instructions to follow. Just get closer to the virtual part and push "animate" to see how it comes together. Many of the needed 3d models are already sitting in the designers computers already, unused. Of course, the glasses will make for a much better, no hand held device, experience. Time to write the code for it now though.
Move to my 3G rural area with 3.5 megabit download promised but seldom delivered by the local ISP and I'll show you.
 
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